wait, sundawg got the first epic?

[karsten]

look I ain't gonna hate on a dude being tenacious to get pixels, but how can anyone in charge look at that and not feel like an asshole

[Jigga]

thats just it, they dont look

[Rettii]

hmm

[Tumdumm]

dont worry guys, now that he doesn't have to work on getting epic he has more time to make the server a better place for all!

right????

rightt?????????

[Rettii]

dont worry guys, now that he doesn't have to work on getting epic he has more time to make the server a better place for all!

right????

rightt?????????

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[Smedy]

Rogean came down from the skies and hailed Sundawg his most worthy peasant and proceeded to hand him the sword of truth, flame on faggots, shit's classic.

[Jenni D]

who cares, really? the guy never pvps anyway.

[Jenni D]

i lied. apparently he rarely does pvp as he attacked me on his druid earlier (needless to say he soon fled and gated)

[Supreme]

i lied. apparently he rarely does pvp as he attacked me on his druid earlier (needless to say he soon fled and gated)

Only because you plugged and decided to forum PVP instead.

[mostbitter]

Nice, supreme was Arzak/sundawg all along.

[Nirgon]

He's a high elf, hits like a wet noodle and isn't out pvping you guys. Pally does dogshit damage to raid targets. Pretty much a non-factor/who cares issue on him. Move on.

[heartbrand]

He's a high elf, hits like a wet noodle and isn't out pvping you guys. Pally does dogshit damage to raid targets. Pretty much a non-factor/who cares issue on him. Move on.

Hard to PVP people who are in sky or deep in the hole / howling stones and evac as soon as the first nihilum member enters the zone

[Nirgon]

Okay so you know where they are, and they're not of enough interest to chase down there. We get it!

Point is, people are freaking out about his epic pally. My point underlines how much of a non-issue it is.

Not removing these items while the entire staff was aware of them before patching is the problem though. Sloppy and unappreciated by everyone outside of selfish interests within your guild.

[Tomatoking]

Nice, supreme was Arzak/sundawg all along.

serious?

[mwllowyellow2]

Hard to PVP people who are in sky or deep in the hole / howling stones and evac as soon as the first nihilum member enters the zone

It's not when the first second or third nihilum that zones in that people decide to evac, but instead it's when the 12th 13th 14th nihilum member to come in after a full group that one decides to evac.

[Junkman]

Lotta mad up in hereeeee be glad not mad and bad

[Andis]

It's not when the first second or third nihilum that zones in that people decide to evac, but instead it's when the 12th 13th 14th nihilum member to come in after a full group that one decides to evac.

mellow said it right

bring in a fair grp for pvp and get rolled.

but guess what, you never will LOL

[this user was banned]

confirmed classic

[Tomatoking]

this user was banned lol

serious tho , supreme is a dev ? this legit?

[Nirgon]

bring in a fair grp for pvp and get rolled.


You guys are really lucky btw, ask Gongshow. Heresy would have formed groups of 15-20 and went around and beat the shit outta everyone with this advantage.

You only gotta worry about Tune griefing your bard swarmz :P.

[nilbog]

Not removing these items while the entire staff was aware of them before patching is the problem though. Sloppy and unappreciated by everyone outside of selfish interests within your guild.

I have told you this twice. It is quite difficult to ensure absolutely every instance of a particular item is gone if it doesn't exist in an exposed table. I suggested you look at every possible way an item could be possessed by a character.. whether it be on them, their cursor, their bank, their corpse, within their blob.. etc. I wanted to remove all of these a long.. long time ago. Just like blue diamonds and anything else we've had trouble with.

It is not that simple. What I did NOT want to happen was to remove some pieces of it, and have others remain. That would be truly unfair. So, while searching for alternative solutions or for a code solution for 100% removals, server was patched, and now its a deal with it scenario. You should take a look at the db and code before you call it sloppy. Hate on it as much as you'd like, but it's not for lack of trying.

[Nirgon]

I think the source your started with is sloppy and you're making chicken salad out of previous chicken shit. That work is certainly to be commended. I'll never claim I could have turned that source into what you have today. Point conceded.

But, I wouldn't have deployed epics and altered the time line. You didn't deploy this, as far as I can tell. Rogean did. You're good per usual in my book.

[Nirgon]

And if I make a wild conjecture.

If this is a nasty query to develop, do it once and save it for later. Replace itemids as necessary. Maybe it doesn't work like this either, but how will we ever know :/.

