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Aandolaf 08-08-2010 11:52 PM

The thought of playing in the revamped zones makes me cringe.

Malrubius 08-08-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aandolaf (Post 112969)
The thought of playing in the revamped zones makes me cringe.

I actually use the term "devamped" to refer to those zones.

BuzWeaver 08-09-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeatee (Post 112943)
its not even going to be something you did 10 years ago, it has the current models, current client, current exp rates, everything about it is current eq, you are just stuck to the original 3 continents, this server will be a far cry from classic.

Most likely it will be very similar if not exactly like the previous progression server. I'm not sure if you'd even have the old world 'original drops such as the Mana Stone or Guise of the Deceiver. At least I don't recall the previous progression having it.

I do remember that within two to three weeks people had already managed to make Misty Thicket Picnic Baskets and Qeynos Afternoon Tea. The Stats on both of these items rival anything that would drop even from the Planes and or Kunark (they were being sold for as little as 1sp per item or 2gold a stack).

Personally I'm not in any hurry to start again. P99 has what most of the old school players are really looking for. In the mean time I'll keep an eye on Everquest Next.

BuzWeaver 08-09-2010 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Auvdar (Post 112968)
I'm no code monkey, but really? Second week of JANUARY Sony? How hard can it really be to re-release the old progression servers and just add a time-lock? Since you know that's all its going to be. A rehash. There will still be the new zones, new exp rates, new spells, new graphics, etc etc.

Especially right now since this is the down time era in the MMO world. Honestly Sony, way to ruin a great game. I hope someone from Sony reads these boards, because the way they run a company is just retarded. They have a golden chance right now to rake in some good cash, but they want to put it off till January? Isn't that when people will be playing the new WoW expansion? Good call!

The new EQ Expansion and EQII F2P are coming out so they don't want to turn people's attention away from that just yet.

Reiker 08-09-2010 09:00 AM

We've had this thread before. I don't know why people confuse "progression" and "classic;" they're too completely different types of servers.

Progression in the original incarnation was like a "raider challenge" server - the entire ruleset was designed for competition among raiding guilds. The pace of the server in ways made raiding more fun than it was when the content was current. After a year Phinigel's not a blip on anyone's radar, but when you have 30 days to get your epic Phinny pieces before epics are released, some really crazy shit occurs in Kedge. And that's just one example. The chaos that occurs when you condense the expansions so much is very entertaining.

And as it ended up, the raiders loved prog (since this news my AIM has been blowing up with people trying to reconnect for this server), the casuals usually ended up bitching and talking about how the server was such a "failure" after playing for 6 months and dropping $90 on it.

There was a lot of shit that sucked about prog like the revamped zones, zones that were released too early, out of era loot, etc. Again, this affected the casuals more than the raiders as it was really easy to get awesome loot ie. worn haste from Greigs, but if you had raid gear this stuff wasn't very important (besides stuff like the required level 60 ranged item that I used from Kunark and never upgraded until GoD and that was more like a sidegrade). There was a thread started by a dev to collect a list of everything that shouldn't have been in prog and that was pretty complete. The only thing that could really ruin this server is if defiant armor is kept in; that stuff really can't be upgraded until Qvic+.

Some people will like it, others will hate it, thousands will play it. But to say "Progression sucks because it's not classic" is like saying EQ sucks because you don't like its PVP. Totally irrelevant.

guineapig 08-09-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BuzWeaver (Post 113063)

I do remember that within two to three weeks people had already managed to make Misty Thicket Picnic Baskets and Qeynos Afternoon Tea. The Stats on both of these items rival anything that would drop even from the Planes and or Kunark (they were being sold for as little as 1sp per item or 2gold a stack).

This right here.

SoE will not do it right. The mobs, the drops the non-classic quests. Just watch, they will all be in there.

For the most part they will just lock zones. Don't think for a second they have a development team re-coding the entire game for this niche server.

sleepingwolf 08-09-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Charms (Post 112947)
On their "checklist" they tell that almost everything's nearly done, but seems as though they have even more drama than p99, without a running server. I just brought it up because Sony did try to bury them in legal work, and got nothing out of it.

Either way, yeah, Sony would fuck up a "timed progression" server. You know one or two guilds will get to the caps within a couple weeks, and be bitching and moaning about how the other people, enjoying their gameplay, are holding back the "hardcores" from progression. I can't see it lasting more than a year before SOE buckles and speeds up progression on it.

Not even a year, the last time they did progression servers I resubbed and it was only a month or two before they took the time lock off.

Ripcord 08-09-2010 12:53 PM

I got the first phinny killshot on combine and as a monk no less! Even with all the messed up shit that shouldn't be there, all the guilds had the same uneven playground. It was fun for a while to see who could accomplish stuff first using anything and everything available. It was felt like a comic book cross over where aliens with laserguns invade king arthurs castle but batman appears and saves the day. Good for a few week side project but I'm not gonna leave p99 over it.

Eternal-Elf 08-10-2010 06:02 AM

I personally think it sounds great.

Rogean 08-10-2010 06:20 AM

I was in vegas for 7 days overlapping fanfaire and poked in there a few times. Through some connections I got to meet smedley face to face. Hes not interested in trying to do anything to us, as long as we don't charge / profit.

Notice I said trying.. because even if they did decide to, we really don't do anything illegal to begin with (Intellectual Property is only illegal to profit from).


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