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Ratchet51 08-24-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Troxx (Post 3496238)
Peer review is an important aspect of scientific research and publication. It does ensure that quack-pot things don’t find themselves in main stream journals without scrutiny or challenge as publication in reputable journals carries the weight of trust.

There come times when new ideas challenge well established norms and are proven correct but any such ideas/theories are thoroughly vetted to prove accuracy/truth. Generally speaking any finding that challenges established norms is not accepted until findings have been reproduced repeatedly by others following the same methodology.

This is where Dr (former, licensure revoked) Andrew Wakefield’s publication in the Lancet journal regarding Thimerosal and Autism link fell flat on its face. Nobody could reproduce it and it wasn’t until years later that it came to light that his research was frankly fraudulent.

Unfortunately, by then the damage was done.

Don't come after Andrew Wakefield like that. These people look to him as second father, he's right up there with Trump as one of the greatest scientific minds of all times to the RnF crowd. You better tread lightly around here, mister.

Jibartik 08-24-2022 04:28 PM

Peer review cant be trusted anymore because science journalism is for profit.

Barnes 08-24-2022 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3496442)
Peer review cant be trusted anymore because science journalism is for profit.

Indeed, Why i listen to doctors who have nothing to gain only to lose when it comes to this latest covid19 experiment. Seems most are drinking the Big pharma koolaid. They only listen to sources that have massive conflicts of interest lol. Covid wiped out a lot of critical thinking skills it seems.

Barnes 08-24-2022 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Troxx (Post 3496238)
Peer review is an important aspect of scientific research and publication. It does ensure that quack-pot things don’t find themselves in main stream journals without scrutiny or challenge as publication in reputable journals carries the weight of trust.

There come times when new ideas challenge well established norms and are proven correct but any such ideas/theories are thoroughly vetted to prove accuracy/truth. Generally speaking any finding that challenges established norms is not accepted until findings have been reproduced repeatedly by others following the same methodology.

This is where Dr (former, licensure revoked) Andrew Wakefield’s publication in the Lancet journal regarding Thimerosal and Autism link fell flat on its face. Nobody could reproduce it and it wasn’t until years later that it came to light that his research was frankly fraudulent.

Unfortunately, by then the damage was done.


Thanks for bringing up Dr. Wakefield! I also dug deep on him, but I looked at his side of the story also not just the pharma side of it. Here is a great interview with him recently where he explains exactly what happened to him and why. Just incase you want to be less bias.

https://rumble.com/v1g8e3f-steve-kir...june-2022.html

Barnes 08-24-2022 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Troxx (Post 3495979)
Dr John Campbell (PhD nurse educator, not physician) is notorious for espousing misinformation.

You shout vet your sources a little more thoroughly.

Try reading the study he is talking about instead of complaining about his platform of choice and his education (probably better than most) lol. The study should be worrisome to most parents injecting their children with this experiment.

Patrece 08-25-2022 01:15 AM

https://youtu.be/0qgzD0r94IA

Pure blood smiling big right here

Ratchet51 08-25-2022 09:24 AM

Can you people take this somewhere else? I'm trying to live in sin over here

Troxx 08-25-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnes (Post 3496715)
Thanks for bringing up Dr. Wakefield! I also dug deep on him, but I looked at his side of the story also not just the pharma side of it. Here is a great interview with him recently where he explains exactly what happened to him and why. Just incase you want to be less bias.

https://rumble.com/v1g8e3f-steve-kir...june-2022.html

Funny that you bring up Wakefield vs big pharma. Are you aware that he put in for a patent for the only Thimerosol free MMR vaccine citing patients the neurodevelopmental concerns that his (and only his) study found “evidence” for?

Are you aware of what a conflict of interest is?

Dr (former, licensure revoked) Wakefield stood to make 10s to 100s of millions of dollars/pounds on the back of his flawed study that was later deemed to not just be inaccurate … but frankly fraudulent.

It’s a huge part of why the medical board (not “big pharma”) had his license revoked.

https://briandeer.com/wakefield/vaccine-patent.htm

Patrece 08-25-2022 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratchet51 (Post 3496780)
Can you people take this somewhere else? I'm trying to live in sin over here


Take a wild ass guess who dragged politics into this community

Barnes 08-26-2022 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Troxx (Post 3496927)
Funny that you bring up Wakefield vs big pharma. Are you aware that he put in for a patent for the only Thimerosol free MMR vaccine citing patients the neurodevelopmental concerns that his (and only his) study found “evidence” for?

Are you aware of what a conflict of interest is?

Dr (former, licensure revoked) Wakefield stood to make 10s to 100s of millions of dollars/pounds on the back of his flawed study that was later deemed to not just be inaccurate … but frankly fraudulent.

It’s a huge part of why the medical board (not “big pharma”) had his license revoked.

https://briandeer.com/wakefield/vaccine-patent.htm

He would have been able to get his medical license back like his partner did that was working on the same paper at the time. Dr. Wakefield did not have 500k to fight for his license back from the Pharma attack on his factual paper. His partner also had his license taken but he had far more financial resources than Wakefield to fight for it back. All of this is explained in that interview I posted. Wakefield learned that if you write papers that make vaccines look bad this was the MMR vaccine, then you better have deep pockets to fight back. Anyways watch that interview, you might learn something or atleast have a more balanced outlook on his experience and story.


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