Are resists that bad

[raka]

Lvl 40 mnk

45MR

I would say I have resisted root 90% of time.

Aside from partials on all other resists, what is the deal?

I have had 120mr and seem to have had the same results.

Someone expand on this so my brain gains knowledge.

[SamwiseRed]

yes at 45 mr you are going to get rooted.

you are not getting rooted 90% at 120 mr.

[raka]

sam,

my point is it seems i am not being rooted much at 45mr (I am resisting a crap ton)

I just want the factual reasoning to push MR to 120+ so that I understand and see that it actually makes a difference.

rabble rabble

[SamwiseRed]

whoops my bad but first point still remains. you will get rooted at 45mr eventually after a few casts. other than that just luck. as a monk i imagine its hard to obtain 100mr for the casual new player but ya its important. ill post you the graph

[SamwiseRed]

http://i.imgur.com/ztjokUH.jpg

bottom line mr, left side is resist rate

[SamwiseRed]

at 120 mr you have almost a 90% chance to resist root. ill try to repost nulls explanation later.

[raka]

thank you sam!

good day to you

[mostbitter]

the problem is that you can have 300mr, and still take a root.

[Nirgon]

Root spam is a commonly used strat in group pvp :/

[Smedy]

yeah, which means it lands far to often to be classic

never ever saw root used in pvp unless someone was rooting a pet (not mage epic pet that resisted a shit ton of magic based spells)

[Yerderlayer]

yeah nobody was rooting in classic pvp I dont see why we cant get that changed here

[Nirgon]

Naked people and pets or tash, mala, full dispel.

[Tomatoking]

ten bucks raka resisting root from npcs and dont understand the difference between npcs and pvp spells

[Bamzal Sherbet]

with the huge RNG factor for resisting CC spells on this server, the strategy in any situation becomes 'spam cc spells' instead of use tactics/strategies/skills that you learned/developed/used on live (like jousting for example). creating a truly un-classic experience


in live a player could take on a group, and a group could take on a raid. Here they just get spam root/snare and zergged down. completely different game requiring no skill like it did on live, catering to the zerg bluebie armies


Ah classic resists, that would be nice


this server caters to zergs and there is no skill required in pvp. doomed from the start. Null - fix resists. What makes you think that you can add a custom mechanic into the server when everyone else on the project is trying to make this classic.


classic eq pvp wasnt about getting rooted or snared or hit by anything magic base. there were whole other aspects that required entirely different skillset that is nonexistant here. not classic


Even though they call this classic, its not. Its custom and its shitty. LoZ on the other hand is custom, and its fun.
If you are stuck playing custom, then why play shit, when you can have fun?


please make resists classic and i will log in. that means not being stunned and rooted. period.


Resist Feedback post 11/6/2011 - 18/6/2012
still bad and non-classic


^derp
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches.html
This thread is spiralling outta control. So much fail on one page.
It's clear certain players & developers have no interest in a classic experience, even though this is advertised as classic (boggling???), so im just done arguing.
Peace


Zereh, Sirken, and any other moran still wondering:
The question being asked by the OP is NOT: "Heres why resists suck so bad.." OR "Why do resists suck so bad?" OR "Heres how you fix resists"
The question being asked IS: "Why are we implementing this SHITTY CUSTOM resist system, on a CLASSIC server?"
Please stay on topic, you fucking morans


Apple you're gonna get a kick outta this one...
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...53&postcount=7
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103
06-05-2000, 04:55 PM
^ Thanks for helping me prove my point Neolm, such a relevant post.


This is just a drop in the bucket as to how game-breaking/altering the spell resist mechanics are. This is suppose to be a classic server, but this single non-classic mechanic is affecting entirely all other aspects of the server, giving the overall experience a feel of a custom server (with shitty pvp).
Anyone remember a pvp tactic called jousting??? Obvously Null DID NOT.


i never would have thought that an everquest pvp server would digress into using 'Blind' as a valid tactic.

[03-02-2001] http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...11&postcount=3
First, dont lvl. Clerics stink at pvp at higher lvls.
Use furor to inturrupt others spells.
All magic based spells (root/blind/stun) are good up to about lvl 35 then many people have the magic resist to pretty much resist all those.
PvP in a group, solo you will stink at mid to higher lvls
There are lots of tactics, just think defense...
[03-08-2001] http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...15&postcount=7
I'm level 49 and I've learned I can only land one spell: cancel magic. Anything else and you're going to be wasting your time on a red server. Blue servers will tell you to use this or that nuke and stun because all the do is duel and people on blue servers have horrible MR. The only stun I even consider loading is the level 1 stun, just to interrupt a cast if I think I can. All the others stun and do damage, giving them 2 sv magic checks, thus making them twice as likely to be resisted.


