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Ella`Ella 12-30-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yinikren (Post 1245888)
This isn't a bad idea, though this system is still overly confusing.

What are you confused over? Even Shinko was able to understand this.

zanderklocke 12-30-2013 08:11 PM

Can people do Juggs as an exp group?

Also, will guild council ever increase to include other guilds such as A-Team, Europa, Azure Guard, Knights who say Ni, or even Lord Bob?

Nlaar 12-30-2013 08:12 PM

I like the divinity proposal better...

Ella`Ella 12-30-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanderklocke (Post 1245893)
Can people do Juggs as an exp group?

Also, will guild council ever increase to include other guilds such as A-Team, Europa, Azure Guard, Knights who say Ni, or even Lord Bob?

If they became a significant raid presence, they would gain representation.

Thulack 12-30-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 (Post 1245881)
I'd suggest removing Fay/Sev/Inny from priority target list.

The big 3 can always get green scales from Hosh, Fay is one of those easy dragons that would allow smaller guilds to compete for them (lvl55).
Inny eh....I guess mage staffs... but they are too rare to count on.

Once in my Life i agree with Alarti.

August 12-30-2013 08:13 PM

Some clarification.

no poopsocking - you are basically saying no poop socking but people are still allowed to camp alt armies in the zone waiting for pops? (which seems an awful lot like poopsocking but being able to play your alts while you wait)

Cat A & Cat B - Are Cat B guilds allowed to mobilize during the majority of the time (3/4) that Cat A guilds have claimed their prioritized mobs?

Rotations - how do the Category A guilds plan on sharing mobs? The same way they have in the past? Is not the majority of the 'upset' people FE/IB complaining that TMO gets the mobs? How are we rectifying the tension between Category A guilds?

Switching categories - Is the 40% requirement only on priority raid targets? Or is it deprioritizied as well? Seems like an extremely stiff requirement to begin with, but if they have to compete with the uberguilds for that percentage it seems impossible.

Category A - you state 20% is required. You realize that this means that, more than likely, only 3 guilds can stay category A at any one time? This agreement pretty much says 'We three guilds get the majority of the good mobs forever" 4 guilds means that for everyone to stay in you'd all have to be at 25%. There aren't enough targets out there for 1% granularity in these measurements. That's an incredible balancing act. At 5 guilds you'd all have to be spot on the money, which is never going to happen. Seems like this is catered towards the big 3.

Nice attempt, just think that the numbers need to be adjusted. Current implementation locks the server into a top-3 mentality with an extremely stiff climb to make it a top 4. Once in top 4, it is almost necessity that someone gets ejected. Replacement effects are nice, but with the ability to poopsock via alts I just don't see anything really changing here besides casuals getting thrown a bone 1 week a month.

Banditfist 12-30-2013 08:16 PM

and RnF forums are deleted?

Vandy 12-30-2013 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella (Post 1245853)
Any guild that is VP capable (makes an attempt at a dragon in VP) will be considered Category A for 90 days.



So an attempt? this seems to block guilds from event wanting to TRY VP. Why not a successful kill would move you into this category instead of just an attempt?

Autotune 12-30-2013 08:16 PM

So basically things only change during the first 7 days for the other guilds and the normal raid guilds will agree to not poopsock (something that should have been done long ago).

Non-Priority targets aren't focus'd ever on repops.

I don't see much of a change, but for 7 days a month.

I also don't see this helping into velious.

Ella`Ella 12-30-2013 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandy (Post 1245905)
So an attempt? this seems to block guilds from event wanting to TRY VP. Why not a successful kill would move you into this category instead of just an attempt?

If you have the force to mobilize into VP and make an attempt, don't you think you're in a different category than people fawning for Draco?


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