1. you are idiot; it was not some brokered deal between guilds on blue, whoever told you this is lying to you.

2. Why are you here, just to stir up shit? it takes more the lev rings to get to the ledge in vp's Bedroom. youre an idiot for believing whom ever told you this

3. Why come to these forums and stir shit on things you know nothing about? This also makes you an idiot! Have a great day

1. I am the one who was involved in it with Zeelot, actually. Try again.

2. I am here because the ruleset in VP matters to me; rules made in VP extend beyond one server. I am not 'believing' anyone - I have done it all myself.

3. See above.

The fundamental problem here is that this kind of bitching will continue unless both GMs and the leadership of guilds come together (or are pushed to come together) to define a consistent set of player based rules that are then enforced by GMs.

That is what my example is getting at; whatever is exploitative or not will continue to change, and people will continue to lawyer it. The only way to stop this is for player based rules to be enforced.

EDIT - Wrong thread for the comment that used to be here. Stop flaming each other in this thread.

Are you suggesting that the bitching will continue until staff bans training in VP, or am I reading this wrong?

setting off CT death touch cycles is illegal, unless you have a raid force ready to zone in and take the mob.

perhaps this should be the solution.

For real though, isn't the answer to being trained by someone else in Vp is to just start the train yourself? Control that shit on your own terms.

naw naw

Didn't twain just get banned for making a similar accusation of Zade?

u dont get banned in game for things on forum

dont base all your knowledge on forum posts nerd