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Izmael 10-16-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Baler (Post 2987283)
log parsers are classic
voice communication is classic

Im sorry you didnt know OP

I'm not saying log parsers or voice communication should be disabled. I'm saying GINA should be disabled.

Reading basic english is hard.

Donkey Hotay 10-16-2019 04:07 PM

I wonder if GINA had a normie interface, would the demands for its banning from sub-90 IQ types drop dramatically?

drackgon 10-16-2019 04:11 PM

Oh wow, thats interesting. Why should it matter then to block it.. If you don't want it don't use it.

Baler 10-16-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by drackgon (Post 2987347)
If you don't want it don't use it.

This

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Originally Posted by Izmael (Post 2987336)
I'm not saying log parsers or voice communication should be disabled. I'm saying GINA should be disabled.
Reading basic english is hard.

Reading basic dates is hard.
did we make any progress with childish comments? nope.

Doesn't change the fact that people were running log parsers as early as the log file was a thing. Nerds were crafty even back in the day. I have to imagine the early log parsers were build from database parsers.

So it's reworked and upgraded. By your logic we should be running 56k internet on single core PCs. it just wont happen. Also if P99 had a way to detect Gina it would open a huge security concern in the community.

drackgon 10-16-2019 04:17 PM

I would have to agree with Baler here. Green is here to be fun.. were not reliving 1999. With 56k(AoL Cds) and crappy Windows 95 computers. Be happy with what you can manage. Don't use this as I won't either bc meh I can't play 15 hours a day where this would help me. But I won;t be mad at the people who use it. What brings them fun should be the Key element that will keep people playing. Aka more people = generally more people to have Fun with.

Borak 10-16-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by branamil (Post 2987272)
Remove gina, ban resolutions above 640x480. Limit bandwidth to 24.4 kbps. No more than 2 mouse buttons allowed. Only 8 hotkeys allowed. Welcome to flavor country.

Yo, I had 128k ISDN back in 1997, it was awesome for Quake and Quake 2 years before EQ came out. I don't want to hear about the plebes who had to suffer with 28k.

Izmael 10-16-2019 04:28 PM

Buff timers have been removed for a reason - to make things more classic-compatible. GINA brings buff timers back, and then some. I fail to see the need to argue here.

Now, of course, disabling logs altogether would be a very poor solution to the problem. Logs are good, logs are classic, and as someone mentionned, 20 years from now when people will attempt to make a p99 emulator, today's logs will be invaluable.

But GINA takes away a significant part of what makes EQ - EQ: timing spawns, buffs and closely watching for messages such as "you feel like you're about to appear". That's not coo !

Sonark 10-16-2019 04:38 PM

Always found GINA to be a weird crutch.

Never used it on Live, even when raiding, because if you're observant, you don't need it.

Though I can see the utility here, with the lack of buff timers. That's such a crap thing.

Baler 10-16-2019 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izmael (Post 2987370)
Buff timers have been removed for a reason - to make things more classic-compatible.

This is not a quest you can win

https://i.imgur.com/me0bzTg.jpg

Chortles Snort|eS 10-16-2019 04:40 PM

HEAL NOW
YOU HAS AGGRO
BUFFS FADED
ALERT ALERT
NO CLASSIC


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