Project 1999

Project 1999 (/forums/index.php)
-   Blue Server Chat (/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17)
-   -   "Who gives a %#$" - EQ devs on Bard NPCs, 1999 (/forums/showthread.php?t=112371)

Rhaj 06-18-2013 09:02 PM

Do you think other NPC mobs would bitch about NPC bards hogging all the PC spawns?

Sadre Spinegnawer 06-18-2013 09:44 PM

well, it is a rather large gap in the lore and immersion aspect. The Maestro should be a bard. I always thought it was pretty lame he wasn't.

porigromus 06-18-2013 11:13 PM

And "twisting" songs does not ruin your immersion? I think it's ridiculous that they never fixed the issue, that being single songs being too weak rather than allow people to continue to "sing" all songs at once (Imagine how that would sound?).

If bards were ever customized on this server, I for one would hope twisting wouldn't exist anymore and all songs would get a boost as well as bard's melee dps.

citizen1080 06-18-2013 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmas (Post 998751)
Bard raid mob fight, how would that go?

1. Mob Highsuns maintank
2. Mob AoE Mezzes raid
3. Mob charms rogues and turns them on clerics
4. Mob AoE DoTs
5. Mob DAs at low health to return to full with Dragon Regen
6. Mob runs away at Selos speed.
7. Mob cures itself of DoTs.
7. Mob hospitalized for carpal tunnel.

I giggled

Vexenu 06-19-2013 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porigromus (Post 999201)
And "twisting" songs does not ruin your immersion? I think it's ridiculous that they never fixed the issue, that being single songs being too weak rather than allow people to continue to "sing" all songs at once (Imagine how that would sound?).

If bards were ever customized on this server, I for one would hope twisting wouldn't exist anymore and all songs would get a boost as well as bard's melee dps.

Behold, the Bard!

http://kevinoliver.files.wordpress.c...52_352x470.jpg

t0lkien 06-19-2013 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porigromus (Post 999201)
And "twisting" songs does not ruin your immersion? I think it's ridiculous that they never fixed the issue, that being single songs being too weak rather than allow people to continue to "sing" all songs at once (Imagine how that would sound?).

If bards were ever customized on this server, I for one would hope twisting wouldn't exist anymore and all songs would get a boost as well as bard's melee dps.

It would sound fine if they were all in the same key, or related keys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0YpAE8HwWA

Twisting was by design. It's brilliant as well, and resulted in the best class mechanic I've ever played.

Swish 06-19-2013 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vexenu (Post 999291)

They really get an invis song? They must sing that very quietly..

falkun 06-19-2013 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t0lkien (Post 999315)
Twisting was by design. It's brilliant as well, and resulted in the best class mechanic I've ever played.

This. Twisting is a fantastic mechanic, especially combined with only allowing 8 possible songs at a time. While the "twitch finger" mechanic is very similar to WoW, WoW allows you to utilize all your spells, so it becomes a cut and dry rotation due to spell_A always outDPSing spell_B. EQ limits you to 8 spell slots, so you need to pick the best variety for your expected encounters. Also, unlike WoW's "rotation" button mashing, twisting changes depending on situation. I have to drop a song to add another to the rotation, so what song do I skip when I have to charm/mez a mob?

EQ Bard twisting is the genesis of WoW's rotation button mashing, but has a much better system than WoW for checks and balances to keep it interesting.

Droog007 06-19-2013 11:58 AM

There was a chick in Katta Castellum (?) that I think was supposed to be a bard. Tangling with her was always a chaotic mess. Couldn't say she acted anything like a PC bard, but it was a different experience, at least.

Not sure I fought Xygoz on live... is that NToV or VP?

Stinkum 06-19-2013 11:59 AM

Thread is all over the place.

But yeah, twisting songs is what made EQ, EQ. What you are describing is how Bards/Minstrels were on DAoC, which was a great game and might be more your style.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:12 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.