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radditsu 09-12-2014 05:03 PM

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Champion_Standing 09-12-2014 05:22 PM

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KagatobLuvsAnimu 09-12-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday (Post 1613090)
Thread titled, Was he black?

so what your saying is that the media didn't say what his ethnicity was, and you demand to know... yet they have an obsession with race?

My reading comprehension is abhorrent as usual, so I'm just trying to understand what kinda weird shit u mean, when you say the weird shit u do.

If it turns out the person that he threatened was black then it will do two things, it will be evidence that he may in fact have racist tendencies and it would also prove that the media is steering away from making a national issue when something that happens to everyone, every day, happens to someone of color.

On the other hand if it turns out that the person he threatened was white then it will be more evidence that GZ's violent tendencies are not racially motivated and the media only cares about race when someone is black so they can paint aggressors/criminals as racists on top of the actions already committed.

Am I being clear?

katrik 09-12-2014 05:57 PM

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iruinedyourday 09-12-2014 06:00 PM

Just to try to debate with you like a person, isn't it plausible that he may threaten whites and blacks or anyone else, girl friends, girlfriends family, because he's fucking nuts... but that day in 2012 he chose to racially profile someone because they were black? And even further, isn't it plausible that racial profiling exists in all of us in varying degree's?

And to develop that thought a little bit further, a lot of the people who might have been upset about a black boy being murdered were upset because the racial profiling happens all to often and it sucks and we should at least admit it is an issue and we should not try to pretend like we live in fucking utopia where everyone is all fucking holding hands and perfect, when we obviously don't since we cant even agree on what type of phone murders less people?

KagatobLuvsAnimu 09-12-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday (Post 1613169)
Just to try to debate with you like a person, isn't it plausible that he may threaten whites and blacks or anyone else, girl friends, girlfriends family, because he's fucking nuts... but that day in 2012 he chose to racially profile someone because they were black? And even further, isn't it plausible that racial profiling exists in all of us in varying degree's?

And to develop that thought a little bit further, a lot of the people who might have been upset about a black boy being murdered were upset because the racial profiling happens all to often and it sucks and we should at least admit it is an issue and we should not try to pretend like we live in fucking utopia where everyone is all fucking holding hands and perfect, when we obviously don't since we cant even agree on what type of phone murders less people?

That's the thing though, it always comes down to race with the media. He wasn't profiled because he was black, he was profiled because of his behavior and probably because he was wearing the hoodie. What you feel about criminal profiling, whether you think it's good or bad doesn't change the fact that it's comparing apples to oranges when you try to turn it into racial profiling.

iruinedyourday 09-12-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu (Post 1613193)
THe wasn't profiled because he was black, he was profiled because of his behavior and probably because he was wearing the hoodie

I disagree, I think GZ profiled him because Trayvon Martin was black.

and even if he didn't, the result of what happened was, just another black murdered because someone thought he was a criminal.

and that shit makes people upset because it happens all the time

because everyone's got a little racism in them.

That last bit is the issue that is the problem and more importantly the subject that you want to discuss. People seem to think that there is no such thing as racism and it never plays a part in anything. So, people argue, it turns into this big click fest on the internet, and everyone makes a ton of money from advertising. So the media pushes the issue and tries to throw gas on the fire.

KagatobLuvsAnimu 09-12-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday (Post 1613222)
I disagree, I think GZ profiled him because Trayvon Martin was black.

You are entitled to that belief, in my view you are ignoring the evidence that it was rainy out during the early evening, Trayvon was wearing a hoodie and GZ saw him from inside of his car. If you want to imply that GZ assumed Trayvon was black and that's why he profiled him that's one thing, but to imply that he knew Trayvon was black and that's the reason he did what he did was another thing entirely.
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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday (Post 1613222)
and even if he didn't, the result of what happened was, just another black murdered because someone thought he was a criminal.

and that shit makes people upset because it happens all the time

because everyone's got a little racism in them.

I still think you are concentrating on a small part of a bigger problem. Look at what I'm responding to right here, replace 'another black' with 'another poor person' and replace 'racism' with 'classism' and you're addressing the source of the problem.

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday (Post 1613222)
That last bit is the issue that is the problem and more importantly the subject that you want to discuss. People seem to think that there is no such thing as racism and it never plays a part in anything. So, people argue, it turns into this big click fest on the internet, and everyone makes a ton of money from advertising. So the media pushes the issue and tries to throw gas on the fire.

Having an open mind and not immediately jumping to the conclusion that an altercation was motivated by race is not the same as "thinking that there is no such thing as racism and it never plays a part in anything". This is the kind of thing that makes you sound like the SJWs that keep ruining everything they are fighting for. I know that you don't want to be that guy and that is why I'm trying to explain to you the dangerous ground that you are treading upon.

Champion_Standing 09-12-2014 07:25 PM

Obama lied, Trayvon died

iruinedyourday 09-12-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu (Post 1613236)
Having an open mind and not immediately jumping to the conclusion that an altercation was motivated by race is not the same as "thinking that there is no such thing as racism and it never plays a part in anything"

At this point, after everything that has happened, if you don't admit right away that race was probubly the issue, but lets find out in court what really happened, you are being disrespectful to a bunch of people that know from first hand experiance that it was the mother fucking issue.

cus everymothafuckn time it is.

SWJ or White Knight, whatever you want to call me, dont change the fact that bad cops, are always also racist assholes.


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