Get rid of /ooc

[Tr0llb0rn]

Its now causing far more harm then good. Its time to put this non-classic thing in its grave.

The screenshots of /ooc I have saved would melt the eyes of the most jaded members of the commuity. With the pop around 150ish now, its worse then ever.

End it, lets get back to classic.

[fiegi 2.5]

nothing this guy says can be taken seriously, he bounces between like 3 different forum names to get a different points across, not to mention his developer name.

[BigSlip]

nothing this guy says can be taken seriously, he bounces between like 3 different forum names to get a different points across, not to mention his developer name.

quoted for truth


terrible dev

[BigSlip]

worst dev to grace the web

[Zade]

If we remove /ooc, then what else am I going to read while at stare at all your petitions and laugh while not answering them? mwuahaha

[BigSlip]

If we remove /ooc, then what else am I going to read while at stare at all your petitions and laugh while not answering them? mwuahaha

atleast hes honest

[SamwiseRed]

remove OOC, it was put in when pop was sub 30s. now that we are constantly in the triple digits there is no need for it. please remove this feature as it is doing more harm than good like sundawg says. not taking anyones side other than my own and honestly global ooc is shit now.

[BigSlip]

better fucking put in yt then

and samwise just drop it you dont play anymore, you wouldnt have a clue. youre starting to get annoying.

[watbab]

take out global OOC

put in YT

[SamwiseRed]

ive never been one to kiss ass and take sides. when people started talking about other peoples kids i drew the line. i forget who it was but talking about kids giving blowjobs isnt entertaining at the very least. i am 100% positive it is having more of a negative impact on the server pop than positive. if you cant see it then you are most likely part of the problem. if this annoys you then sorry, deal with it.

[Rushmore]

/ooc is the right to free speech turn it off if you dont agree.

[Cwall 52.0]

keep global /ooc

add yt

[Itap]

If we remove /ooc, then what else am I going to read while at stare at all your petitions and laugh while not answering them? mwuahaha

da fuck?

[Dullah]

Needs to be 5 minute cool down on OOC.

[BigSlip]

ive never been one to kiss ass and take sides. when people started talking about other peoples kids i drew the line. i forget who it was but talking about kids giving blowjobs isnt entertaining at the very least. i am 100% positive it is having more of a negative impact on the server pop than positive. if you cant see it then you are most likely part of the problem. if this annoys you then sorry, deal with it.

what the fuckin hell are you talking about



lmao

[BigSlip]

also ftr i hardly speak in ooc

but dont take it away


if you do add yt or im gonna train newbies


i got like 5 accounts i dont give a shit!

[Labanen]

remove OOC, it was put in when pop was sub 30s. now that we are constantly in the triple digits there is no need for it. please remove this feature as it is doing more harm than good like sundawg says. not taking anyones side other than my own and honestly global ooc is shit now.take away the trolls very own playground, global ooc, it has no purpose and does alot of harm.

[Nizzarr]

I thought global ooc was added with the intent of helping people group/sell stuff.

Should be a limit of 1 ooc per 2 minute or 5 minute. No one wanna listen to "u mad" going back and forth every half second.

[Dacuk]

Add YT... easiest improvement that could possibly exist.

Yes, would be nice to have an OOC cooldown or something, there are a lotta dumb faggots that need to be silenced. I think global ooc is necessary, but we need some way of preventing the fuckfaces from ruining it for everyone.

[Tr0llb0rn]

blue99 does just fine without /ooc

I would gladly give up /ooc for YT by the way.

edit: I wanted to add, there have been some players from blue that have come over but then left again and specifically said global /ooc detracted too much from their EQ experience to stay.

[SamwiseRed]

ye remove global ooc, put in YT

[SamwiseRed]

pretty sure they all went back to blue for epics. also guard assist griefed a good 200 or so.

[Sickpuppy]

If we remove /ooc, then what else am I going to read while at stare at all your petitions and laugh while not answering them? mwuahaha

Lol

[aborted]

OOC is great for trading and passing time while lvling, don't remove please.

[InfamousTaco]

I don't see what the problem is.

http://i.imgur.com/igUJq3S.jpg

[Tippett]

I think more of the northwest child sex spam thing is the issue

[fiegi 2.5]

resist magic in the 3rd slot

http://www.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/o-face-taylor-swift-th.jpg

[Feniggles]

take out global OOC

put in YT


+1

[Crypodosktorr]

Global ooc is necessary for grouping and selling. Especially for us lower players that can't solo well. I believe a cool down of 5 minutes per ooc message would solve the problems. Please leave global ooc in. For the aspiring non-twink player. It is necessary to find groups. Our pop is low.

[Tradesonred]

Global ooc is necessary for grouping and selling. Especially for us lower players that can't solo well. I believe a cool down of 5 minutes per ooc message would solve the problems. Please leave global ooc in. For the aspiring non-twink player. It is necessary to find groups. Our pop is low.

Thats about right, a timer on OOC messages would solve everybodys problem

[heartbrand]

Thats about right, a timer on OOC messages would solve everybodys problem

[Tr0llb0rn]

There now seems to be a number of longtime veterans of the server that are getting suspended because of things said in /ooc.

/ooc is now hurting the server from both ends. Driving new players away and driving old players away (via bans and suspensions).

Its just not worth it. This kind of damage to the server is NOT worth keeping this 100percent non-classic "feature" on the server.

End it. Give us equality with blue99, remove this non-classic abomination.

[Tippett]

Just give it a very long cool down, it's essential for grouping or commerce on such a log pop server

[Tradesonred]

There now seems to be a number of longtime veterans of the server that are getting suspended because of things said in /ooc.

/ooc is now hurting the server from both ends. Driving new players away and driving old players away (via bans and suspensions).

Its just not worth it. This kind of damage to the server is NOT worth keeping this 100percent non-classic "feature" on the server.

End it. Give us equality with blue99, remove this non-classic abomination.

Who gives a shit if its classic or not, there is plenty of non-classic things on server. As long as its somewhat classic...

We know you dont care because you have a huge pool of players to play with in your zerg guild, but as its been pointed out, its an advantage that new players dont get.

Beside being pwned non-stop by twinks who cant lose their gear, the 2nd most bad thing i can think of that would make a new person quit the server would be to make it really hard on them to find groups to play with.

[Yagebasto]

If we remove /ooc, then what else am I going to read while at stare at all your petitions and laugh while not answering them? mwuahaha

glad to know this, ty

[Tr0llb0rn]

Who gives a shit if its classic or not, there is plenty of non-classic things on server. As long as its somewhat classic...

We know you dont care because you have a huge pool of players to play with in your zerg guild, but as its been pointed out, its an advantage that new players dont get.

Beside being pwned non-stop by twinks who cant lose their gear, the 2nd most bad thing i can think of that would make a new person quit the server would be to make it really hard on them to find groups to play with.

Newsflash: no one is grouping at the low levels. Grouping is much worse xp then solo and low level xp is so redonk ezmode on this server that you are level 20 after the first evening.

Red Herring.

Get rid of /ooc, its hurting the server pop badly. And now adding a TON more work for CS as the server has now decended into petition quest against each other with /ooc chat on 24/7 screenshot hotkey.

End it. None of this is worth keeping this non-classic "feature".

[fiegi 2.5]

why not just post under sundawg?

[BigSlip]

I don't see what the problem is.

http://i.imgur.com/igUJq3S.jpg

level 60 druid puts on skin like diamond

saidin you really are the worst player on red

[Jenni D]

why not just post under sundawg?

