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gotrocks2
02-12-2013, 06:15 AM
Which vanilla wow server has the highest average population?

Looking for blizlike servers - 1x xp rates, drop rates, etc.

Right now it looks like emerald dream, but even that isnt that populated (i don't think anyway).

Sort of casually interested in playing Wow again, but only vanilla (hate all xpacs with a passion). As a bonus, my gf is really interested in playing (she doesn't like EQ that much. tried playing my ench fora while but just found it got too boring for her).

Whatchall think? Is ED the best one out there right now, or am i missing something?

Diggles 2.0
02-12-2013, 03:24 PM
ED is the best out there atm, I know there's a p99 guild that raids pretty hard-core.

nilbog
02-12-2013, 03:51 PM
I tried the Emerald Dream server and it seemed quite live-like. It's not as classic as I had hoped since it operates on the 1.12.1 patch instead of pure vanilla release. I.E, as a druid, hurricane isn't a talent point at the bottom of the balance tree but merely a spell. I believe they are doing everything up until the burning crusade expansion.

Population seems okay.. but it doesn't support the reason I wanted to try it. I wanted to get a reasonable level, be able to quickly join a pvp game, and log off. Or, join massive world pvp like Southshore vs Tauren Mill battles. It appears there isn't any world pvp and bgs are limited. There are battleground queue announcements that go off when a game starts and I have never seen one not for 60s. Whether it is due to population or people not signing up to pvp, I'm unsure.

Oh yeah, it's buggy. I fully understand that as it's an emulator. For a classic wow server, I think it is fine. I have never tried another wow emulator though.

Diggles 2.0
02-12-2013, 04:08 PM
There's a couple of really good WoW emulators, but they're all either current expac or one expac behind.

Diggles 2.0
02-12-2013, 05:41 PM
come play live broheim

http://i.imgur.com/MRcaIGL.jpg

Daliant17447
02-12-2013, 06:54 PM
I imagine live WoW these days to be as terrible as live EQ. Pandas are the shit and all but really have no place as an MMO playable character.

Diggles 2.0
02-12-2013, 06:56 PM
I imagine live WoW these days to be as terrible as live EQ. Pandas are the shit and all but really have no place as an MMO playable character.

the scaling is out of hand but the game itself is pretty fun. I'd rate it BCish~

The pandas fit okay into the lore but I want some more burning legion content

Autotune
02-12-2013, 07:17 PM
don't you owe me some gold!?

Diggles 2.0
02-12-2013, 07:30 PM
don't you owe me some gold!?

log on sometime tonight and i'll send u some~

Swish
02-12-2013, 08:03 PM
Still can't believe they put pandas in, other than to intentionally kill a MMO off in order to replace it with something else...or tap into the market for even younger kids to play than the teenagers of vanilla.

Swish
02-12-2013, 09:43 PM
ya because using a race from warcraft 3 is killing off the game etc etc etc heard it all before

You love the BF3 expansions, you love pandas in WoW... you're quite the jigsaw puzzle Diggles...

There were better race choices than pandas to do kung fu with...

katrik
02-13-2013, 01:49 AM
Molten is ok.. however it felt like alot of nostalgic quests were very buggy, and it kind of ruined the experience for me. Where it did shine for me, however, was the pvp. They had two pvp servers and it was very easy to log on and jump into the action.. alot of fun. Thats my pvp time wasting emu. I would also like to say that there is donor rewards, which is of course retarded and probably illegal.

Kevynne
02-13-2013, 03:09 AM
Firesquare is a good emulator, even though theyre coding for cataclysm now.

I played wow live a month or so ago.. quit after a week. I leveled 6 toons to 50-60 and the pandas and pandaria are just. terrible.

gotrocks
02-13-2013, 03:44 AM
come play live broheim

http://i.imgur.com/MRcaIGL.jpg

i caaaaannnt

i just cant get into going thru all the xpacs and up to 90. plus, im cheap and i hate paying monthlys (it makes me feel like i have to play and it becomes a chore)

Im actually having a decent time on ED, rocking a lvl 10 druid and loving that its (close to) vanilla.

