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RocketMoose 01-14-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by boboo (Post 206430)
So wait, god has no control over if I get sent to hell or not? Is that what youre saying? Do not evade the question, is the decision to send people to hell is made by god himself or it happens outside of his control? Im not talking about the decisions that would lead me to go to hell, which are mine, but the final decision, when the hammer falls, its god's or not?

The decision is yours and yours alone. God doesn't CHOOSE to send you to Hell. You by YOUR actions, and YOUR choices send yourself there.

Ezekiel 18:23
Ezekiel 33:11
2 Peter 3:9

God is Sovereign, He made the rules, He, being God, must abide by the rules that God himself set in place. He's not choosing for you to go to Hell, It's not His desire for you to go to Hell. It's like a Mom or Dad saying, no, don't do this, or you're going to go to timeout, if you do it, you go to timeout.

You're trying to make this about God choosing to send you to Hell, and no, He never wanted that. But if you choose that path, He's not going to just be like, oh okay, just kidding you can go to Heaven.

boboo 01-14-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketMoose (Post 206440)
You're trying to make this about God choosing to send you to Hell, and no, He never wanted that. But if you choose that path, He's not going to just be like, oh okay, just kidding you can go to Heaven.

Then you beleive the ultimate decision lies with god, wether or not he will condemn me to eternal suffering. Which to me, is absurd to the highest level. A loving god doesnt condemn people to eternal suffering because they do not beleive in god. Thats a god of hate and evil. Thats why i think christianity and other religions are bullshit. So without further ado, i dedicate this dayglo abortions song to God.

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boboo 01-14-2011 05:47 PM

And another Dayglo Abortions song, for good measure:

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RocketMoose 01-14-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boboo (Post 206445)
Then you beleive the ultimate decision lies with god, wether or not he will condemn me to eternal suffering. Which to me, is absurd to the highest level. A loving god doesnt condemn people to eternal suffering because they do not beleive in god. Thats a god of hate and evil. Thats why i think christianity and other religions are bullshit. So without further ado, i dedicate this dayglo abortions song to God.

Right, it's God's fault that YOU chose not to abide by the rules, and he MUST hate you because it couldn't possibly be YOUR fault.

People like you, with your sense of entitlement are exactly what's wrong with MY generation. I'm not an old blue hair, in fact far from it, but I'm not so haughty and high minded that I'm just going to believe that everything I do is right, or everything I say is right, or anything that I want is right.

Do you not see how you're trying to twist it so it fits your view? You ignore the parts you want, and focus on the parts that would make it appear that you're right, even though if you were to take a step back, you'd realize just how wrong you were.

I dunno who did what to you, or if your Daddy didn't hug you enough as a kid or whatever, but quit looking for reason to be mad brew. I'm sure you're sitting there as if you've "won" the debate here, but it's just not true. I'm sad for you.

thrice 01-14-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoggen (Post 206215)
No, because many instances allow for someone to complete a task "late." "Too late" is a situation where there is no possibility of completing said task.

Example: you get to work "late" and they dock you a portion of your pay or make you work late to make up for it.

Example 2: McGyver is about to diffuse the bomb when it blows him and his friends up.

One is late. Two is too late.


Except for the fact that the lyric is, "It's a free ride when you've already PAID" .

WTF do you think is ironic about getting a FREE ride when you're LATE, let alone TOO LATE.

Last, it's widely known that the situations in the song are hardly irony - just shitty luck.

Chanus 01-14-2011 05:50 PM

To be fair, the logical extension that everyone who died before Jesus was born (and therefore could not accept his divinity) is in Hell is just stupid.

boboo 01-14-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketMoose (Post 206447)
Right, it's God's fault that YOU chose not to abide by the rules, and he MUST hate you because it couldn't possibly be YOUR fault.

People like you, with your sense of entitlement are exactly what's wrong with MY generation. I'm not an old blue hair, in fact far from it, but I'm not so haughty and high minded that I'm just going to believe that everything I do is right, or everything I say is right, or anything that I want is right.

Do you not see how you're trying to twist it so it fits your view? You ignore the parts you want, and focus on the parts that would make it appear that you're right, even though if you were to take a step back, you'd realize just how wrong you were.

I dunno who did what to you, or if your Daddy didn't hug you enough as a kid or whatever, but quit looking for reason to be mad brew. I'm sure you're sitting there as if you've "won" the debate here, but it's just not true. I'm sad for you.

Thats cool, you can always piss on me from heaven when youre chilling with the white bearded dude in the sky, to alleviate my eternal suffering. Hes a male with white skin too right, like in the pictures?

RocketMoose 01-14-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thrice (Post 206448)
Except for the fact that the lyric is, "It's a free ride when you've already PAID" .

WTF do you think is ironic about getting a FREE ride when you're LATE, let alone TOO LATE.

Last, it's widely known that the situations in the song are hardly irony - just shitty luck.

There in lies the irony of that song.

Slathar 01-14-2011 06:55 PM

i live my life like tyler durden guys.

Slathar 01-14-2011 06:59 PM

also, and i mean this in no bad way, i think cthulu slightly resembles paul giamatti. too bad he isn't cool like him.


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