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Hitchens 05-05-2013 11:06 AM

Rhambuk lives out in the boonies. You're creating a tempest in a teacup. Cat owners should keep their animals inside and follow the same laws dog owners have to. Cats can't be trained to respect property lines.

India 05-05-2013 11:09 AM

I'd suggest an evaluation, just for your peace of mind.

I have a german shepherd and he has been socialized and socialized and socialized... and one day while in puppy daycare, he turned on a dog and pinned him into a corner. He didn't draw blood, he didn't bite, but he was aggressive, he was determined and wouldn't let that dog move.

I took him to and we're working with a trainer. One of the nuggets of information he gave me was that at certain ages aggression in dogs can change and it's very possible it will escalate if left unchecked.

Rhambuk 05-05-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by India (Post 945810)
I'd suggest an evaluation, just for your peace of mind.

I have a german shepherd and he has been socialized and socialized and socialized... and one day while in puppy daycare, he turned on a dog and pinned him into a corner. He didn't draw blood, he didn't bite, but he was aggressive, he was determined and wouldn't let that dog move.

I took him to and we're working with a trainer. One of the nuggets of information he gave me was that at certain ages aggression in dogs can change and it's very possible it will escalate if left unchecked.

She has a lot of freedom, too much. When I'm around and it's me and her she knows how to behave 100% and she is always looking to me for affirmation.

But I'm not the only person, my father lets her go wild and it drives me NUTS but theres nothing i can do about it. This really has formed her behavior because when im around she knows what she can and cant do but when im not around she just goes wild and she knows there isnt going to be anyone disciplining her.

Thats just my fathers belief...his dog is about 75lbs overweight though and couldnt chase down a cat to save its life so it doesnt need a lot of training..

Thulack 05-05-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitchens (Post 945809)
Rhambuk lives out in the boonies. You're creating a tempest in a teacup. Cat owners should keep their animals inside and follow the same laws dog owners have to. Cats can't be trained to respect property lines.

When the last time a cat killed someone other then maybe getting in their feet walking down a flight of steps? While i think it could be a isolated incident IF it happens again your response will be what? You obviously don't care about cats so why not let the dog keep killing them? If you didnt care about one cat then why would you care about 2 or 3 or 4? This was relly all ment for Rham but saying that dogs and cats should follow same laws is funny.

Edit: I've grown up with cats and dogs as pets all my life and love them equally but when 1 animal attacks another something should be done. And no offense Rham but the same fiercness that you defend your dog people defend their cats. You be really pissed if your dog came home all fucked up from someone elses pet and you would do something about it right?

Rhambuk 05-05-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Thulack (Post 945813)
When the last time a cat killed someone other then maybe getting in their feet walking down a flight of steps? While i think it could be a isolated incident IF it happens again your response will be what? You obviously don't care about cats so why not let the dog keep killing them? If you didnt care about one cat then why would you care about 2 or 3 or 4? This was relly all ment for Rham but saying that dogs and cats should follow same laws is funny.

Edit: I've grown up with cats and dogs as pets all my life and love them equally but when 1 animal attacks another something should be done. And no offense Rham but the same fiercness that you defend your dog people defend their cats. You be really pissed if your dog came home all fucked up from someone elses pet and you would do something about it right?

Just because I don't like cats doesn't mean I want my dog going around killing every cat it finds, thats just fucked up dude really?

It's bad behavior whether its a cat or a squirrel or anything its not something I want her doing and it will only lead to future problems hence why I would like to stop it.

*edit due to your edit!*

Yeah I can understand that I would be pissed and you could bet I would do something about it just like I would expect any pet owner to come up to me in any situation. In this situation though my brother and his family decided to treat it like an isolated incident, its really a homestead family dog so its like if your dog kills your cat...

it was an upsetting situation for everyone, no one was happy this morning and weve all been tense trying to figure out what to do while she is leashed to a tree.

Hitchens 05-05-2013 11:23 AM

I didn't say dogs and cats should follow the same laws. I said cat owners should follow the same laws as dog owners. I can't let my dog run around and shit in everyone's yard, but some cat owners have no problem with this. It's crap. Keep your cats inside.

If your cat goes in someone else's yard and gets eaten it's your fault for being a crappy owner. That's why I keep mine inside. I'm not a crappy cat owner.

Nihilist_santa 05-05-2013 11:29 AM

Dont listen to these nanny state jerks Rhambuk, just because they let the state neuter their citizens in the UK doesn't mean it applies here.

Your dog acted pretty normal in my opinion. You live on a good chunk of land and the dog was probably just being territorial. The owner of the cat should have kept a closer on eye on where it was instead of letting it wander around. If your dog had not killed it a car or something else would have so I would not beat myself up over it.

I have a Pitt bull and a Brittany Spaniel both are sweet as can be but the Brittany Spaniel is a hunting dog and has been bred to kill and retrieve birds. Its cruel for me to get on to her for killing a bird and there is no way it could understand.

You people are ridiculous. Do you give your cats a lecture or have them put down when they kill a bird or mouse? My cat is a far worse killer than either dog.

Hitchens 05-05-2013 11:31 AM

Actually agree with Horrible Santa for once.

It happened on Rhambuk's property. The cat shouldn't have been there, it should have been in the owner's house, not out needlessly slaying wildlife for kicks and shitting in yards.

Thulack 05-05-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa (Post 945819)
Dont listen to these nanny state jerks Rhambuk, just because they let the state neuter their citizens in the UK doesn't mean it applies here.

Your dog acted pretty normal in my opinion. You live on a good chunk of land and the dog was probably just being territorial. The owner of the cat should have kept a closer on eye on where it was instead of letting it wander around. If your dog had not killed it a car or something else would have so I would not beat myself up over it.

I have a Pitt bull and a Brittany Spaniel both are sweet as can be but the Brittany Spaniel is a hunting dog and has been bred to kill and retrieve birds. Its cruel for me to get on to her for killing a bird and there is no way it could understand.

You people are ridiculous. Do you give your cats a lecture or have them put down when they kill a bird or mouse? My cat is a far worse killer than either dog.

If it was someone else's pet bird or Mouse then yes something would be done about it. I have had pet rats and pet cats at the same time and the cats never tried to eat the rats. they would just play. Hell most the time the cats would run from the rats.

Rhambuk 05-05-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa (Post 945819)
You people are ridiculous. Do you give your cats a lecture or have them put down when they kill a bird or mouse? My cat is a far worse killer than either dog.

Thanks, this made me chuckle as I was just thinking about how dogs are treated far more strictly and I think its because dogs can be taught.

You can train cats to do things use a litter box etc but I've never seen a cat come when you call its name or KNOW when its done wrong. A dog has this ability and I think we hold them to a higher standard because we know if trained properly a dog would know better than to kill a cat, where a cat doesnt know any better than killing mice and birds.

I'm sure this will bring a lot of hate from the cat lovers, but personally I've never seen a cat know when its done wrong and is going to be punished where a dog will cower in the corner the second you open the door if it knocked the trash down and it knows your going to scold it.


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