Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception (Post 3011846)

Tldr is charisma, charisma, charisma.

Originally Posted by Bazia (Post 3011869)

charisma is super important, have a high elf cleric lull for you then compare it to a dwarves success rate

you'll get the picture quick

Originally Posted by Uuruk (Post 3011860)

same for clerics?

Originally Posted by A1551 (Post 3011778)

First, as mentioned the thread on lull line and critical resist chance and charisma -- the effect was really quite large. As the thread went on I did more iterations of the test which were all very consistent.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=327383

Second, back to CHA and charm breaks, I know other posters have done REALLY GOOD, pretty much "take it to the bank" quality research over the years on CHA and charm durations, and I remeber reading them here, but I don't remeber the poster names now, or when I read them, but they're here somewhere if you're really curious and at a high level they found that CHA does in fact extend charm duration. I wanted to mention that because my testing was ok but had some flaws and is also like a zillion years old, but is posted in the thread below. It also found CHA noticably extended charm duration. It is buried inside another thread which makes it hard to find.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...9&postcount=52


Finally, for what it is worth, having done a chanter to 60 on blue and now doing another on green I dumped my points into CHA without a second thought. Especially kunark+ mana isn't really a problem for us, but lull criticals, charm breaks, etc always are. I can remember many corpse runs where I had to lull my way around 20 mobs naked and always wished I had dumped my starting points on Propo version I into CHA!

Originally Posted by strawman (Post 3011714)

This is a pretty good argument in favor of charisma. Thanks!