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Albane 03-05-2012 03:00 PM

Ninja Looting Raid boss mobs on VZ and TZ always resulted in the player being suspended and the item being given to the guild leader to hand out. This happened a couple times on VZ and it took a week or so to be resolved, but it was resolved.

On this server, Ninja Looters will just re-roll after doing it a few times, especially with the faster leveling rate.

This is something the GM's should get involved in, if it is a raid boss.

oldfish 03-05-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Albane (Post 579526)
Ninja Looting Raid boss mobs on VZ and TZ always resulted in the player being suspended and the item being given to the guild leader to hand out. This happened a couple times on VZ and it took a week or so to be resolved, but it was resolved.

On this server, Ninja Looters will just re-roll after doing it a few times, especially with the faster leveling rate.

This is something the GM's should get involved in, if it is a raid boss.

Come on... leveling is not that fast, and i dont think after doing it even once on a raid mob he will be able to get another raid group again.

oldfish 03-05-2012 03:11 PM

Also, this:

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Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 579492)
The thing with ninja looting is, what is ninja looting, and what is PVP? If Guild A is dumb enough to leave items on raid mobs and we come in and PVP them out and take the loot is this ninja looting or the spoils of war? If an agreement is not made on loot or there is a dispute, who is right, who is wrong? Is need before greed the default loot policy? Is roll the default? What if someone wants something defaulted but is silent on something else, if item a is defaulted to player a should item b be defaulted to player b? Anything other than blatant ninja looting (everyone agrees roll on loot, player loses and ninjas) seems incredibly grey area to me and likely to just result in a waste of GM resources.
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I am assuming this is perfectly legal but i dont know anymore what i should assume.

What heartbrand underlines here, is why i think GMing should be a mostly hands off approach as much as possible, especially on a pvp server.

The minecraft pvp server im playing has a line about this: "If you can do it, its legal". Of course in EQ theres quit a bit more exploiting to be done than in minecraft, but beside straight up exploits like standing where a raid mob cannot damage you, I think this is a line GMs should live by on red99.

I think the sooner the rules about red are posted the better, so we can debate what works and what doesnt.

Harrison 03-05-2012 03:16 PM

Social consequences, just like the ones cheaters get, right?

oldfish 03-05-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Harrison (Post 579537)
Social consequences, just like the ones cheaters get, right?

Why isnt this troll banned from the forums already? He keeps repeating the same fucking thing over and over and over in every thread.

William Henry Harrison 03-05-2012 03:27 PM

just report him outside of rnf in every thread he posts in and they'll do something

Chett 03-05-2012 03:33 PM

Would like to buy Red99 NoRulezServer.

Harrison 03-05-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oldfish (Post 579555)
Why isnt this troll banned from the forums already? He keeps repeating the same fucking thing over and over and over in every thread.

Answer my question. What social repercussions have occurred? They are entire guilds. There are rules for a reason. You retards are incapable of policing yourselves. You just want free reign, not vigilante justice. You're not fooling anyone.

oldfish 03-05-2012 03:39 PM

And back on ignore he goes

William Henry Harrison 03-05-2012 03:39 PM

reported for flaming outside rnf


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