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Shinzu
02-10-2013, 05:59 PM
Hi all,

Just curioius, I have heard that two Wurmslayers were the best end game raid/group dps for a warrior (outside of VP). Has anyone parsed different options? Is there a different combination that would be better? Has anyone tried Edge of the Nightwalker or Jagged Sword ? Thanks.

Vadd
02-10-2013, 07:24 PM
i believe wurmy has a very slight ratio advantage over Edge, but its all about SPEED in your mainhand...... or just go 2H.

Splorf22
02-10-2013, 07:50 PM
The Wurmslayer is getting nerfed soon anyway. The best I can think of is Feverblade/Shissar.

heartbrand
02-10-2013, 07:57 PM
dual wurmies it's not even close they exceed even VP weapons

Tippett
02-10-2013, 08:42 PM
dual wurmies it's not even close they exceed even VP weapons

SamwiseRed
02-10-2013, 08:54 PM
dual wurmies is pretty hilarious :)

pharmakos
02-11-2013, 03:49 PM
you definitely want something faster than a wurmie in your mainhand.

heartbrand
02-11-2013, 05:51 PM
you definitely want something faster than a wurmie in your mainhand.

dumb, ignore this guy, I top parses in VP guild on red, WS beats everything in game, I beat rogues when I use precision easily

Splorf22
02-11-2013, 08:09 PM
Wurmslayer is 25/40, a ratio of 0.62, while Sword of the Shissar is 14/23, a ratio of 0.61. Considering that it is twice as fast, it should just be better in the primary. And lets not even mention Feverblade, 11/18 is also 0.61 and you're getting twice as many damage bonus ticks. How about you try parsing both?

Wurmslayer is godly in the offhand though.

edit: it's also interesting that you top the parses, that means you aren't tanking =D

SamwiseRed
02-11-2013, 09:43 PM
HB isnt allowed to tank

Shinzu
02-12-2013, 11:35 AM
I don't have access to VP weapons, so duel Wurmys it is ! Thanks guys.

bouncerr 2.0
02-12-2013, 03:19 PM
Dual wurmy's was pretty bad in my experience as a 60 ogre war. When I parsed 2 wurmys vs seb sword mainhand 10/21 and snare whip 14/28 my dps was much better until zerker. Once I hit zerker I was getting nice crips but it didnt make up for it by that much and aggro was horrible, honestly I remember it being even during zerker and less not zerker than seb sword and snare whip.

But that was with me soloing and tanking the mobs in KC. Is a really slow combo but if you like big hits, go for it. I didn't like the results, expected much more. Sold it the next day.

theaetatus
02-12-2013, 03:28 PM
Wurmslayer just isn't good dps in Main hand. With the damage bonus of 11 at 60 (if I recall correctly), it works out to a 36/40 weapon. Compare this to a Lamentation for example, which becomes a 20/19 weapon.

You will get some big hits with dual wurmslayers, but you'll do more damage with a faster weapon in the main hand.

heartbrand
02-12-2013, 04:39 PM
lol ok, I parse all our VP fights, dual wurmy parses higher than anything

heartbrand
02-12-2013, 04:53 PM
I more than double the DPS with dual WS of the other warriors in VP who use malevolent runeblade and sword of the shissar

Vayder
02-12-2013, 05:39 PM
I more than double the DPS with dual WS of the other warriors in VP who use malevolent runeblade and sword of the shissar

Then something is wrong with the accuracy of your parses or the game mechanics and I'd imagine it's the former.

Are you certain you're stacked close enough to the other warriors throughout the fights to register all of their melee damage?

heartbrand
02-12-2013, 05:48 PM
Yes, wurmslayers currently are getting damage bonus for the delay which should only apply to two handers.

heartbrand
02-12-2013, 05:51 PM
Wurmslayer just isn't good dps in Main hand. With the damage bonus of 11 at 60 (if I recall correctly), it works out to a 36/40 weapon. Compare this to a Lamentation for example, which becomes a 20/19 weapon.

You will get some big hits with dual wurmslayers, but you'll do more damage with a faster weapon in the main hand.

This is incorrect from my test. You do +11 damage to your hit not +11 damage applied to your main hand weapon. When I attack a sitting target with my main hand WS I did 153, with my off hand I did 142.

Splorf22
02-12-2013, 06:02 PM
This is incorrect from my test. You do +11 damage to your hit not +11 damage applied to your main hand weapon. When I attack a sitting target with my main hand WS I did 153, with my off hand I did 142.

Your two previous posts just contradicted themselves. a 40 delay 2H would have a damage bonus of 17-18 or so, not 11.

heartbrand
02-12-2013, 08:24 PM
I'm talking about two separate issues. There's the delay bonus which is meant to be only for two handers, but for some reason here applies to all weapons, that's across the board. Then, there's the +11 damage to your main hand, but it's to the damage done not to the weapon damage.

theaetatus
02-12-2013, 09:32 PM
What you're seeing in your sitting tests is as I described... main hand does 11 dmg more.

This 'delay bonus' you're talking about is just 2h weapons having a damage bonus based on delay, which apparently isn't happening as you're seeing a 11 damage bonus.

pharmakos
02-13-2013, 03:44 AM
Yes, wurmslayers currently are getting damage bonus for the delay which should only apply to two handers.

not that i disbelieve this guy, but this is the sort of thing that could use verifying from a second person. anyone?

awesome if dual wurmslayers is working out better than anything else, but that does go contrary to the currently understood game mechanics. sorry for questioning if you are indeed correct, sir :)

RahlaeRuffian
02-13-2013, 01:54 PM
I've seen some warriors go into beast mode under 40% with 2 Wurmy's. I prefer Staff of Battle though.