[MC Epic]

why not just post under sundawg?

[Tradesonred]

level 60 druid puts on skin like diamond

saidin you really are the worst player on red

Ok so one person abuses OOC so then we should remove it?

I hear mages can bolt through walls, we should remove bolts i say

Trollborn is being idiotic, i did maybe 50/50 of my grind solo, because even though i knew it was faster, its 10X more boring to solo.

And its a huge ass grind, who the fuck beside people like trollborn would want to roll through that shit solo and on top of that, no OOC to shoot the shit with people to help with the boredom.

Just stating that it will take me 70 hours to grind 55 to 59 solo made me think twice about logging in, one day after a 2 month break

Its not like people are going to pvp for fun to cut through boredom with the terribad xp loss mechanic anyway

[MC Epic]

level 60 druid puts on skin like diamond

saidin you really are the worst player on red

He was using Diamond because this is a very old screenshot; had to dig deep for this one!

[Tr0llb0rn]

And its a huge ass grind, who the fuck beside people like trollborn would want to roll through that shit solo and on top of that, no OOC to shoot the shit with people to help with the boredom.



You for one, seeing how you soloed your whole way through the 50's while the server's melees were begging you for groups.

gogo flat rate xp bonus.

/ooc "was" for grouping. Instead you revealed what its for in your own post, trolling in /ooc while you solo.

Want to socialize? Group and talk to your groupmates or guildmates.

So another benefit of removing /ooc: more people WILL GROUP since soloing (like tradesonred did for most of his eq life) will be devoid of any human contact.

All the more reason to remove unclassic /ooc.

Do it.

[SamwiseRed]

how is trollborn the only one that gets it?

[fiegi 2.5]

his words might be read/cared about if he just switched forum names

even rogaine said do whatever the fuck u want to trollborn hes a scumlord a few months abck

[Nirgon]

Please take ooc out so people stop talking globally (Norrath luls) about Nihilum's training and cheating. They are trying to recruit. Come on guys.

[Tradesonred]

You for one, seeing how you soloed your whole way through the 50's while the server's melees were begging you for groups.

gogo flat rate xp bonus.

/ooc "was" for grouping. Instead you revealed what its for in your own post, trolling in /ooc while you solo.

Want to socialize? Group and talk to your groupmates or guildmates.

So another benefit of removing /ooc: more people WILL GROUP since soloing (like tradesonred did for most of his eq life) will be devoid of any human contact.

All the more reason to remove unclassic /ooc.

Do it.

i didnt say it was for trolling you fucking moron, i said shoot the shit. Just talk about stuff/games/whatever while you are soloing.

Its ironic that you put words in my mouth about using OOC to troll in the same text that you are trolling about me not grouping. I grouped alot on my way up to my 50s... Even post-50, i spent alot of time grouping in CoM 51-53

Its pretty clear at this point trollborn that you are a dishonest scumbag who will lie and hyperbole to try to get what you want.

[tehruoh]

level 60 druid puts on skin like diamond

saidin you really are the worst player on red

in his defense its a clicky on his legs if i recall correctly used to heal himself mana free. great for powerlevelling and when hiding in pvp medding up.

[Tippett]

Tr0llb0rn is right A+

[Supreme]

i didnt say it was for trolling you fucking moron, i said shoot the shit. Just talk about stuff/games/whatever while you are soloing.

Its ironic that you put words in my mouth about using OOC to troll in the same text that you are trolling about me not grouping. I grouped alot on my way up to my 50s... Even post-50, i spent alot of time grouping in CoM 51-53

Its pretty clear at this point trollborn that you are a dishonest scumbag who will lie and hyperbole to try to get what you want.

this guy gettin mad..

[Tradesonred]

this guy gettin mad..

Part of pop is mentally inbred, cant deviate from "u mad" mental pattern.

[Malevz]

Was always against this, it's just a cesspool of whining and bitching. I've had four friends try the server, 3 of them said all the bullshit brought back classic memories, just not the good ones

[Bronkus]

Get rid of OOC. +1

[SamwiseRed]

ooc was for when it was just me, tune, and batlle playing. its not needed now.

[Nirgon]

Can't really be listening to people who train, (insert bannable offense for mentioning here) and exploit on what they think is best for the server.

Too much history of trying to subvert server rules / staff for their own gains.

Sorry!

[InfamousTaco]

level 60 druid puts on skin like diamond

saidin you really are the worst player on red

Hahahaha.

Learn what your talking about before you critique my screenshots.

[Rettii]

I don't see what the problem is.

http://i.imgur.com/igUJq3S.jpg

I think hes talking about the fact that your a level 60 druid with diamond skin from clicking your legs, not to mention the fact that you buried bladecoat the most important buff of all

your full hp and full mana hovering over some water, what part needs to be understood?

[fiegi 2.5]

resist magic slot 3

blade coat slot 10

[Rettii]

resist magic slot 3

blade coat slot 10

i was just thinking, "..2 pumices"

[Nirgon]

No jboots

[Smedy]

slathar doing what he can do spice up this slow as fuck grind, why you hatin?

what this server needs is yellow text

[Nirgon]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/269/272/e61.jpg

[Cwall 52.0]

I don't see what the problem is.

http://i.imgur.com/igUJq3S.jpg

o my god those buffs

THAT is the problem

[Rettii]

big shoutout to salem and brainz the ranger for making the page 1 hotkey bar

[Nirgon]

^ HEH HEH HEH HEH

[InfamousTaco]

Maybe one day when Rettiwalk or Nirgon decide to stop running away and fight, you'll make the target hotkeys too.

[Rettii]

big shoutout to salem and brainz the ranger for making the page 1 hotkey bar

^ HEH HEH HEH HEH

[Nirgon]

Maybe one day when Rettiwalk or Nirgon decide to stop running away and fight, you'll make the target hotkeys too.

Twainz gated from me on your druid after being unable to save Gream. Action 60 wiz gated from me as well after failing to gank me porting in to WC.

You are welcome to come take a swing any time you like.

[Shrubwise]

Needs to be 5 minute cool down on OOC.

The best of both worlds. We keep global OOC; people use it for what it's meant for: finding groups & auctioning items.

[Nirgon]

Or just take it away from people that abuse it...

[Handpartytowel]

game mechanic solution always better than gm intervention solution imo. short timeout not a bad idea.

YT talks for itself.

[nabsev]

YT talks for itself.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Or just take it away from people that abuse it...

So you are in favor of this non-classic feature?

I see.

[Nirgon]

I'd prefer it was completely removed, yes.

The rest of the community and staff will be in force for keeping it in, regardless of my opinion.

Merely trying to reach a compromise and I understand why you don't want it in (see recent episodes with Bronkus lol and Tune, owner of a previously banned account for exploiting, who got a reduced suspension).

You might want to take this to PMs or tells in game, bub.

[InfamousTaco]

Twainz gated from me on your druid after being unable to save Gream. Action 60 wiz gated from me as well after failing to gank me porting in to WC.

You are welcome to come take a swing any time you like.

I will dawg. I will.

[Holey]

Twainz gated from me on your druid after being unable to save Gream. Action 60 wiz gated from me as well after failing to gank me porting in to WC.

You are welcome to come take a swing any time you like.

when it was a full group? thats cool. 5 v 1 thats cool.

[Nirgon]

The only 2 people in Nektulos were the two of us (presuming you are Twainz above) when you ran off the first time.

Come see me in game =).

