Originally Posted by Littul Jonn (Post 3206683)

I think the point I was making was that rooted dragons take longer. IIRC you could have say, Koi pop, and from time of spawn to kill it was like 20-30ish min all said and done. Now that takes a guild, what like an hour or maybe two? (Maybe not Koi, he was just the example).

So basically, if your guild can only muster forces for about 2-3 hours a night, or 6-8 hours on a weekend, it would make sense to get 3 or 4 inner ring dragons and avoid Tunare. If they were unrooted and you could clean out the inner ring and vulak in 4 hours (or a few per night) that would still leave a day to do Tunare. Hope what i'm saying makes sense and isn't coming off crazy haha.

Originally Posted by Littul Jonn (Post 3206683)

I think the point I was making was that rooted dragons take longer. IIRC you could have say, Koi pop, and from time of spawn to kill it was like 20-30ish min all said and done. Now that takes a guild, what like an hour or maybe two? (Maybe not Koi, he was just the example).

So basically, if your guild can only muster forces for about 2-3 hours a night, or 6-8 hours on a weekend, it would make sense to get 3 or 4 inner ring dragons and avoid Tunare. If they were unrooted and you could clean out the inner ring and vulak in 4 hours (or a few per night) that would still leave a day to do Tunare. Hope what i'm saying makes sense and isn't coming off crazy haha.

Originally Posted by Hotel (Post 3206613)

fair but i don't know how D&D it is that to do these encounters you require 80+ :D

Originally Posted by Sancta (Post 3206702)

Exactly, the casuals just can't do it or won't do it, so targets stay up. Asking to be on rotation for mobs they wouldn't normally kill anyway, don't try to kill competitively, or even when given a casual 3 weeks chance still don't kill it - sounds ridiculous to me. Whatever the reason that these mobs stay up really doesn't matter, because in all cases the mob still doesn't die. No sane person would ask for something they don't or won't ever do unless they are just trying to stir the pot and/or maybe prolong the suspension as long as they can.

Originally Posted by Ennewi (Post 3206735)

So if we kill Tunare, will that finally appease you? Maybe they could reset the sleeper for us during the ban so we could prove our worthiness for pixels in ST?

Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3206741)

Nope, sorry you don’t got warder loot. Neither does tofat.

Originally Posted by Ennewi (Post 3206735)

So if we kill Tunare, will that finally appease you? Maybe they could reset the sleeper for us during the ban so we could prove our worthiness for pixels in ST?

Originally Posted by kaizersoze (Post 3204720)

growth is a very unfun place to raid. Riot i think takes something like 6ish hours to clear it, AG last i recall took like 10+, not sure what Freedom / AG in joint took but Freedom I dont think has killed her themselves yet. Kittens, I honestly dont know how long their PoG clears have taken but I'm sure it's probably close to AG's pace, maybe faster, idk if they have people ninja afk like I recall a lot of people doing during AG clears. Those times are also for guilds that know the current meta to pull all the minis in as quick a fashion as possible, even still having massive screw ups and wiping with huge setbacks sometimes.

Tunare's loot is good but its a massive time investment and a lot of those people in the "smaller guilds" dont want to necessarily invest 11 hours a day into raiding for 2-4 pieces of loot and maybe some chests off Tunare. Or perhaps they simply have other commitments that they can't push off for that long, combined with the tracking / killing they do on smaller "less desirable" targets. Just because they dont want to kill Tunare doesn't mean they shouldn't have -some- voice into the new rules and agreements that will effect the entire server and not just AG / F / Riot.

Originally Posted by LazyHydras (Post 3206777)

Growth really does suck. I recall AG doing it in record time once and that was about 6 / 6.5 hours. But, yes, to your point, typically an all day clear.