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DeathsSilkyMist 08-30-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kich867 (Post 3498944)
I mean this thread is lulzy but, at low levels? Absolutely. Warriors are unkillable death machines. Gear out a level 1 warrior, you can chain farm blues non-stop up until your 30's and even then if you have really good gear you can absolutely continue to chain farm blues.

I soloed a warrior from 1-43 with only gear I quested for / found myself. The first 28 levels or so were very fast. And that was in basically Banded armor I had to stop and raise blacksmithing for, a Bullsmasher I spent a day or so questing for, like real bullshit gear.

In real gear? If people don't think a mildly twinked warrior can't solo they've certainly never actually thought about/tried it, it's fuckin stupid easy. Crippling blows melt shit and your AC/HP pool is huge.

Comparatively, my wizard who did the same route leveled slower because I could only kill 2 mobs before waiting for my mana to return. I know enchanters can charm kite so that's obviously better, but I think you're underestimating how good warriors are at soloing.

Yup. The data I showed didn't even have crits/crips. I could do much higher DPS if I get lucky.

[Sat Aug 13 21:14:28 2022] lands a Crippling Blow!(204)

At level 24 I can crippling blow higher than a level 60 water pet's backstab:)

Ripqozko 08-30-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kich867 (Post 3498944)
I mean this thread is lulzy but, at low levels? Absolutely. Warriors are unkillable death machines. Gear out a level 1 warrior, you can chain farm blues non-stop up until your 30's and even then if you have really good gear you can absolutely continue to chain farm blues.

I soloed a warrior from 1-43 with only gear I quested for / found myself. The first 28 levels or so were very fast. And that was in basically Banded armor I had to stop and raise blacksmithing for, a Bullsmasher I spent a day or so questing for, like real bullshit gear.

In real gear? If people don't think a mildly twinked warrior can't solo they've certainly never actually thought about/tried it, it's fuckin stupid easy. Crippling blows melt shit and your AC/HP pool is huge.

Comparatively, my wizard who did the same route leveled slower because I could only kill 2 mobs before waiting for my mana to return. I know enchanters can charm kite so that's obviously better, but I think you're underestimating how good warriors are at soloing.

He prob was charming wrong, line up mobs with root, charm and let multiple beat on it, break nuke and repeat. War can't fuck with 3 mobs beating on it.

Edit: it's not what pet does, it's what mobs do to pet

DeathsSilkyMist 08-30-2022 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3498950)
He prob was charming wrong, line up mobs with root, charm and let multiple beat on it, break nuke and repeat. War can't fuck with 3 mobs beating on it.

Show us how you charm on a low level Enchanter and post it.

Too bad you won't, since you are just a troll:)

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Originally Posted by PlsNoBan (Post 3498945)
Ahh so a mildly twinked warrior with a haste item vs a charm pet that you admittedly didn't even cast haste on. This doesn't even factor in that charming done right has 0 downtime and no matter how many you can kill eventually the warrior will have to sit/bandage regularly to keep going.

Got it. Excellent data.

You don't haste pets that low level silly. You just kill the pets and recharm for max XP.

Honestly, now you have to resort to the argument that OP is creating this group from scratch with 0 plat to start lol. Who doesn't have 3k these days to buy a few decent items?

PlsNoBan 08-30-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3498952)
You don't haste pets that low level silly. You just kill the pets and recharm for max XP.

If you're playing that strategy the charm is disposable and you just grab new ones constantly. It will obviously not do incredible dps if you do nothing to buff it at low level. What are you trying to prove? You can do slightly more dps for a few kills then bandage for half an hour?

Fucking clown

Ripqozko 08-30-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3498952)
Show us how you charm on a low level Enchanter and post it.

Too bad you won't, since you are just a troll:)



You don't haste pets that low level silly. You just kill the pets and recharm for max XP.

Honestly, now you have to resort to the argument that OP is creating this group from scratch with 0 plat to start lol. Who doesn't have 3k these days to buy a few decent items?

I just told you how

DeathsSilkyMist 08-30-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3498957)
I just told you how

No you didn't. Please post evidence for how much DPS your charmed pets are doing at low level. You have nothing other than trolling.

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Originally Posted by PlsNoBan (Post 3498956)
If you're playing that strategy the charm is disposable and you just grab new ones constantly. It will obviously not do incredible dps if you do nothing to buff it at low level. What are you trying to prove? You can do slightly more dps for a few kills then bandage for half an hour?

Fucking clown

I just keep proving you wrong, and you just keep insulting me.

Ripqozko 08-30-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3498960)
No you didn't. Please post evidence for how much DPS your charmed pets are doing at low level. You have nothing other than trolling.



I just keep proving you wrong, and you just keep insulting me.

It's not the pets dps, you root multiple and charm and let it get beat on

cyxthryth 08-30-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3498941)
as the data shows.

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Originally Posted by cyxthryth (Post 3497460)
You called me "silly" when you were backed into a corner by my replies to you on the below thread too, and you stopped replying (like a little bitch): https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...401629&page=37.


How's it going in that corner you've been backed into?

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3498669)
I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.


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Originally Posted by cyxthryth (Post 3498732)
No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?


DeathsSilkyMist 08-30-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3498963)
It's not the pets dps, you root multiple and charm and let it get beat on

And that also costs a lot more mana, time to setup, you can get charm breaks, root breaks, etc. It is up to you to show how much average DPS you get from that strategy vs. having a Warrior simply beat things down hehe. As I said before, my DPS wasn't even including crits/crips. I can deal 204 damage with a Wurmslayer as a crippling blow at 24.

cyxthryth 08-30-2022 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3498941)
as the data shows.

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Originally Posted by cyxthryth (Post 3497460)
You called me "silly" when you were backed into a corner by my replies to you on the below thread too, and you stopped replying (like a little bitch): https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...401629&page=37.


How's it going in that corner you've been backed into?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3498669)
I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.


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Originally Posted by cyxthryth (Post 3498732)
No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?



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