Bardalicious
02-15-2013, 03:31 AM
http://www.therebirth.net/

Closest to live-like vanilla wow you'll find. Not sure what the pop is like there any more, it didn't pull numbers like Molten due to classic 1x rates and no donor rewards. But the owner/dev is awesome and the server was always stable.

Scriptcraft was fun while it lasted. Not quite as accurate in terms of scripting, but the pop was 1k+ for awhile. Tons of BG's all day + world PVP (AQ gate opening anyone?).

But then the owner turned out to be a money-grubbing bipolar asshat that shut it down, started it back up after taking a ton of donations, then shut it down again.

No others were worth playing on imo.

Clark
02-15-2013, 05:35 AM
no thx

gotrocks
02-15-2013, 05:39 AM
But then the owner turned out to be a money-grubbing bipolar asshat that shut it down, started it back up after taking a ton of donations, then shut it down again.

No others were worth playing on imo.

thats so lame. I had always wondered if stuff like that happened I guess I have my answer.

I realized while playing ED the other day that the pop. is actually pretty damn good - looks to be 300-400+ online at all times, more during peak, which is plenty for me.

From what i've been told they've also made significant progress in terms of having everything fixed up to vanilla wow levels. I'm pretty happy with ED atm. I may check out the others to take a look at the populations.

If anyone wants to join me (im lookin at you diggles!) im lvl 10 tauren druid, i can duo with any class and WRECK shit (i had a 60 druid, a 60 rogue, and a 60 fury - > prot spec warrior (fury till 60, then prot), im a pro at healing and will be spec'ing resto. Know hwo to play the class really well and IMO druids > priests in terms of... well... probably everything, except maybe spell dmg vs shadow priests.

Would be awesome to play with some p99'ers, since i know yall are gonna have skill (diggles!). IGN is gotheals (i think)

Taresh
02-15-2013, 05:46 AM
You love the BF3 expansions, you love pandas in WoW... you're quite the jigsaw puzzle Diggles...

There were better race choices than pandas to do kung fu with...

and you hate absolutely everything from what i've seen

what was the point of this post

Bardalicious
02-15-2013, 08:30 AM
If anyone wants to join me (im lookin at you diggles!) im lvl 10 tauren druid, i can duo with any class and WRECK shit (i had a 60 druid, a 60 rogue, and a 60 fury - > prot spec warrior (fury till 60, then prot), im a pro at healing and will be spec'ing resto.

Well I'd hope so. Any vanilla emu players will laugh in your face if you attempt to play anything but heals as druid. Though feral tank is great for 5-mans and flag carry.

As much fun as I had on scriptcraft, I can't bring myself to invest time in vanilla wow again after that server got bombed twice. Lost an MC/BWL geared druid the first server wipe. Lost an AQ geared mage + ironfoe warrior tank the second server wipe :mad:

gotrocks
02-15-2013, 08:43 AM
:( that sucks, would definitely play with you bard.

and yeah, resto druids are fucking godly in vanilla wow. IMO a well played resto druid can beat any class in pvp, period, and are PvE gods. They do everything - tank like a warrior (almost), dps like a rogue, and heal as well or better than a priest. Not only that, but in PvP they have an essentially endless pool of health. I was one of the best PvP rogues on my server during vanilla wow, rocking combat daggers spec (anyone who has seen this in action knows the dps in vanilla wow was absolutely insane, no other rogue spec even came closes... the white dmg spam alone would drop everything but a prot spec warrior), and druids were next to impossible to kill. They could take me out without even breaking a sweat (unless they were getting ganked in the field. Pretty much every class was unable to defend against a surprise attack in world pvp, they'd be dead before the stun lock wore off)

Taresh
02-15-2013, 01:39 PM
I played a Ret paladin in vanilla hahahahahaha No one gave a shit because I was a blessing bot

Breeziyo
02-15-2013, 05:41 PM
:( that sucks, would definitely play with you bard.