Still looking for item loot to be implemented.

[Yertandus]

I agree. remove global ooc and maybe add YT. global ooc sucks and is not classic and is full of barrens chat. this ez mode retooled xp garbage sucks also. i dont care how hard it is, the game is supposed to be hard, thats why im playing it :( call me a masochist

[Handpartytowel]

im probably going to call you under level 51

[Sektor]

I don't see what the problem is.

http://i.imgur.com/igUJq3S.jpg



lmfao

[Wamorn]

You mean Slathar isnt on your ignore list?

[nilbog]

My opinion is the same as it was for the pve server: Get rid of global ooc. It empowers idiocy.

Yellow text, as I have stated multiple times, should be given a trial implementation. If everyone likes it, great.

[heartbrand]

My opinion is the same as it was for the pve server: Get rid of global ooc. It empowers idiocy.

Yellow text, as I have stated multiple times, should be given a trial implementation. If everyone likes it, great.

[Cwall 52.0]

My opinion is the same as it was for the pve server: Get rid of global ooc. It empowers idiocy.

Yellow text, as I have stated multiple times, should be given a trial implementation. If everyone likes it, great.

nilbog

pls

pls

[Rettii]

Yellow text, great.

all i saw

[Nirgon]

Nilbog 100% right on this one pals.

[Rushmore]

If you can put someone using /ooc ignore. Or each player has the option to turn it off what is the big deal? If you don't like it turn it off.

Why take away something that some of us like?

[nabsev]

You dare stand against YT, scumbag?

[Nirgon]

Or make auction global and people using it for purposes other than selling items get a beating.. new players might still have trouble w/ groups. Limiting it probably best till we get near the 300 pop marker.

[SamwiseRed]

My opinion is the same as it was for the pve server: Get rid of global ooc. It empowers idiocy.

Yellow text, as I have stated multiple times, should be given a trial implementation. If everyone likes it, great.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq2u0cmb2s1qii6tmo1_500.gif

[Shrubwise]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq2u0cmb2s1qii6tmo1_500.gif

[Kraz]

You guys are fucking morons. If you do not like ooc make a window filter ooc to it and hide it off your screen dip shits.

[NotSmedy]

Don't feed the trolls

[s1ckness]

If we remove /ooc, then what else am I going to read while at stare at all your petitions and laugh while not answering them? mwuahaha

lets not forget that the server population has gone up a lot also with ooc in

[s1ckness]

also, when will they add the YT they have been testing out?

[NotSmedy]

Fun fact, everyone who says global ooc is shit is either:

1. Non factor nihilum drone that logs in to raid and get ++++ dkp
2. Doesn't even play or fakenicks on the forums scared as fuk.
3. Read the 2 above.

You don't see me talking much in ooc, but i read it, and i enjoy it. If you feel shit's unclassic and you want to jerk off with sandpaper while you listen to windtunnel.wav go ahead and mute the out of character chat completely.

[NotSmedy]

Damn dog you got a circlet of shadows? You must be really good at the everquesting broseph

Protip: don't gamble, you're bad at it

[Tr0llb0rn]

My opinion is the same as it was for the pve server: Get rid of global ooc. It empowers idiocy.

Yellow text, as I have stated multiple times, should be given a trial implementation. If everyone likes it, great.

/agree


You mean Slathar isnt on your ignore list?

Well the thing about Slathar (and many other 24/7 /ooc trolls) is they get on various alts to continue the /ooc spam. So /ignore wont save you from it and new players are poisoned by it before they even know what /ignore is.

Here he is on an alt going on and on for 15+ mins about:

"Arzak has access to all player logs and knows where everyones bind points are"
"He is a GM that can summon items at will and does for REAL MONEY TRADE"
"He has access to all respawn timers"
"He uses his "GM Powers" to cheat as much as possible and uses them to cheat and RMT"

etc.etc.etc. As I said he went on forever with this garbage over and over in /ooc I have more screenshots and it get worse.


http://i47.tinypic.com/apbjmr.jpg

This is what /ooc is about these days, its the latest weapon in the hands of the "burn it down" crowd to drive players away. What are new players going to think when they log in and see this kind of stuff wash over their chat screens constantly?

We should foster a more immersive enviornment, /ooc directly works against that immersive enviornment.

[karsten]

how is it knowing that zero people take you seriously?

[Tr0llb0rn]

how is it knowing that zero people take you seriously?

If you mean zeros, like you, then im 100 percent fine with that :)

[Littlegyno 9.0]

It's good to see Squire Tyrionn Lannister in the forums like this.

PRAISE EMPEROR HEARTBRAND.

[Nirgon]

You need to stop with this Trollborn shit if you want that to stop dude.

As Nilbog puts it, you're empowering idiocy.

In fact, no one would have put this together if you hadn't gone on the rampage you did in the first place.

A lot of people here are willing to drop the past and let the BS go if the exploiting finally stops and you stop blowing up shit messes with that forum account.

[fiegi 2.5]

ephi is not online at this time
zade is not online at this time
sirken is not online at this time

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd294/Ohiocruffler/SNITCHES-GET-STITCHES.jpg

[mostbitter]

You know another way to make sure Slathar doesn't do things like that in OOC? Don't supply him with so much ammunition. If there is a member of the staff that is not trusted by the community than this is what is going to be said about them. Whether it is Slathar in OOC or many other people privately, and in other mediums of communication. It's not like Slathar was letting anyone in on a big secret.

In closing I'll remind you that you have a reputation based off your previous actions. Don't expect that removing everyone who knows about it is going to change that if your actions remain as suspicious.

[heartbrand]

I posted bug reports before and if I was able to do so I would help code the fixes, guess that means I can't play here and am jeopardizing the project, lulz logic here.

[Nirgon]

Things like training people and lying about it so effortlessly that its comical is bad. Getting 3-4 days instead of the promised 2 weeks suspension is worse. Mostbitter put it well.

[Shrubwise]

Less @@
More PvP

/thread

[fiegi 2.5]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85033

[QUOTE=Rogean;734611]If the guy was stupid enough to create troll accounts (I'm not putting effort into confirming it not), then he deserves whatever you guys throw back at him. If it turns out to be true, I won't ban anyone for "trolling him", the staff insult protection will not take effect as he can not simply hide under other forum accounts to hide his action. That would be absurd.


Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.
Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.
Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.
Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.


(EDITED FOR SENSITIVITY)

[Shrubwise]

Fiegi ban inc. save that language for RnF, Heathen!

[Nirgon]

Shrubwise, who are you in game pal

[heartbrand]

I know that 93% of the posters here are trolling for lulz, but for the 7% who aren't I'll post the following.

Sundawg makes classic code proposed changes that are then reviewed by Nilbog for approval. Nilbog makes the final call. Every single change he has proposed has been classic and needed. Who cares that he also plays? He has no access to any GM abilities, spawn timer information, anything that can even remotely help anyone on this server. If anything, because he is rumored to play here in the end game guild, he gains access to see game breaking bugs or exploits that other people would likely not bother reporting, <cough> TMO <cough>, such as the way too small Trakanon aggro range and the Chardok Royals. The proposed change to the Royals was finalized only a few days after we did them, a change that is certainly "detrimental" to ease but positive for the classic experience we are all here for. If not for his rumored presence in the end game guild here on Red, many of these bugs would never be fixed. I've still yet to see a single change he's made that isn't accurate or people are disputing.

