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Toxigen 05-02-2024 09:22 AM

but they dindu nuffin they good boys

cd288 05-02-2024 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pulgasari (Post 3683093)
Quitting the field for the evening to await the inevitable cd288 post.

On the morrow. :p

This made me laugh

Pulgasari 05-02-2024 12:14 PM

This was a bad analogy as it turns out there's a rule against forum crime.

Toxigen 05-02-2024 01:51 PM

macequest

TheIrateTurk 05-02-2024 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3683087)
in the few bastions of common sense IRL, things are
there used to be hordes of people saying that strict drug laws create drug addicts, "somehow"

now we have rock solid data to point at when we tell those morons to STFU in the future.

Portugal etc.

cd288 05-02-2024 03:27 PM

Yup. Or Portland I think was another example. What we learned is there needs to be a middle ground. There need to be laws and enforcement, but not so strict that an addict feels like they can't even seek assistance or help (whether to quit or in an actual emergency).

TheIrateTurk 05-02-2024 03:36 PM

I don't think I'd cite Portland as an example of a successful city, but sure

Pulgasari 05-02-2024 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheIrateTurk (Post 3683157)
Portugal etc.

Most of the claims being made for the ‘success of Portugal’s decriminalisation of all types of drug use are false claims.

Quote:


Decriminalisation has increased drug use for all age-groups

Decriminalisation has seen sharp increases amongst high-school students

Portugal’s drug use, other than for heroin, was initially lower than European
averages

It is not clear what caused major decreases in opiate use before decriminalisation,
but opiate use was in fact declining before decriminalisation

While drug deaths in Portugal are much lower in Portugal due to heroin being
smoked or snorted rather than injected, drug overdose mortality is currently
increasing

HIV decreases are mostly not due to decriminalisation

Other countries have proven interventions which have markedly reduced drug use,
with coerced or mandatory rehab acceptable to their populations

Australia’s Tough on Drugs shows a far superior success to Portugal
A newly released national survey suggests the percent of adults who have used illicit drugs increased to 12.8 percent in 2022, up from 7.8 in 2001, though still below European averages.

Pulgasari 05-02-2024 11:44 PM

If anything, I would credit Portugal's drug addiction successes compared to the rest of Europe to their possession of a Living King

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...2516d6d190.jpg

TheIrateTurk 05-03-2024 07:13 AM

Rat park, etc.


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