That's pretty bad trolling Swish. 1 in 9 with lockout timers. Come on now.

double standards, and turn on "victim mode" when it suits... same old record lol

Nope, and that's the stupid thing about the "reformed BDA backed rotation", you were locked out of the next 2 Class R dragons (of each name) you killed.

So we had

Trakanon 1: BDA
Trakanon 2: Taken
Trakanon 3: whoever could get it - Divinity, Europa, Omni, whoever.

(and yes, there were R-FFA dragons on top of that, but nice to be guaranteed pixels eh?)

Are we pretending that wasn't the case? Add in BDA saying that Divinity were the first to stop following the rotation (thereby seeming innocent and "sorry guys, we tried so hard") and you've got yourself some server history.

That's why there aren't rotations like that anymore... doesn't take long for a zerg guild to get greedy.

RIP Moonlight Crusaders, Supremacy...etc

You're forgetting that there was an FFA and Class C Kunark dragon before getting back to R again.

I'm not trolling - those were the facts, and it wasn't just TMO. Every raid blocked epic before the Class system was several hundred thousand plat (depending on rarity) to MQ from those guilds - and they always had extra Soul Leaches, VS stones, etc laying around.

oh sure, but within that tier? guaranteed pixels for the casually hardcore.

BDA certainly had the mentality of a Class C guild at the time, but they didn't want to "step up".

They did see Tito Ortiz across a room in Vegas though, so we should probably get on their level.

Why would anyone want to "step up" into Class C? It was a shitshow then and still is.

Most of the people in the two hardcore guilds active right now hate the lengths they have to go to to get pixels. But the arms race must continue.

Swish was just sharing facts as well. Like when your guild blocked access to as many of those epics as you could, to be fair you were limited, during the time frame when they became more available. Not sure why you're being defensive. I'm proud of what my guild accomplished. Why aren't you?

Better to sit in the casual tier precamping 40 people for the "casual guilds only" FFA dragons, you're right.

There's a difference. If BDA got all the epic items we needed from a target, we would STOP killing it and switch our focus to something else. Like Golems in Fear - we don't really focus on those anymore now that most our Necros and SKs finally finished epics they had been working on for 2-4 years. BDA wasn't blocking access to anything in that 2-3 months leading up to Velious, we were trying to finish epics, not hoard MQ pieces to sell.

The TMO/IB/FEs of the world never did that before or after the Class system. There was literally a "But A-Team will get epics" meme floating around - they really didn't want the casual gets to get free epics, they wanted them to PAY for them.