As far as the other troll account made, the guy is trolling the trolls who don't play here and do nothing but bitch and cry on these forums 24/7 racking up more days played on the forums than some of the most active people in game. They contribute nothing except the same old rehashed one liners that weren't funny six years ago except to the other ten to twelve trolls that all circle jerk each other in every thread on these forums and scare away the many people on Blue who would otherwise like to give this server a chance (hence why OOC needs to go as well). The only people Sundawg is trolling are the trolls trying to scare away anyone potentially interested in this server. The forums need SMS authentication badly or account linkage so we can cut down on all the same bullshit that goes on them 24/7. This would never fly on an actual MMORPG boards nowadays, the accounts would be instabanned and you'd be unable to post without another CD Key. Either do something about the trolling here or just shut the boards down tbh, they do nothing other than hurt this server.

[mostbitter]

It's a good thing HB has a bad reputation too or else people might get confused by his tangent. As such I assume most people are gonna laugh when you raise pitchfork to the sky for SMS/cdkey identification lock down on the forums to save the server.

[Shrubwise]

Server Mode: Official Thrive
'Server Saving' confirm not necessary. Beep boop.
End transmission.

[Nirgon]

I know that 93% of the posters here are trolling for lulz, but for the 7% who aren't I'll post the following.

Sundawg makes classic code proposed changes that are then reviewed by Nilbog for approval. Nilbog makes the final call. Every single change he has proposed has been classic and needed. Who cares that he also plays? He has no access to any GM abilities, spawn timer information, anything that can even remotely help anyone on this server. If anything, because he is rumored to play here in the end game guild, he gains access to see game breaking bugs or exploits that other people would likely not bother reporting, <cough> TMO <cough>, such as the way too small Trakanon aggro range and the Chardok Royals. The proposed change to the Royals was finalized only a few days after we did them, a change that is certainly "detrimental" to ease but positive for the classic experience we are all here for. If not for his rumored presence in the end game guild here on Red, many of these bugs would never be fixed. I've still yet to see a single change he's made that isn't accurate or people are disputing.

As far as the other troll account made, the guy is trolling the trolls who don't play here and do nothing but bitch and cry on these forums 24/7 racking up more days played on the forums than some of the most active people in game. They contribute nothing except the same old rehashed one liners that weren't funny six years ago except to the other ten to twelve trolls that all circle jerk each other in every thread on these forums and scare away the many people on Blue who would otherwise like to give this server a chance (hence why OOC needs to go as well). The only people Sundawg is trolling are the trolls trying to scare away anyone potentially interested in this server. The forums need SMS authentication badly or account linkage so we can cut down on all the same bullshit that goes on them 24/7. This would never fly on an actual MMORPG boards nowadays, the accounts would be instabanned and you'd be unable to post without another CD Key. Either do something about the trolling here or just shut the boards down tbh, they do nothing other than hurt this server.

You are really bad at ForumQuest Heartbrand, "the other guy" then "Sundawg is only trolling because". Phew, anyways.

I've agreed with him btw that "boy that change sure is a coincidence". I'll let it that go. But what I can't agree with is the "I was very surprised to see people up in arms about that given the timing". Yeah, right, OK... bold lol.

I agree having coward troll accounts needs to go. In fact, I've suggested to Sirken that trolling up a storm outside of RnF with an anonymous account should result in forum account ban and deleted posts. If they can't ensure people can't come back and make a new account, they can just keep cleaning up the mess /shrug. I completely agree it wouldn't fly on modern MMORPG boards and they tie IN GAME PENALTIES to forum behavior.

As far as Nilbog making the final call, he sees the change is classic and makes it... but that is missing the point I'm making entirely. He isn't aware, and probably shouldn't need to be aware of what is going on day to day here. I don't accuse him of bias, or flaw in that process and I'm glad the change is in now. Nilbog is trying to make the server classic, and does a great job at it. However, the point being dodged is the reasoning for doing it and the methodology involved.

Nihilum farms Chardok royals, I can't say how many times over how many months. Azrael starts farming it, change is made almost immediately and I don't see a bug post about it (remember... the PROCESS is being ignored). Also consider how long it takes to get most things reviewed, fixed and approved by comparison. Having a dev to message in the guild to get things quickly changed by not following the process everyone else has to follow, well... yeah have fun deconstructing that Heartbrand, its obvious, proven and objective. Further, Nizzar is fully aware he is a dev and messaged him privately about it. Trying to explain this away really kills any attempts you think you're making to be legit.

[Nizzarr]

You are really bad at ForumQuest Heartbrand, "the other guy" then "Sundawg is only trolling because". Phew, anyways.

I've agreed with him btw that "boy that change sure is a coincidence". I'll let it that go. But what I can't agree with is the "I was very surprised to see people up in arms about that given the timing". Yeah, right, OK... bold lol.

I agree having coward troll accounts needs to go. In fact, I've suggested to Sirken that trolling up a storm outside of RnF with an anonymous account should result in forum account ban and deleted posts. If they can't ensure people can't come back and make a new account, they can just keep cleaning up the mess /shrug. I completely agree it wouldn't fly on modern MMORPG boards and they tie IN GAME PENALTIES to forum behavior.

As far as Nilbog making the final call, he sees the change is classic and makes it... but that is missing the point I'm making entirely. He isn't aware, and probably shouldn't need to be aware of what is going on day to day here. I don't accuse him of bias, or flaw in that process and I'm glad the change is in now. Nilbog is trying to make the server classic, and does a great job at it. However, the point being dodged is the reasoning for doing it and the methodology involved.

Nihilum farms Chardok royals, I can't say how many times over how many months. Azrael starts farming it, change is made almost immediately and I don't see a bug post about it (remember... the PROCESS is being ignored). Also consider how long it takes to get most things reviewed, fixed and approved by comparison. Having a dev to message in the guild to get things quickly changed by not following the process everyone else has to follow, well... yeah have fun deconstructing that Heartbrand, its obvious, proven and objective. Further, Nizzar is fully aware he is a dev and messaged him privately about it. Trying to explain this away really kills any attempts you think you're making to be legit.

You know what helps? is a dev being in game SEEING whats wrong, no second guessing, no need to go on the bug forum.

The fact hes in game helps tremendously -- he doesnt have to make bug reports about it. He goes in the developpers forums, make a fix, post the fix, fix get reviewed and accepted. You're probably fuming at the thoughts of fixes not going under Nirgon's magnifying glasses, but such is life. If you wanna see those fixes, then join the team or shut the fuck up.

He's made many of those changes as far as I can tell, and theyre all for the better of the blue and red server.

[karsten]

cool can we please have an arzak in every guild in order to be even more helpful?

[Nizzarr]

If you like the project as much as you like forum trolling, you could post an application to join the dev team. Your time would be spent more wisely there.

[Nirgon]

Yeah, well, done and done.

And if I can be honest, my zeal and pursuit of people like you scream "Uthgaard". So we can forget any coding contributions from me. Even still, nothing gets passed Nilbog, which is a good thing.

As far as going under my magnifying glass? I'm agreeing with the change, if you guys can read, and I know you're completely capable of doing so. I'm questioning the methodology and timing.

Why didn't you report it immediately Nizzar? I'll just venture a guess, it suddenly occurred to you when Azrael started being able to do it OR you reported it on day one and this is a coincidence. Mmmmhm.

OOC is taken away, maybe forum privilages will be too lawl.

[Jenni D]

huh? didnt checkraise spend 7 hours a day for 3 months making post after post pleading for the server to burn, sirkens head etc?