Null, enough with the custom bullshit. Enough tweaking this and tweaking that. Do work son. Get it right, once and for all. You alone are driving people away.


Just want classic, classic is not getting perma stunned and raped by clerics. Clerics shouldn't be able land their magic based spells in high level pvp with 100+ MR.


PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY PVP IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO JUST GET ROOTED AND ZERGGED DOWN. YOUR CUSTOM RESISTS ALREADY CHASED ALL THE DIEHARD PVPERS AWAY. CLASSIC PVPERS CAME HERE TO EXPERIENCE PVP AS IT WAS IN 1999, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF PROJECT 1999. HOWEVER YOUR CUSTOM RESIST SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY GAME-BREAKING, NO ONE REMEMBERD IT THAT WAY, NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY IT THAT WAY. JUST STICK TO MAKING THINGS CLASSIC, ESPECIALLY RESISTS.
IF YOU WANT TO GO MAKE SOMETHING CUSTOM, GO DECORATE A HOUSE IN FREEPORT.


resists are so messed up thats pretty much the only thing making the server utterly broken when it comes to pvp, turning any classic PvPer away (who made it above 20)


Resist Feedback post 11/6/2011 - 19/4/2012 (RIP): THEY BLOW!!! FIX!!! PLZ MAKE IT CLASSIC LIKE YOU NORMALLY DO!!!


How did they think up resists here? They strive for a truly classic experience, and then custom resists? WTF!!!!


Yeah but don't you know? Null had this great system he devloped in his spare time


Next time do your homework Null... You ruined this server.


just fix resist already. no need for some shitty custom resist system. Make it classic alreay! I never got rooted blind stunned snared etc


Won't be logging back in until I am unrootable/usnarable/unstunnable.


don't forget the shitty resist code that needs a mentioning


just take root and snare out of the game altogether. That would be a more classic feel to be honest


shits fucked cry wolf chain casting root gg


This thread is so fail
You think the P1999 developers care about how you think non-classic spell mechanics should work? They are focused on recreating an experience as it was in 1999.
If you don't remember, on live they were always making changes to the PvP mechanics.
All this talk about Kunark and Velious does not matter right now, so just save it for when it does matter.
If you started playing after Kunark you should not be posting. If you only played emulator pvp you should definitely not be posting.
The P1999 developers probably don't want to hear all your theories about how PvP spell mechanics should work, considering it is evident that most of your experiences are far from classic.
Stop wasting everyones time creating false recollections of the truth when the facts are out there.

Example:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...ches-1999.html

------------------------------
September 13, 1999
------------------------------
PVP Changes:
- In order to make PVP combat between spellcasters and melee types more
viable some changes to PVP spell effects have been made. All damage
spells cast in PVP combat will do less damage to the PC than the same
spell would do to an NPC. When a PC is under the effect of a root-type
spell there is a 20% chance that they will break free when a direct
damage spell is cast upon them.

So cut the BS. Help Red99 by getting real facts so they can develop it.

[Handpartytowel]

bamzal wins thread

[Nirgon]

I'll just leave this here: http://www.oocities.org/garden66/EQstory.html

[Galacticus]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/reverse-608g6g651450.gif

[Alcoholics Anonymous]

resists smell gooood

[Dullah]

Of the last 3 times someone tried to root me in pvp, I was first cast rooted 3 times @150mr.

Other than that massive first cast bug which everyone takes advantage of, its not that bad...

Especially liked this

HOWEVER YOUR CUSTOM RESIST SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY GAME-BREAKING, NO ONE REMEMBERD IT THAT WAY, NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY IT THAT WAY. JUST STICK TO MAKING THINGS CLASSIC, ESPECIALLY RESISTS.
IF YOU WANT TO GO MAKE SOMETHING CUSTOM, GO DECORATE A HOUSE IN FREEPORT.

[Skitliv]

What bamzal said us exactly why I laugh whenever I see red99 players saying "bluebie this, bluebie that".

You god damn retards have no idea what real pvp is if you're advocating this shit like its something worth playing. Comparing live pvp vs red99 pvp is a lot like comparing these: http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2012/08/5033e3e001ce8.jpeg

[Nirgon]

I recognize the difference and still think you're bluebies for playing who tagged the most first or "I've been sitting here all day its mine and I'll afk 5-10 minutes at a time with no response and petition when I get back"

[Tomatoking]

bamzal wins thread

[Rettii]

Pras bamzal