[Nirgon]

Question 2 our boy Hughman still has his cloak from Nihilum kills (whilst he wore the tag). Xantille lost his bag, Stasis lost his gloves.

I could say something "stupid" and be a jerk (frustrating subject for me here) but maybe the fair and civil thing to do is just ask, "why?".

[nilbog]

If someone writes a query that can do that, great. I use sql on a daily basis at work, and for eqemu, and I don't think it's that simple. Plenty of old eqemu developers round these parts. If one of you can make something that works, I'll use it.

Question 2 our boy Hughman still has his cloak from Nihilum kills (whilst he wore the tag). Xantille lost his bag, Stasis lost his gloves.

I could say something "stupid" and be a jerk (frustrating subject for me here) but maybe the fair and civil thing to do is just ask, "why?".

No idea who, when, where or why about any of that. In game decisions such as those can usually only be answered by the csr staff.

[Handpartytowel]

give hpt access to batshit cray cray non-normalized mysql server. will be red99 DB cop under authority of deputy sheriff nirgon and chief of cyberpolice nilbog.

[Nirgon]

Done by Rogean, Sirken can't answer for it. Already asked him.

I'm aware somewhat of how this blob/clob you have for character inventory or item ownership exists in... some way.

You have to expand it all the way out and its an ugly mess, point taken. However, we've seen item removals done before in the case of Xantille's sploited naggy bag and Stasis's glvoes. This is a Nilbog/Rogean issue, and you seem to be most active so I come to you good sir.

Asking for information from busy Rogean (who I currently feel bad for hoofing a server cost as I've read) and Null is going to leave me empty handed.

This is important to more than just one extremely verbose, drastically immersed poster (moi).

[Handpartytowel]

give hpt access to batshit cray cray non-normalized mysql server. will be red99 DB cop under authority of deputy sheriff nirgon and chief of cyberpolice nilbog.

or a backup or something so i cant see current state of server. i assume the db has many modifications from stock eqemu?

[Nirgon]

Most people don't make 7400 posts fighting for all this classic pvp stuff and exposing cheating (not all of which crusading for server integrity, admittedly), they just log out and don't come back.

[Vile]

TRUNCATE characters

[heartbrand]

ALERT, ALERT, there was one trakanon gut's prior to epic's going in months after accelerated timeline, ALERT ALERT

holy fuck dude worry about the pressing issues on this server:

Global OOC full of the same tards spewing "ARZAK = DEV = CORRUPT = RMT = HERE TO FUCK U NEWBS IN ASS"

No YT

EXP Mod out with no group bonus in it's stead

[Nirgon]

I also hope that between (active) staff and (intelligent) players that we currently have a clear understanding where respect lies, frustrations exist, and questions need to be answered.

Sirken is doing an exceptional job at keeping up with an overflowing petition queue on both servers, and playing his cards almost perfectly when giving respect and receiving it in return.

But he doesn't have the power to do it with help from people with the true power. No one's really complaining loudly about the issues that Sirken can fix. It is when issues go beyond his range of abilities, and for some time, that we get up in arms. Truly, he's doing an amazing job with his finite ability.

Regarding his power and what he's done thus far...I'm not one of the people clapping and jumping up and down for the AoNs being handed out. However, at the same time, I am the loudest voice of timeline/classic-integrity-damaging quest items being allowed to remain in game. Loot should be earned, and fairly upon the time line. That's the entirety of the whole "legit" "classic" label on the server and why I play that, and not hack box 2.0. Unfortunately, we've reached the too late point for this.

The XP bonus was very intentionally stated to be in place to offset the faster xp gain. Then it is removed without mention and somewhat coincidentally.

Again, sir, "why?". Can the 70 or so non-Nihilum / hardcore otherwise EQ players here just hear "it was removed unintentionally"? Or was it removed intentionally and you don't want to see an exodus? What's happening? My gut tells me this is unintentional but I can hardly hear it over the sound of the tin foil these days.

[heartbrand]

Rogean already said it was done unintentionally. And yes, six AoN's being handed out on a server that had three total is more damaging than one trakanon gut.