[Nirgon]

We're not here to question their integrity here. It's proven not to exist.

Edit: Here's a fun fact apparently Nizzar has access to an enchanter that he shared to help prove the faction change. How about take it up to Sky and try to dictate Sirran. That'd do mighty fine in shutting me up. Another thing is if I offered an enchanter, I'm sure that offer would be ignored.

[s1ckness]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85033

[QUOTE=Rogean;734611]If the guy was stupid enough to create troll accounts (I'm not putting effort into confirming it not), then he deserves whatever you guys throw back at him. If it turns out to be true, I won't ban anyone for "trolling him", the staff insult protection will not take effect as he can not simply hide under other forum accounts to hide his action. That would be absurd.


Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.
Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.
Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.
Trollborn is the corrupt developer sundawg aka arzak,he changes anything in game that might benefit him, or his guild.


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inc guild ban again

[s1ckness]

i think cast msged me that same video on my old forum account.

[Handpartytowel]

hail, a_heartbrand_argument01's corpse

[heartbrand]

hail, a_heartbrand_argument01's corpse

Sweet rebuttal pal, you're ready for the court room.

[Pudge]

I didn't even read this thread earlier because I thought "thus is a troll, no way they'd remove ooc" but... it seems GMs are considering this. Pls don't remove the ooc. It was really good for the server and still is. Until we get a 400 pop it should remain as a way to keep ppl socially connected to the rest of the server, and not isolated on some island in TD farming exp for hours till their eyes tear. Even a 5 minute timer would be MUCH better than removing it.

[Nirgon]

Sweet rebuttal pal, you're ready for the court room.

Oh and you are? Lul.

You're not obligated to defend these jerkos, and I'd refrain from it. Especially considering your previous comments that are heart-"branded" into RNF.

I'm sure you have some very respectable people in your guild. Guys and gals like Stasis, Rushmore, Zereh, Vaamp who are nice guys who aren't hell bent on subverting the server for their benefit.

But that's not who you are defending here HB. You're defending Supreme, Nizzar and Rallyd who this is all completely aimed towards. Do you know their blue history of constant RMT, exploiting, 2boxing etc? You've surely seen it here. You really want to defend them? Guild tags aside, think about who's side you're trying to be on... and here's a hint, they aren't your friends, trust me.

[heartbrand]

I'm not really sure what all you're rambling was about, but it wasn't on point. It's simple

Question Posed: Is Arzak's being a dev detrimental to the server?

1) Arzak has no GM abilities

2) Arzak makes code changes that are 100% correct and approved by Lord Nilbog.

3) Arzak is able to make many of these changes BECAUSE he is in a raid guild that does the content. Changes that TMO who have been farming the content for years now have neglected to ever report are now being made that will benefit the classic nature of this server because of Arzak.

4) Royals were farmed for days, not weeks, and the issue was never known until we did. Upon further research by Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac, a change was made that was classic and then approved by Lord Nilbog. This happened to coincide with Azrael waking up six months into Kunark and realizing, "hey, we should be killing royals also cuz they're easy." To be a pal, having realized this, he made a PSA letting everyone know, including the blue server, that the change would be going in.

As far as all the other stuff with Trollborn, w/e I really don't care, that's all ForumQuest, I stated my opinion you guys can state yours and because the same people who lost @ this server are putting in them big plays on ForumQuest you'll get the many circle jerk pat on the back posts for any zings you take @ him or me, cool story.

In terms of your Plane of Sky argument, I don't know if Sirran was dictatable or not, it seems to be he wasn't, but I'm not sure what you want? Should we stop doing so until the patch? Raid mobs are artificially harder here because you can't resist AOE's with dispel, is that fair? Queen Bee hits 16 times a round, is that fair? Eye of Veeshan is hitting for 865 when he's supposed to hit in the 100's. Sky mobs all have attack speeds like the Avatar of War. There hasn't been a patch in almost half a year, should we all log off in the interim? Should all the people with Gunthak Harpoon's delete them since they aren't correctly flagged No Rent? Should all hate gear that was farmed pre LoS changes there be deleted? Shadoo has stacked for over a year now, should all Trakanon kills be removed? Should it be illegal to engage him? Nexona has a 45 second refresh planes of power revamp harm touch is that fair? What about unresistable high sun here, should that be illegal to use until patch? I don't follow your argument, I think many of us would gladly do Sky without Sirran if in fact Sky was even remotely close to the way it was on live.

These forums have become a joke of people spewing bullshit and lies about non-existent exploits such as the "lulz delete ur zone files and pop up wherever u want" bullshit that does nothing but make potential comers turn their head @ this server and go to blue. There are plenty of people from blue who have dipped into the waters of red only to see global OOC on any given night and go "wow, this server is for tards" and never come back. The target audience for this server should be the many raid guilds being cock blocked by TMO on blue who would have the chance to compete for targets here on red, not the twenty to thirty vztz sociopaths who want to tell us in global OOC how they rub papa john's garlic butter on their stomach rolls while chewing on their decayed diabetic toes.

[Rettii]

Lol titanuk avatar

[Nirgon]

1) no shit, thanks

2) for the 50th time, I agree its a classic change, that I support but consider the process of it and timing

3) I really don't care for the bluebie pixel whores trying to rebut posted patch notes either, nor the reporting of a necro botb champion from a pvp server who CLEARLY knows the mechanics

4) No one is after the Nilbog end of this, all things considered, he is a saint on par with Sirken and I've always said this. I don't know how many times you've killed Chardok royals because I wasn't here. Consider again (51st time I'm saying this I guess, maybe it'll sink in), the timing and process followed that doesn't seem to apply to everyone else. Hell, I'd love to be able to message him and be like "hey lure of lightning should be doing 680 instead of 640" and have him make that fix almost immediately pending next patch or not.

I'm saying, it would sure be a show of good faith regarding this recent mess if he'd take Nizzar's enchanter to sky and try to charm Sirran for us. If I'm wrong, you guys can shove the result down my throat. If not? I'll just say thanks and consider it a draw. It ain't gon' happen though.

[heartbrand]

Holy fuck you are dumb.

[Nirgon]

What's a macroquest vs the state

Heartbrand defending as legal counsel

[heartbrand]

1) no shit, thanks

2) for the 50th time, I agree its a classic change, that I support but consider the process of it and timing

3) I really don't care for the bluebie pixel whores trying to rebut posted patch notes either, nor the reporting of a necro botb champion from a pvp server who CLEARLY knows the mechanics

4) No one is after the Nilbog end of this, all things considered, he is a saint on par with Sirken and I've always said this. I don't know how many times you've killed Chardok royals because I wasn't here. Consider again (51st time I'm saying this I guess, maybe it'll sink in), the timing and process followed that doesn't seem to apply to everyone else. Hell, I'd love to be able to message him and be like "hey lure of lightning should be doing 680 instead of 640" and have him make that fix almost immediately pending next patch or not.

I'm saying, it would sure be a show of good faith regarding this recent mess if he'd take Nizzar's enchanter to sky and try to charm Sirran for us. If I'm wrong, you guys can shove the result down my throat. If not? I'll just say thanks and consider it a draw. It ain't gon' happen though.

I pointed out that because of Arzak we now have fixes going in that have gone under the radar for over a YEAR as TMO failed to bug report any of them so they could continue to exploit them. You should be jumping for joy at classic correct changes being made that have been swept under the rug by exploiting blue scum. Instead, you're here bitching that because literally three days after the first time we ever did Chardok Royals on this server, a fix is in place pending patch (which means it could be MONTHS before it goes on) that effects another guild as well that began to farm royals, a fix that effects both guilds equally and won't be taking effect for potentially over half a year @ this rate of patches. Keep drinking that cool-aid tho pal.

