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Foxplay 06-10-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin (Post 2721494)
We're on page 11 and you still haven't listed so much as a single guild.

Obviously a guild or personal reputation that asking to tag along with another guild and communicating is beneath him/her, or fears they will say no because of their guild tag that they won't even bother trying...

paulgiamatti 06-10-2018 04:57 PM

I'm not in the agreement for the record. And I'm not saying you have to join a guild with a sky slot you like, just that that's your best option for getting them shiny sky pixels. After that it's negotiation - start up a dialog with guilds who have slots you want and see if something can be worked out. AG used to do sky during the a.m., for example. With enough incentive they might be willing to make some concessions. Wedging in a couple FFA days is certainly an option, though not one that's on the table currently because you will never get a guild to forfeit their slot to accommodate a FFA day under a player-made agreement. The rotation is exclusive, not selfish. It's founded on consensus building - some guilds didn't want it, some did, some didn't care and everyone wound up benefiting from it all the same.

There are also technical concerns about opening up sky in this way - it could be the straw that breaks the rather precarious player-made agreement's back. GM enforcement is contingent on player cooperation - if too many guilds just say "fuck it, FFA sky" then Sirken et al will just say "fuck it, FFA sky". There are also mechanical concerns which I'm not very well-versed in, but you can completely rule out a OoA laissez-faire arrangement to maximize NDs with even a single FFA day. Not to mention other sky wonkiness - do you really want to see island 4 horse-birds permaparked at the zone in to instakill competition 24/7? Trust me, P99 can make it happen, and much more. It seems like at this point though you aren't really even arguing for your own interests and more just arguing to win the argument - it's incredibly unlikely you'd see much sky time even with a couple FFA days as the whole zone would be a shitshow for the entirety of those 48 hours. But I'm not going to dismiss FFA days altogether, it's an interesting idea even if it wouldn't serve your interests.

paulgiamatti 06-10-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by paulgiamatti (Post 2721506)
it's incredibly unlikely you'd see much sky time even with a couple FFA days as the whole zone would be a shitshow for the entirety of those 48 hours. But I'm not going to dismiss FFA days altogether, it's an interesting idea even if it wouldn't serve your interests.

Actually I'm probably overestimating overall interest in sky here, but there'd definitely be some shitshow moments, and god I would hate to be on the receiving end of those petitions. Staff would probably just have to designate sky no holds barred during those days, and that goes back to the slippery slope argument. All it takes is one or two guilds with petty grudges to destroy an agreement.

Foxplay 06-10-2018 05:11 PM

I'd love to see people just as you say "just fuck it" and try to FFA sky again player cooperative agreements, cause I bet sirken can doll out mass suspensions just as easily as he can piledrive silly threads like this in a single post

deezy 06-10-2018 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin (Post 2721494)
We're on page 11 and you still haven't listed so much as a single guild.

rustle

shuklak 06-10-2018 09:45 PM

Tldr p99 to agnarr

MagpieRockyl 06-10-2018 10:37 PM

Sky is a place where you meet sick losers 2018

arsenalpow 06-10-2018 10:43 PM

Yes, police sky. Pay no attention to every other locked down raid zone. Nothing to see here.

fan D 06-10-2018 11:07 PM

and people say red server is toxic


yall are pathetic lmao

Shinko 06-11-2018 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by arsenalpow (Post 2721635)
Yes, police sky. Pay no attention to every other locked down raid zone. Nothing to see here.

popo chest


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