and yeah, resto druids are fucking godly in vanilla wow. IMO a well played resto druid can beat any class in pvp, period, and are PvE gods. They do everything - tank like a warrior (almost), dps like a rogue, and heal as well or better than a priest. Not only that, but in PvP they have an essentially endless pool of health. I was one of the best PvP rogues on my server during vanilla wow, rocking combat daggers spec (anyone who has seen this in action knows the dps in vanilla wow was absolutely insane, no other rogue spec even came closes... the white dmg spam alone would drop everything but a prot spec warrior), and druids were next to impossible to kill. They could take me out without even breaking a sweat (unless they were getting ganked in the field. Pretty much every class was unable to defend against a surprise attack in world pvp, they'd be dead before the stun lock wore off)

Implying the stun lock ever has to wear off.

Do you even roguecraft? I do that shit naked on vanilla servers.

Taresh
02-15-2013, 05:56 PM
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Kevynne
02-15-2013, 06:16 PM
firesquare pop is real low, 150 at peak time (8-10 pm CST) and basically there's 2 guilds that EVERYONE is in.

Karafa
02-17-2013, 01:47 AM
If youre looking for a working server with decent scripting, Valkyrie would be the only choice, but unfortunately it's Russian and sparcely populated in US times.

Emerald Dream was created by Feenix, it is a piece of shit. The only thing "Blizzlike" about it are the rates and lack of pay to win; which the other feenix servers thrive off of. I'm not going to list the plethora of broken things on ED, but you can check the bug tracker. You're still able to alt f4 through UBRS doors, wing buffet doesn't work, rag sons don't mana drain, etc.

Scriptcraft was the only server that had everything all working and unfortunately the dev cashed out with his donations. Apparently he's opening his third server, but I stopped caring about his work after he shut off his previous servers 5-6 months in.

World of Corecraft comes out March/April. Blizzlike scripting, nothing pay to win, optional instant level 58 with x1 or x2 exp. TBC server though, you might have to wait a good while for a decent tbc server.

Karafa
02-17-2013, 01:50 AM
Well I'd hope so. Any vanilla emu players will laugh in your face if you attempt to play anything but heals as druid. Though feral tank is great for 5-mans and flag carry.

As much fun as I had on scriptcraft, I can't bring myself to invest time in vanilla wow again after that server got bombed twice. Lost an MC/BWL geared druid the first server wipe. Lost an AQ geared mage + ironfoe warrior tank the second server wipe :mad:

Doubtful you were in Alixium, sc2 didn't even make it to AQ. Flaws in your story bro. If you even played on SC2 you'd know the servers greatest player was lord Blaze the Boomkin.

Breeziyo
02-17-2013, 07:18 PM
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Taresh
02-17-2013, 07:20 PM
i love roguecraft

Triangle
02-17-2013, 11:35 PM
Check out therebirth.net

Great pvp, fantastic scripting. MC + ZG is going strong on both ally/horde and BWL yet to be released.

gotrocks
02-18-2013, 03:40 AM
lol, that roguecraft video was such bs. I remember when it first came out there was a huge uproar to nerf rogues.

So stupid. Rogues were absolutely a super strong class, but they were far from invincible. There were plenty of people who could take down rogues if they knew what they were doing.

I will concede that cloth casters had literally zero chance to beat them though. Anyone in cloth would be dead before I could get 5 CP's from massive backstabs (fuck ambush) and insane amounts of damage from blade flurry (best part of blade flurry was transferring backstabs to two targets :))

Hailto
02-18-2013, 05:07 AM
I might check out rebirth for shits and giggles. I do miss MC and ZG sometimes, however i dunno if i really want to level to 60 again.

Taresh
02-18-2013, 05:18 AM
the best part of the roguecraft videos is the dude filming it taking out level 60s in full rogue starter gear.

reckful did something like it beating teams in arena with level 70 weapons

rsloans84
02-19-2013, 06:18 PM
I played bertox server spend my time exploring and hosting events and helping lowbies great times! - Attunement

Hailto
02-25-2013, 09:40 AM
Update- Rebirth is dead as fuck.

I now have a Human Mage on ED. What is this P99 raiding guild im hearing about?