[Nirgon]

Pretty sure I have sharp fingers pointed at TMO and the other bluebies too for countless acts of server integrity murdering. This particular instance is pointed at your guild.

Oh hey Nizzar and co learned all that shit on blue anyways and brought it here. Sit on that one a minute.

[heartbrand]

Pretty sure I have sharp fingers pointed at TMO and the other bluebies too for countless acts of server integrity murdering. This particular instance is pointed at your guild.

What instance? You haven't formulated an argument that makes any coherent sense. Is your argument that because after having doing the royals here for the first time ever we noticed an issue, then Arzak fixed the issue literally within days and it is now fixed pending patch that there is corruption since a rival guild is doing the same content as well? Lol are you for real? We bug reported Trakanon as well for many issues and we're the only people doing him here, bug reports that will make him more difficult.

[Nirgon]

You are calling this an argument where there is none.

The timing of such things is ... let's be generous and say suspicious. Being able to hand a dev another account to log in and fix something with a /tell...I guess we can be super generous again and say that's a perk of being.... his guild leader?

Tbh most people don't care to argue with you or read most of this, but as you've noted before, I'm posting for the 7% that might actually read what you're posting and believe you.

[heartbrand]

You are calling this an argument where there is none.

The timing of such things is ... let's be generous and say suspicious. Being able to hand a dev another account to log in and fix something with a /tell...I guess we can be super generous again and say that's a perk of being.... his guild leader?

Tbh most people don't care to argue with you or read most of this, but as you've noted before, I'm posting for the 7% that might actually read what you're posting and believe you.

You've yet to formulate an argument about why the timing is suspicious that withstands any factual inquiry. I also don't follow your dev account comment not sure what you even mean.

[Rogean]

So apparently cast is back to spamming gay porn because you guys want ooc removed? I haven't even considered removing it, but JUST because of him, I might remove it. JUST to spite him.

:D

[Nirgon]

Arzak sent me the tell stating that Nizzar gave him access to an enchanter to test it.

This looks a lot like Supreme's clever version of "evading" guilt lol.

"What's a dev? Who is Nihilum? I'm not really Heartbrand dude, you are making things up."

Lol you and your "mind games".

[Nirgon]

So apparently cast is back to spamming gay porn because you guys want ooc removed? I haven't even considered removing it, but JUST because of him, I might remove it. JUST to spite him.

:D

Cast wants the server to fail, give him his victory. He won't brag about it at all.

The box needs Rogean to survive too, he is the gate keeper.

If you get a package from Cast its either a bomb or a gifted Star Wars expansion.

[InfamousTaco]

Rogean can we get an official statement on the fact that Northwest was stripped and deleted by Rettiwalk? (even if no action can be taken)

[Kringe]

I'm not really sure what all you're rambling was about, but it wasn't on point. It's sim, not weeks, and the issue was never known until we did. Upon further research by Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac, a change was made that was classic and then approved by Lord Nilbog. This happened to coincide with Azrael waking up six months into Kunark and realizing, "hey, we should be killing royals also cuz they're easy." To be a pal, having realized this, he made a PSA letting everyone know, including the blue server, that the change would be going in.

Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,
Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,
Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,

By your same notion to include Azrak's experience here as well as your own.
It has been verified on EQMAC that invis pulling mobs is indeed not classic and definitely not the way it's "supposed" to be.

So we can expect an immediate bug fix change by Azrak (Sundawg) and a full report by you or Nizzar of every mob you and him have witnessed this can be exploited by correct?

What instance? You haven't formulated an argument that makes any coherent sense. Is your argument that because after having doing the royals here for the first time ever we noticed an issue, then Arzak fixed the issue literally within days and it is now fixed pending patch that there is corruption since a rival guild is doing the same content as well? Lol are you for real? We bug reported Trakanon as well for many issues and we're the only people doing him here, bug reports that will make him more difficult.

then Arzak fixed the issue literally within days

I will also be looking for this fix on invis pulling.

[heartbrand]

Arzak sent me the tell stating that Nizzar gave him access to an enchanter to test it.

This looks a lot like Supreme's clever version of "evading" guilt lol.

"What's a dev? Who is Nihilum? I'm not really Heartbrand dude, you are making things up."

Lol you and your "mind games".

I really don't know what you're referencing and you keep saying it over and over with no more details, care to flesh out what it is you're speaking of?

[Pudge]

So apparently cast is back to spamming gay porn because you guys want ooc removed? I haven't even considered removing it, but JUST because of him, I might remove it. JUST to spite him.

:D

NOOOoo. like 3 ppl want ooc removed. DONT DO IT.

fuck u cast!

[Nirgon]

I think invis pulling is a much more difficult technical fix and is going to require a Nilbog, Kanras or Rogean anyways.

The point is, whereas some of you would sell everyone else out for pixels. I'd sell everyone out for a true classic, moderated and uncorrupted RZ box. That's all I want, I ain't even gotta "play mind games" to say it.

Heartbrand, you need to look at the parts of the post I quoted you in and bolded and realize you're the moss snake of ForumQuest.

[heartbrand]

Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,
Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,
Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,

By your same notion to include Azrak's experience here as well as your own.
It has been verified on EQMAC that invis pulling mobs is indeed not classic and definitely not the way it's "supposed" to be.

So we can expect an immediate bug fix change by Azrak (Sundawg) and a full report by you or Nizzar of every mob you and him have witnessed this can be exploited by correct?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68541&highlight=invis+pulling
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77999&highlight=invis+pulling

There are multiple threads on invis pulling all with factual evidence one way or the other and references to EQ Mac and how it works there. None of this new and has been rehashed for over a year. This, on the other hand, was a bug that has never been reported or mentioned before and was then fixed.

[Nirgon]

EQ Mac I will say is a very handy tool and again agree with the change that was made. It will be useful for determing the questions about tstaff procs and Sirran.

Inb4 the inevitable "What's a Supreme" or "What's a forum post" defense: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=850103&postcount=120

[heartbrand]

So I guess you don't plan on elaborating?

[Kringe]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68541&highlight=invis+pulling
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77999&highlight=invis+pulling

There are multiple threads on invis pulling all with factual evidence one way or the other and references to EQ Mac and how it works there. None of this new and has been rehashed for over a year. This, on the other hand, was a bug that has never been reported or mentioned before and was then fixed.

But you and your guild continue to exploit it... And only when others threaten to utilize the same exploitation will they either Exhibit A) BE punished or banned (See the holocaust situation from a year ago in which you assisted us with the knowledge of. Or Exhibit B) Expect an immediate fix by the Dev in your guild when this becomes a threat to mobs you guys wish to farm. **See Azrael and Royals reference**



then Arzak fixed the issue literally within days

I will also be looking for this fix on invis pulling.

[heartbrand]

But you and your guild continue to exploit it... And only when others threaten to utilize the same exploitation will they either Exhibit A) BE punished or banned (See the holocaust situation from a year ago in which you assisted us with the knowledge of. Or Exhibit B) Expect an immediate fix by the Dev in your guildwhen this becomes a threat to mobs you guys wish to farm. **See Azrael and Royals reference**



then Arzak fixed the issue literally within days

I will also be looking for this fix on invis pulling.

