Lol ok can you stop trolling and at least admit instant engages are more fun?

Sending in bumps to hold it, burning wort potions to stay alive, kiters training away adds etc...come on why wouldn't you wanna do that?

I agree it's fun to instant engage, it's nothing new tho. That's more my point. We instant engaged this whole ass time. We are in farm section of the game tho, there's nothing wrong with that. I think the constant use of the word competition is the issue. You are farming. You may make it a competition of the farming. You are still farming tho.

Ok fine, I love competitive farming then, are you happy now Mr? :p

Sure but your type of fun doesn’t mean you should gatekeep others. Some folks don’t need the instant engages to get their rocks off. Just because they want to play that way isn’t stopping you from doing you. If you lost 6 weeks a year and this somehow tormented you, consider logging off. Hope that helps.

Ya but every single other server is already that play style...why don't they just go to servers where they already do rotations instead of trying to ruin the last free for all server left?

No one is gate keeping, they could go after the mob too...they are the ones trying to gatekeep and saying we aren't allowed to instant engage because they can't do it...tlp and takp are perfect for that player base.. everyone gets a trophy on those servers /nod.

6 weeks now, how long till it's 8, then 10. How many splinter guilds are going to show up for a spot in the draft? It's going to end up like the class rotation with a billion alt guilds standing in line waiting for their hand out.

Imagine taking part in class R for years then whining it might goto class R, you had a chance to leave and goto class C and you chose not too.

Players who autofire, file alter, and script. Doing so delegitimizes loot that might be obtained otherwise. It also undercuts what motivation rule-abiding players might have in a competitive environment. Also, training has been pretty effective at stopping players from getting the toys they want.

Establish that little to no cheating is taking place and that those who disregard the rules/deny culpability are appropriately punished in a timely manner so that 46+ content is an equal playing field, otherwise all claims of welfare are meaningless.

The same argument could be made against those already mentioned, players who have made raiding a farce, all in the name of competition, thanks to their willingness to make use of every advantage out there, rules be damned.

Speaking generally, competition does feel better overall compared to roll/rotations, because having to compete imbues all of the sought-after items with memorable stories. So when the player is standing staring at a wall looking over their inventory, it isn't just a sheet of stats but a more personal collage of encounters. That said, when the competitive memories connected to those items are all terrible and make any sane person question why they even log on, roll/rotations are without question superior.

Telling people to goto another server If they don’t like it, do ya tell people to goto their country if they don’t like it too? Relax toxigen

Also, it isn't exactly competitive if total wipes are averted thanks to alt armies. Have more self-imposed restrictions and remove that safety net for greater risk versus reward.

Is the classic experience having 40 some bots on accounts that dont cost 15$ a month? Or being able to make every single one of your chars on a separate account for free to be shared amongst your cohorts?

Signed,
one of the people benefitting from winning because of it