[heartbrand]

[Sun Feb 17 16:03:30 2013] nilbog says out of character, 'Not intentional. Waiting on Rogean to find out what previous multiplier was'

[Nirgon]

ALERT, ALERT, there was one trakanon gut's prior to epic's going in months after accelerated timeline, ALERT ALERT

holy fuck dude worry about the pressing issues on this server:

Global OOC full of the same tards spewing "ARZAK = DEV = CORRUPT = RMT = HERE TO FUCK U NEWBS IN ASS"

No YT

EXP Mod out with no group bonus in it's stead

^ Ignore this man, he has absolutely no integrity. We know who has xp groups in KC/seb regularly and who is out pan handling for XP during the day. Don't think I'm stupid Heartbrand. If anything, some kind of solo melee bonus would have to go in to quell are the tears I see about xp. I'd say implementing something like that just looks outrageously stupid. If you don't have friends to play with, or foresee yourself solo'ing most of the time... light bulb... make a solo class until you can farm enough gear for your melee to solo. You also benefitted from the largest xp bonus to date on either server Heartbrand (fact). You're not appearing to be clever, or intelligently promoting things for your own gain. Your efforts are completely transparent and stupid.

Also, don't lump me in with Slathar or the rest of the ooc spammers. In fact to his/their credit, if you don't like what is being said? Stop giving feeding them ammunition. I'd hate global ooc if I was you also, but you seem to enjoy using it despite your guild leader's demands. EverQuest is (well should be) a game with a persistent world of usually about 2k-5k players and reputations matter. There's no queueing up for dungeon finder or being some random lvl 80 that zoomed up in a week and a half. You and the officers in your guild have gone to absolutely great lengths to embarass yourselves, especially in the event where that nasty ole Uthgaard reared his head and spelled out histories of my "favorite" people in it.

I even went so far to CLEAR Arzak's name in my little "novel length" PSA. It's a shame he doesn't just come out and say what happened so we can move on. Maybe he enjoys so much flaming pitch being hurled at the staff in general for his actions in exchange for Nizzar's defense. Or maybe he's just trying to be a "good guildie".... conflict of interest alert.

[Nirgon]

Rogean already said it was done unintentionally. And yes, six AoN's being handed out on a server that had three total is more damaging than one trakanon gut.

Shoulda removed AoN's along with all of the other epic pieces. I remain firm in that assertation.

PS: Don't tell me it was "oh just one Trakanon gut". Would day 1 epic completions be too complex to query? Not sure what's logged and what isn't... often surprised what is.

[heartbrand]

Day 1 Epic Completion: Paladin Epic... that's it, because it's an incredibly easy epic due to the fact you can complete the biggest component prior to Kunark. Keep on hatin tho pal.

[Nirgon]

You get that Ton Po put in game yet Mr. Super Lawyer?

[heartbrand]

I stand by my assertion that if one was placed on blue and not retro removed, one should be put on red. I also think they should've ran the mayong mistmoore event here as well like they did on blue.

[Nirgon]

It should be removed from blue.

Mayong would have been cool. Maybe Sirken can do it here, good idea for an event.

[heartbrand]

It's my opinion things like that should be equal between both servers /shrug. they did the LR event on blue for example, so I thought they should've done it here as well.

[Nirgon]

Something being screwed up on blue doesn't make it OK here.

Stop using that defense, the lot of you.

[SamwiseRed]

i hope more guises aons are handed out at events. at least guises for sure. alot of people come here for classic experience late to the party, they shouldnt be punished for this.

[Nizzarr]

saw my name as I was skewing tru all the posts, gotta make a pity reply.

[PvpChampIronLion]

iron lion exposed nihilum corruption. amelindas corruption. and arzaks,

id also like to go on the note as being the first to say...

YALL *****S STILL PLAYING HARDCORE on a DEAD / CORRUPT PVP SERVER.

nothing gonna change.

Heartbrand still crazy as fuck,
Arzak / troriste still be cheating to live it up big in a fantasy realm
and over half the server has no idea how corrupt it is.

Wipe or burn it down. 200 peoples dying social lives may see a resurgence

[Nirgon]

Saw Nizz post in this thread

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=520701&highlight=lucky#post520701

Pity reminder

[Handpartytowel]

lol at the server staff member trollborn raging in that thread

[Tomatoking]

iron lion exposed nihilum corruption. amelindas corruption. and arzaks,

id also like to go on the note as being the first to say...

YALL *****S STILL PLAYING HARDCORE on a DEAD / CORRUPT PVP SERVER.

nothing gonna change.

Heartbrand still crazy as fuck,
Arzak / troriste still be cheating to live it up big in a fantasy realm
and over half the server has no idea how corrupt it is.

Wipe or burn it down. 200 peoples dying social lives may see a resurgence

still iron like a lion in zion

keeping it real