Invis pulling is used by everyone on Project 1999 from raid guilds on blue, to exp groups in seb. I have yet to see a post by a GM saying "invis pulling is not allowed on Project 1999," and calling it an exploit. When you see a post in fact confirming invis pulling is an exploit, let me know, thanks. (nice straw man attempt tho)

[heartbrand]

p.s., chardok royals are a two hour repop, you can't be a "threat" to farming them when they repop every two hours and the fix went in within days of our first time ever doing them. I know, it's tough when facts don't match your rhetoric, kinda like when you blindly accused me of stripping Lime, a guy I never knew or saw in game, for over a year until admitting you were wrong.

[Kringe]

Invis pulling is used by everyone on Project 1999 from raid guilds on blue, to exp groups in seb. I have yet to see a post by a GM saying "invis pulling is not allowed on Project 1999," and calling it an exploit. When you see a post in fact confirming invis pulling is an exploit, let me know, thanks. (nice straw man attempt tho)

Nice dodge on Exhibit A)'s reference.... Which you neither confirmed nor denied...

Typical "lawyerism" I presume...

[Nirgon]

Have Sundawg log on Nizzar's enchanter and try to invis pull mobs through Sebilis and confirm the bug himself.

Until then I'm not interested in participating in some argument where you think you're being clever. This is a disgusting and frankly ridiculous defense of players subverting the server for their own goals and there is absolutely no return from behavior like this.

I'll just save myself the time digging up posts that confirm the comical levels of hypocrisy here.


As far as Lime, think about why you'd be the obvious suspect lol. It was pursued, discovered and apologized for. No one says he was right for blaming you the whole time.

[Kringe]

p.s., chardok royals are a two hour repop, you can't be a "threat" to farming them when they repop every two hours and the fix went in within days of our first time ever doing them. I know, it's tough when facts don't match your rhetoric, kinda like when you blindly accused me of stripping Lime, a guy I never knew or saw in game, for over a year until admitting you were wrong.

No but you can be a "theat to pulling them" when you can faction "invis exploit" pull them to the zoneline.. Such as you do Fungi King and numerous other mobs... This is clearly the intent of Sonys content and in no way a form of exploitation.. The same with pulling Naggy to Tranix's Hallway to Avoid AOE (No wait there were reprocussions for that).. So shit I'm confused dog, we get to now pick and choose whats a exploit and whats not?? Enlighten me... So I can know what to exploit and be able to get away with and what we cannot... (Or if we do it will be fixed the following day "pending update")

More lucky that exploit in other words..

[Tr0llb0rn]

Arzak sent me the tell stating that Nizzar gave him access to an enchanter to test it.

This looks a lot like Supreme's clever version of "evading" guilt lol.

"What's a dev? Who is Nihilum? I'm not really Heartbrand dude, you are making things up."

Lol you and your "mind games".


I so do not want to get involved with this, but your first sentence is dead 100 percent wrong. I'm gonna assume you are getting confused with what you read from "nihilumspy".

[Nirgon]

Lie.

Rogean/Nilbog can post the logs of all of my tells between us last night. You directly state you logged into an account he gave you to investigate. Period.

[skorge]

The target audience for this server should be the many raid guilds being cock blocked by TMO on blue who would have the chance to compete for targets here on red.

You have to be crazy to think that should be Red 99's target audience, lol. Most people here (on p99) don't want to pvp, because let's face it, EQ wasn't meant for pvp. Yes the crappy community here is turning people's heads, but OOC won't fix that. All people have to do is read the forums and they will see the community.

[heartbrand]

Just because you continue to call something an exploit doesn't mean it's an exploit. Please provide a post to a GM calling it an exploit and not allowed on this server. Otherwise, everything you posted is your opinion. Certain Dots don't display here, I guess casting those are bannable exploits? What about dispelling necro heals on yourself? That's an exploit that should be bannable right? c wut i did there?

[Nirgon]

So what's the punishment for exploiting raid content compared to say.. casting a necro dot again?

Anywho yeah, please post my tell logs between Arzak and Nirgon Feb 13th. I've correctly accused this group before despite ridiculous denial. If Rogean and Nilbog really care, find that line mentioning Nizzar's enchanter and you'll see wtf is going on here.

Prosecution rests. Heartbrand, you're worthless man.

[heartbrand]

Still waiting on a single link to a GM post or rule stating that invis pulling is a punishable exploit on Project 1999.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Lie.

Rogean/Nilbog can post the logs of all of my tells between us last night. You directly state you logged into an account he gave you to investigate. Period.

Please re-read your logs, and you have my permission to post this /tell where I tell you I've logged onto nizzars enchanter.

The GMs also have my permission to look and see if anyone from my city or even region of state has ever logged into Nizzars enchanter.

I knew it was a mistake to respond to you, sigh.

Read your own logs and get back to me nirgon. You are gonna owe me an apology.

[Nirgon]

Oh wait so Nizzar does have an enchanter? How'd you know!

Lol.

You're guilty, scum.

[heartbrand]

Please re-read your logs, and you have my permission to post this /tell where I tell you I've logged onto nizzars enchanter.

The GMs also have my permission to look and see if anyone from my city or even region of state has ever logged into Nizzars enchanter.

I knew it was a mistake to respond to you, sigh.

Read your own logs and get back to me nirgon. You are gonna owe me an apology.

He's too busy searching for invis pulling being an exploit posts, that one will take him sometime until never to complete, so gonna be hard to move onto that task.

[Nirgon]

Nope, too busy outlining some fun things to share with the pals. I'll be around again tomorrow.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Oh wait so Nizzar does have an enchanter? How'd you know!

Lol.

You're guilty, scum.

:rolleyes:

[heartbrand]

I like how that skorge guy proves my point about how the forums, full of mad people who don't even play on this server, are negative for generating interest in this server and should be moderated more heavily / tied to accounts / something else to cut down on it.

[heartbrand]

It's the administrations fault for letting people with developer/GM access to play at the same time, shit's never EVER going to stay legit that way.

I do realize its hard finding contributors with rules not letting them play but honestly, there's people out there willing to help and doesn't give a fuck about playing, see Sirken for example, if he has a toon, it's in it's low 30th probably.

Bias is clear, it's human nature.

Still waiting for example of a change that went in that is incorrect and hence benefited Nihilum here. Will delete chars upon showing of such a change.

[heartbrand]

Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,
Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,
Arzak utilizing both our experience here and EQMac,

By your same notion to include Azrak's experience here as well as your own.
It has been verified on EQMAC that invis pulling mobs is indeed not classic and definitely not the way it's "supposed" to be.

So we can expect an immediate bug fix change by Azrak (Sundawg) and a full report by you or Nizzar of every mob you and him have witnessed this can be exploited by correct?



then Arzak fixed the issue literally within days

I will also be looking for this fix on invis pulling.

This is exactly how I remember it.

Fix the current invis pulling please.


o u mad?

[heartbrand]

P.S.

NPCs will only remove PCs from feign memory on successful blur rolls, pending update. As before, Invis/Sneak/Hide will still prevent re-aggro while they're up, but once they are broken the PC is fair game.

is the last dev comment on invis pulling which seems to confirm it is considered by the devs here a legit classic technique. while many of us disagree, the devs seem to feel otherwise, so any reference to it as a bannable exploit is laughable.