Massive Marc
02-25-2013, 11:23 AM
playing on ED, on horde side. need pals to play with. Hit me up.

I'd consider rerolling alliance if the p99 guild is on that side.

Slowpoy
02-25-2013, 03:02 PM
https://www.wow-one.com/

Best side: Ally (last time i was on , 4-5 naxx guilds) while horde had 1 naxx guild.

Bardalicious
02-26-2013, 02:40 PM
Doubtful you were in Alixium, sc2 didn't even make it to AQ. Flaws in your story bro. If you even played on SC2 you'd know the servers greatest player was lord Blaze the Boomkin.

The fuck are you talking about? I played a gnome mage named Veeshan, and we certainly raided AQ. If you were even remotely valid to the SC scene, you'd have been in Silithus when over 400 people were in the zone for the event and the lag was at a good 4-5 minutes to cast/attack at one point. Tanks started the shit and got his scarab mount from it.

So again... who the fuck are you and how are you at all relevant?

Karafa
02-26-2013, 02:58 PM
I was Blaze buddy, you actually talked to me all the time, and joined only after Tanks drunkenly removed 20 people and we needed filllers.

Clearly you are uneducated on Scriptcraft. SC2 = Scriptcraft 2, which is what I stated did not make it to AQ. There is no where in my post that I stated SC1 was not a success nor that AQ did not happen.

Again, I was Blaze, Alixiums rogue officer, you were a 4th string mage behind memjutito and trilo.

Bardalicious
02-26-2013, 03:53 PM
I was Blaze buddy, you actually talked to me all the time, and joined only after Tanks drunkenly removed 20 people and we needed filllers.

Clearly you are uneducated on Scriptcraft. SC2 = Scriptcraft 2, which is what I stated did not make it to AQ. There is no where in my post that I stated SC1 was not a success nor that AQ did not happen.

Again, I was Blaze, Alixiums rogue officer, you were a 4th string mage behind memjutito and trilo.

What you suggested is that I didn't play on Scriptcraft. I played both SC1 and SC2. The difference between the two is a moot point. It was the SAME SERVER with a complete wipe done. If your ego could have gotten out of the way in favor of common sense, you'd have pieced together that an Alixium-guilded character would be in reference to the first, being that everyone scattered and no "solid" guild was ever reformed on the second.

After proving the fact that I was indeed on SC and did indeed raid AQ, you chose to attack me on my position in the guild? That's cool man. I didn't come back to vanilla to be a hardcore raider. And I'm pretty sure raiding AQ was the exact same for myself and Memjutito and Trilomia. Content isn't skewed by guild position. I'm also fairly certain I joined more Ventrilo pre-made PVP groups than both of them combined while I was in Alixium.

Face it dude, you called me out, I proved who I was, now you're grasping at straws in an attempt to save face :o

Relapse2
02-26-2013, 04:17 PM
playing on ED, on horde side. need pals to play with. Hit me up.

I'd consider rerolling alliance if the p99 guild is on that side.

http://rampage-guild.org/

mostly ex IB ..PErun leads it. Only US guild worth a damn on Alliance side

Massive Marc
02-27-2013, 03:23 PM
http://rampage-guild.org/

mostly ex IB ..PErun leads it. Only US guild worth a damn on Alliance side

need PL on alliance side !

Hailto
02-28-2013, 01:43 AM
Lets group up marc, my mage is level 8 atm. I mainly only play when nothing going down on blue.

Vaken
02-28-2013, 07:57 PM
I got a lv 7 Hunter Dwarf and lv 20 warrior.

Working on leveling hunter now.

kotton05
02-28-2013, 08:03 PM
which server is best ED?

