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Salaryman 02-26-2025 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcbrown (Post 3723479)
The 132-AC has a max-hit peak that's about 2/3rds the height of the min-hit parse, so I think this is in that intermediate range. I'll do a smaller 160ish parse and then I'm hoping a 100ish parse will either have same-height peaks or a higher peak on the max hit. Then I want to see whether there's a difference with spell-ac vs worn-ac and whether there's any difference with or without shield ac.

The other thing that jumped out to me was that the avg hit excluding min/max was almost unchanged in the two experiments at 51 and 50.6.

RED99

Well I feel bad for you because you have no shields

On my LEvel 60 EPIC RANGER

I have a:

Shield of the Red Dragon

Shield of the Green Dragon (420 every day)

Shield of the Water Dargon


and I think you should:

Learn 2 Play


https://i.imgur.com/hNQWkS7.png


RED99

Duik 02-26-2025 04:13 PM

Look at me mommy!
I got a bucket and a spadw and i built a sandcastle.
Mommy mommy looook.
I sword and board on my ranga.
I caught them all!

Ripqozko 02-26-2025 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salaryman (Post 3724498)
RED99

Well I feel bad for you because you have no shields

On my LEvel 60 EPIC RANGER

I have a:

Shield of the Red Dragon

Shield of the Green Dragon (420 every day)

Shield of the Water Dargon


and I think you should:

Learn 2 Play


https://i.imgur.com/hNQWkS7.png


RED99

i got an aary shield on mine, im sorry you never progressed past kunark

Jimjam 02-26-2025 04:32 PM

^The real pvp happens on the forums.

Vear99 02-26-2025 10:20 PM

Thanks for doing those parses, bcbrown. It definitely seems like the best explanation is that NPCs always get ~65% interval hits and the remaining 35% are either min or max depending on relative AC/ATK. The ad hoc nature of Project 1999 game mechanics never ceases to amaze me, considering how pedantic Nilbog is about quests and such.

The most interesting thing about this is that if true, it implies that tanks want AC for raiding and HP for farming/leveling, while most people take the opposite approach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3724526)
i got an aary shield on mine, im sorry you never progressed past kunark

Salaryman has been defeated by Ripqozko in the Ranger ac parsing (I'm serious) thread!

Snaggles 02-27-2025 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vear99 (Post 3724591)
Thanks for doing those parses, bcbrown. It definitely seems like the best explanation is that NPCs always get ~65% interval hits and the remaining 35% are either min or max depending on relative AC/ATK. The ad hoc nature of Project 1999 game mechanics never ceases to amaze me, considering how pedantic Nilbog is about quests and such.

The most interesting thing about this is that if true, it implies that tanks want AC for raiding and HP for farming/leveling, while most people take the opposite approach.

Or really, if you just focus on HP’s it serves both purposes. Not to say turning a blind eye to AC as a raid tank is a good idea, but most raid issues don’t involve AC or the last couple hundred hps.

Goregasmic 02-27-2025 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vear99 (Post 3724591)
The most interesting thing about this is that if true, it implies that tanks want AC for raiding and HP for farming/leveling, while most people take the opposite approach.

Care to elaborate?

Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I understand the main goal of a high end content raid tank gear wise is not getting one-rounded? It seems like AC reduces the risk of that happening but will never completely negate it. That's assuming you can come close to squelching the mob's attack but on raid encounters like vulak I doubt it is even possible on P99 so HP seems a better insurance policy?

For grouping at lower levels, yeah, get the minimum required AC and move on to other stats but we only tested a level 45 mob. Not sure if neglecting AC is the best way to go on stuff like juggs or DN rats.

Salaryman 02-27-2025 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3724526)
i got an aary shield on mine, im sorry you never progressed past kunark

RED99

Well then why dont you do some tests with the shield you supposedly have on your ranger, which you have no screenshots of or other proof of having?

https://i.imgur.com/0krcBlV.png

Read that in your goblin tongue

RED99

sogundordor 02-27-2025 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vear99 (Post 3724591)
Salaryman has been defeated by Ripqozko in the Ranger ac parsing (I'm serious) thread!

damn it made laugh out loud in office~

Thanks for doing tons of parsing bcbrown~ distribution is more interesting than average dmg~

not getting one-rounded is good idea for ranger keeping aggro rdy to bump:D

Snaggles 02-27-2025 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salaryman (Post 3724696)
RED99

Well then why dont you do some tests with the shield you supposedly have on your ranger, which you have no screenshots of or other proof of having?

RED99

Probably doesn’t have any screenshots because that thing almost rots every time.

You are literally the only one nerding over shields for rangers, let alone collecting kunark Druid ones.

Try Blue or Green if you want to get passable gear and learn how to play the game. Or stay on Red farming Paineel while you finish your manifesto.


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