[nilbog]

P.S.



is the last dev comment on invis pulling which seems to confirm it is considered by the devs here a legit classic technique. while many of us disagree, the devs seem to feel otherwise, so any reference to it as a bannable exploit is laughable.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=829589&postcount=83

[heartbrand]

So can we confirm that invis pulling, at least currently until a decision is made otherwise, is 100% acceptable on this server? That seems to be every indication.

[fiegi 2.5]

HEARTBRAND PUT THE GOD DAMN KEYBOARD DOWN FUCK

[Kringe]

Just because you continue to call something an exploit doesn't mean it's an exploit. Please provide a post to a GM calling it an exploit and not allowed on this server. Otherwise, everything you posted is your opinion. Certain Dots don't display here, I guess casting those are bannable exploits? What about dispelling necro heals on yourself? That's an exploit that should be bannable right? c wut i did there?

Based on this rebuttal alone, I dont see a post anywhere by a GM stating that Nagafen couldnt be pulled to Tranix's Hallway to avoid AOE and Melee... However we sure as hell were punished by it....

Piss poor rebuttal coming from a Law student.... Based on your same analogy a crime isnt a crime unless a judge doesnt post for it to be (in this case a GM being the Judge)

Common sense tells you if thats the way it was "meant to be" or not.. Rather than I can exploit this EG:

ex·ploit2 /ɪkˈsplɔɪt/ Show Spelled [ik-sploit] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1. to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account: to exploit a business opportunity.
2. to use selfishly for one's own ends: employers who exploit their workers.
3. to advance or further through exploitation; promote: He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.

[heartbrand]

Based on this rebuttal alone, I dont see a post anywhere by a GM stating that Nagafen couldnt be pulled to Tranix's Hallway to avoid AOE and Melee... However we sure as hell were punished by it....

Piss poor rebuttal coming from a Law student.... Based on your same analogy a crime isnt a crime unless a judge doesnt post for it to be (in this case a GM being the Judge)

Common sense tells you if thats the way it was "meant to be" or not.. Rather than I can exploit this EG:

ex·ploit2 /ɪkˈsplɔɪt/ Show Spelled [ik-sploit] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1. to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account: to exploit a business opportunity.
2. to use selfishly for one's own ends: employers who exploit their workers.
3. to advance or further through exploitation; promote: He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.

1) Nilbog verified with his quote that in fact Invis Pulling IS working as intended as a CLASSIC INTENDED FEATURE, though he may change it eventually as he feels it does seem to not be within the spirit of the game.

2) There doesn't need to be a post saying you can't intentionally bug out a mob to not do an AOE. Despite that, Holocaust was also warned by a GM saying do not do X next week or you will be punished. You guys STILL did it anyway.

everything in your post is retarded beyond belief it blows my mind

[heartbrand]

Look at any piece of major legislation passed by Congress. Almost every single bill contains unintended loop holes, or some intended, that seem to go against the spirit of the intentions of the bill. Does it mean those who take advantage of said loopholes are breaking the law? No, of course not. Often times Congress will then pass a law to close the loop holes, but until such a law is passed, the action is 100% legal. How much more so here where in fact the said "loop hole" has been endorsed as a classic intended feature, that may or may not be closed down the road.

[heartbrand]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1441

Quote:
What I mean is, you can stand beside an aggro, non-see invis mob, while invisible then click this item. Your invis will be topped up and you wont have become visible, even for a short length of time.

Its a bit over-powering for pulling, which was why it was nerfed. You could invis, run through loads of non-invis seeing mobs, tag a mob you wanted to kill, re-invis instantly, then run back through the blind mobs.
http://vinceremo.dkpsystem.com/viewt...=974&newpost=1

Quote:
Use #1- Pulling. This device is incredibly useful for pulling mobs while other mobs are in between you and your target, and they do not see invis. Step 1- Pull. Feign off any adds from the pull by darkness splitting, or if you have pet hold, Pet pulling. Stand up and tag mob, instantly click your COS and run through all the mobs that any other pulling class could not have worked around, and would have had to clear to reach the objective. This technique will make your life as a puller much more easy.
Quote:
When I am pulling, I can click my CoS while running around looking for a mob to pull, tag it and instantly reclick it and not have to worry about adds while bringing mob back to group.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/c...52814460118873

Quote:
It gives you an advantage on pulling singles on non-see invis mobs that have a high social assist range. Basically, have pet up, FD, invis. Pet pull, stand, invis and run to where you want to engage the mob.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

The fact hes in game helps me tremendously -- he doesnt have to make bug reports about it. He goes in the exploit forums, finds a strat, post the strat, strat get reviewed and dkp awarded.

FTFY

[heartbrand]

Bamzal confirming for us he has one of the lowest IQ's in box history.

[Kringe]

everything in your post is retarded beyond belief it blows my mind

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=73224&highlight=heartbrand

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=73224&highlight=heartbrand

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=73224&highlight=heartbrand

[Rettii]

Triple post tho

[heartbrand]

Trading 51 Necro (Darkelf- Male) - SMR - Full Resist Gear- Jboots has all Researchable Spells with 200 Research For Blue Plat.


Pm me!

[Kringe]

Yea unfortunately Lethdar beat me to it... Stole my account and sold it to someone.

Also a major difference there... Trading for Blue plat... where as to your's.... Trading for Blue Toons!!

[heartbrand]

Yes, red had like 40 players on it @ the time and I planned on fucking around casually on blue and then when red picked up again trading back for something fun to play on red. Don't see the sin there pal.

[Vile]

gonna get your zone cmds deleted bro

[Samrothstein]

I got douche chills reading this

[karsten]

put the keyboard down dude, you have to prep for your next trial

[heartbrand]

put the keyboard down dude, you have to prep for your next trial

karsten tears are the most tasty ones

[heartbrand]

It's my job to educate the unwashed masses

[Handpartytowel]

i dont remember pulling all of vp to zone in on live. or any competing guilds on or off my server doing this.

kind of trivializes things. why not just have a #summonnpc [id] button?

[Rettii]

Last edited by Handpartytowel; Today at 06:29 PM.. Reason: better make believe command syntax

Rofl

[fiegi 2.5]

who is that old fuck that is supposed to be me???

[Bamzal Sherbet]

i dont remember pulling all of vp to zone in on live. or any competing guilds on or off my server doing this.

kind of trivializes things. why not just have a #summonnpc [id] button?

patch is coded. pending azrael vp keys

[Jenni D]

what kind of law based employment requires 4 hrs per day forumquest & 7 hrs plus playing an enchanter named Ricardo on an eq emu? super lol

[runlvlzero]

There still is no YT? Its been like 6months...

[Kevynne]

There still is no YT? Its been like 6months...

Thank you Miria.

[Rettii]

I'm squinting ever so slightly and looking off into the distance. Perhaps I'm pondering something revelutionary. Maybe it's something poetic.

[Mafakka]

For those who want to get rid of /ooc, have you heard of /filter? Turn ooc off, you still have /shout and /auction.

Your arguments are invalid, OOC was introduced with a pop of 80-100ish.

Getting rid of OOC will not solve your problems.

The stance against global OOC is like the stance against public breastfeeding.

[HippoNipple]

There still is no YT? Its been like 6months...

It might be in there is no confirmation. No one has died on server in several months. Everyone zone plugs or instant plugs now a days.

[Nirgon]

I am currently in favor of as many non-classic features as possible that promote my interests. I need an ooc ticker going through Times Square.

[Rettii]

Need YT to twitter feed

[Kevynne]

Need YT

yt or global ooc.
90% will say yt.

[Mafakka]

Defeats purpose of thread. YT not classic.