Vaken
02-28-2013, 08:18 PM
ya, ED is best ive played on. Didnt like the pay to win servers like Molten and such

Relapse2
03-03-2013, 08:25 PM
Emerald Dream #1 Pop here is proof

http://i46.tinypic.com/sy2nnq.jpg

Swish
03-03-2013, 09:18 PM
If my laptop would run it (and I had the time), I'd definitely be all over it! Maybe this summer :)

Relapse2
03-03-2013, 09:27 PM
runs just fine on my laptop (a shitty Dell)

Loli Pops
03-03-2013, 10:24 PM
you will never see a truly classic wow server bros unless u travel back to 2004

roll on red for challenge

Hailto
03-04-2013, 12:07 AM
you will never see a truly classic wow server bros unless u travel back to 2004

roll on red for challenge

Jesus christ, you tards even spam WoW threads to try to get people to play your dead server.

Bardalicious
03-04-2013, 07:07 PM
The Rebirth is still as close to vanilla wow as you'll ever find.

baub
03-05-2013, 07:07 PM
The Rebirth is still as close to vanilla wow as you'll ever find.

If you're looking for a single player experience this would be the ideal server

Deverell
03-14-2013, 08:55 AM
lol, that roguecraft video was such bs. I remember when it first came out there was a huge uproar to nerf rogues.

So stupid. Rogues were absolutely a super strong class, but they were far from invincible. There were plenty of people who could take down rogues if they knew what they were doing.

I will concede that cloth casters had literally zero chance to beat them though. Anyone in cloth would be dead before I could get 5 CP's from massive backstabs (fuck ambush) and insane amounts of damage from blade flurry (best part of blade flurry was transferring backstabs to two targets :))

Some of the worst balance in MMORPG history remains hunter vs. rogue in the vanilla days. It was pretty literally unwinnable for the rogue. I remember how it was entirely possible for a level 40 hunter to kill a level 60 rogue. If you couldn't catch the hunter unaware and stunlock him to death (which you generally couldn't, it's a mail class with fairly high hp and a stun-breaking PvP trinket) then it was auto-loss. Hunter's mark, freeze trap, run to max range, conc shot, kite until dead. If at any point the rogue pops sprint to try and catch up, run away with cheetah; max range ensured that the rogue wouldn't catch hunter because sprint would wear off before reaching melee/blind range if hunter ran with cheetah. Hunters had a counter to literally every single thing rogues had, it was the only seriously unwinnable matchup I can remember in any modern-ish MMORPG. The only comparable thing would be EQ PvP with shit like bards being completely untouchable outdoors.

Besides the hunter autoloss problem, rogue power dropped steeply once most people started having 4k+ hp. When you could no longer kill somebody quickly or in an unbroken stunlock, there wasn't very much left. You spent your energy, brought the guy down to like 40%, and then you got fearkited or CCed or warrior-bursted to death without much of a chance. Rogues were incredibly overpowered for the first months when people had shit gear and you could two-shot casters, but once it was fairly normal to have full epic gear and PvP sets, rogues started to have more classes they couldn't beat than classes they had the upper hand against. Any healer could out-sustain you, any druid could hop into bear form and just maul you to death (I routinely beat epic rogues on my level 55 feral druid), shadow priests would dot you and laugh while they tanked you, warriors would bend you over and anally rape you with 2k MS/overpower crits and 1k white crits. Mages would instagib you, warlocks would fearkite you forever. Towards the end of vanilla, rogues were closer to the bottom of the totem pole than the top, and then Blizzard turned it into the control class that it has been ever since.

mostbitter
03-14-2013, 12:03 PM
emerald dream is ok but it cant handle the population and crashes all the time, the staff seems massively overwhelmed as well. my rogue poison quest fucked up and i never got a response until i quit at 50

Noselacri
03-15-2013, 03:30 AM
ED is a Feenix server. They're pretty much the worst WoW emus ever.

ihcTactics
06-14-2013, 06:04 PM
Necro Threading. So I played on SC2 for a little while and enjoyed it more than any other vanilla server I played on. I didn't get far into raiding cause RL issues, but I'm wondering what people have found as good replacements.

I want a server I can join, level up decently and have a solid chance at raiding. Not a server where there's 2-3 guilds, all full on raiders and I'll just sit in IF for 2 hours LFG for anything above level 53.

Millburn
06-15-2013, 11:57 AM
I started up a human warlock named Dainslaif if anybody wants to play on ED