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Jimjam 02-27-2024 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cd288 (Post 3676592)
True, although I think a point OP was alluding to is depending on the type and location of the PH (i.e., static camp in an obscure area that spawns mobs totally unrelated to the quest mob), and spawn chance of the mob, there could've been a decent chance that no one would ever figure it out and that's a bit of bad design. In the case of this specific quest, better design probably would've been to increase the number of PHs to include more mobs that wander throughout LFay.

You weren't meant to figure it out - people were meant to wander about murderhoboing random mobs and that would eventually spawn the specific mobs other people would kill.

The way we do specific camps and kill no things besides those (so not 'accidently' kill phers for rares in open zones) is far from the expectations of how players would/should play.

magnetaress 02-27-2024 09:18 PM

Or did play.

I never camped a "named" in 1999 personally.

magnetaress 02-27-2024 09:20 PM

Getting shiny brass halbered was a totally accidental surprise and rly cool because all I figured was it was ex orcs with ringmail.

magnetaress 02-27-2024 09:20 PM

Exp* orcs*

Pulgasari 02-28-2024 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tnair (Post 3676645)
This was early days when they literally were guessing what an MMO player group would even do, and they were designing based on guesses and hopes. Not tryna argue that Brad was a genius playing 5 dimensional chess or anything. EQ1 is a mess. A beloved mess.

'Hunting' and then going back to town to recover and broker your treasure was the previous model of MMO before EQ.

roks1 02-28-2024 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by magnetaress (Post 3676465)
Holy tldrs batman. Read thread title. Saw multiple walls of text. Made this post.

Can we plz at least get a bullet point of the offensive quests plz. Like at a minimum. Example:
  • cleric epic - pearl shards in sky fire for days
  • wizard epic - fucking staffs lol
  • jboots - bottlenecks (both hasten and Aac ring)
  • soulfire - non pallies and long Lucan spawns
  • good militia tunic traitor guy - paladins killing Lucan the turn in mob

you wot m8?

Cleric epic -- sit in nagafen's lair with your guild to make sure no one else ganked your ragefire spawn / turn in
jboots -- ks contest for pyzjyn
soulfire -- soulfire was just a paladin thing that was cool, there wasn't exactly hordes of paladins running around when that quest dropped, paladins capable of doing soulfire were the bottleneck , not lucan

wizard epic yeah i guess, except, instead of the golem turn in in Fear, you had to get a ultra hyper rare drop from cazic thule himself, skin of cazic thule.

roks1 02-28-2024 04:14 PM

just for entertainment purposes, the wizard epic drop from cazic!

https://legacyofsteel.net/archive/2001-01-17

magnetaress 02-29-2024 04:26 AM

Never said my bullet points waz gud

Thx for contributing ur own tho!

Jimjam 02-29-2024 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by magnetaress (Post 3676911)
Never said my bullet points waz gud

Thx for contributing ur own tho!

Idk if they knew about the iteration of cleric epic to which you referred.

roks1 02-29-2024 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by magnetaress (Post 3676911)
Never said my bullet points waz gud

Thx for contributing ur own tho!

I am more than happy to contribute my patch to your notes :^)


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