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arcanebrain 09-01-2012 11:36 PM

I like you.

Kraftwerk 09-01-2012 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkingturtle (Post 717870)
I don't think it's ever really the right thing to get a boner because someone has cancer.

Your posts make me laugh out loud frequently.

Also, I swear I read something about arguing on the internet somewhere...

Lucky 09-02-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by arcanebrain (Post 717886)
You know, thank our holy lord and savior Jesus Christ that America is not a socialist country. It would just be terrible if we were all well-off, happy, and lived long productive lives! I much prefer our current situation where the poor can go fuck themselves and the rich just get richer by shitting on everyone below them and making fistfuls of cash by engaging in ridiculous money voodoo.

America is a communist country bro

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=53515&

Maddox 09-02-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ephirith (Post 717903)
This is a worldview that is obsessed with rational 'self-interest'. Charity is NOT a tenant of libertarianism, it is a footnote that they only allow because it's not managed by the government.

1) I'm not libertarian but your wrong. It's different to respect freedom of choice and personal responsibility than it is to be obsessed with self-interest, you need to understand the difference. 2) Everyone is concerned with self-interest and self-improvement. You can make claims that you are an entirely selfless being that cares about nothing other than your fellow man but that's disingenuous. 3) Charity is part of conservatism and libertarianism, I understand your opinion but you are generalizing and are wrong.

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Originally Posted by Ephirith (Post 717903)
If the government is so terrible then why not work on making it more efficient instead of just scrapping the whole thing?

Not wanting a historically inefficient and spending happy government to control my healthcare is different than not wanting a government at all. I believe that I can make better decisions about my healthcare than a bureaucrat can.

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Originally Posted by Ephirith (Post 717903)
other stuff

The other parts of your post were essentially drivel. Your analysis of a free market / capitalist economy is willfully ignorant of reality. (or you just really don't understand the libertarian position) Different strokes for different folks I suppose. Go read a little bit about what libertarians stand for (not from your liberal blog analysis but from actual libertarians) and then engage in conversation. Half of the things you said were actually pro-libertarian.

Good luck with the hemorrhoids, based on your worldview I guess you should blame the wealthy people for them.

mgellan 09-02-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 717847)
If he was in Canada he'd be in a lottery for his death panel

If he was in Canada he would be receiving world class care at one of our many CancerCare Hospitals at no cost to him - get your head out of your ass, must be dark up there.

Regards,
Mg

Maddox 09-02-2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mgellan (Post 717969)
If he was in Canada ... world class care

hahaha

Ephirith 09-02-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Maddox (Post 717965)
blah blah blah u wrong, u ignorant, fuck you and your cat ephirith

Well I simply disagree with your perception of the facts, clearly no use telling you you're wrong again so I'm just gonna insult you and ramble.

I've shown an instance of an objectivist eating the reality behind his own ideology, simple as that. Cancer treatments can cost several hundred thousand dollars, last I checked he had like 700 likes on his facebook thing and even if every one of them gave $50 that's only $35k. He will not get treatment, and he is going to die.

Everything objectivism stands for says, "Damn Joshua if you wanted medical treatment you should have worked harder and made more money, or gotten yourself a job with better benefits.", and that's the system you and the other randroids want to achieve. That, instead of a system that encourages the general well-being of fellow human beings. Oh shit, some lazy ass deadbeat welfare queen might get some health treatment. But how many deserving individuals like Joshua would also get treatment they otherwise wouldn't have had?

The difference between us is you think people are shit unless they prove themselves in the free market. You think only the strong deserve happy lives, you want to leave humanity to a primal and natural order. I think it's more complicated than that.

And I'm not a liberal, I'm a spectral syncretic. And no, not all fascism involves racial purity, genocide, marshal law, corruption, or autocracy.

Lucky 09-02-2012 01:58 AM

Canadian health care fucking sucks keep it in your own socialist shithole

You aint even got nukes...even France and Iran got nukes. world class health care lol ur bad at basic sceince

arcanebrain 09-02-2012 02:30 AM

You're a terrible troll.

Maddox 09-02-2012 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ephirith (Post 717976)
... I'm a spectral syncretic, a.k.a. fascism

This conversation makes more sense now... Thanks and good luck.


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