If this exp was not a waste of time....

[Kraz]

I would be red boxin all the time if this exp was not so slow. I am a working man and I used to play all the time but I do not have time to waste leveling alone for 2 months. I know I am not alone on this. If the server would just boost exp a ton up to level 55ish the box would hit 250 players online, why is this not a no brainer? The no lifers who play everyday will bitch but they are no lifers and they will go no where. In the long run they will be happy. I am so sick of coming to the Forums and seeing no change in the red box numbers, yet no changes are made. This is not blue we are not here for blue balls boxing. We want to get wet with the pvp! I just read a post that people WANT to get attacked while raiding but never do? wtf so sad.... what kind of box is this?

[Nirgon]

I have just the thing for you mister.

Features: fast levelling, thousands of players, teams, no item loot or xp loss on death, very carefully considered pvp balancing focused on 1v1,2v2,3v3 in forced settings (or just general whining from the masses) and devs that make tons of quality of life changes based on feedback regardless if they take the game in a good direction or not.

https://us.battle.net/account/creation/wow/signup/

Enjoy!

[Nirgon]

MaybeChuck that picture is infuriating where ever did you find it.

[Kraz]

Fuckin no lifers are coming out of their basements to protect their pixels, these are the people I was referring to. Thanks guys for proving my point.

[Nirgon]

The xp is incredibly fast compared to blue up to 50 dude. Classic EQ xp was never fast, I'd try some of the other Emu servers.

Per always: if you don't have friends to play with, maybe rolling a solo class to get started makes sense.

[Kraz]

You missed the point of the post.

[Nirgon]

You want super fast xp to 55, and it might make more people play... ok.

Now consider you will all be rather naked lvl 55s.

Just put the time in pal. Obama doesn't protect this box.

[Kraz]

You are still missing it. There is one big detail your leaving out.

[Nirgon]

Level up, gear up and come pvp.

Norrath doesn't have free healthcare and Obama phones.

If I gotta spend 6 hours quadding with Dekadenz fucking all over my lvl 52 ass, everyone else can deal with it too.

[Twain]

Fyi, Nirgon is the biggest troll on R99 forums. Only listen to about .0001999999% he says.

[Nirgon]

K, log in and ask Dekadenz if I'm lying about that. /shrug

[Tr0llb0rn]

I would be red boxin all the time if this exp was not so slow. I am a working man and I used to play all the time but I do not have time to waste leveling alone for 2 months. I know I am not alone on this. If the server would just boost exp a ton up to level 55ish the box would hit 250 players online, why is this not a no brainer? The no lifers who play everyday will bitch but they are no lifers and they will go no where. In the long run they will be happy. I am so sick of coming to the Forums and seeing no change in the red box numbers, yet no changes are made. This is not blue we are not here for blue balls boxing. We want to get wet with the pvp! I just read a post that people WANT to get attacked while raiding but never do? wtf so sad.... what kind of box is this?

As others have said, try WoW.

This is a classic red EQ server and the xp is already way too fast for what is intended to be a CLASSIC red EQ server.

The only point I will agree with you on is leveling alone/solo, and that is a symptom of the huge global xp bonus on this server being solo based and not grouping based.

If they would only reduce the flat global xp rate to CLASSIC sullon zek levels, 20 percent, and placed the remaining xp bonus into a group based one (the bigger the group the higher the xp bonus) it would solve your problem.

You'd be able to find groups since groups would be a little bit more viable for xp then the pure soloing or PLing route now and you'd have fun playing Everquest as intended and not even notice what level you were.

The big elephant in the room here is that a select few solo to 60 or get PLed to 60 via the huge xp bonus, and ALL the group dependent classes are left out in the cold /lfg in vain.

[Rushmore]

I would be red boxin all the time if this exp was not so slow. I am a working man and I used to play all the time but I do not have time to waste leveling alone for 2 months. I know I am not alone on this. If the server would just boost exp a ton up to level 55ish the box would hit 250 players online, why is this not a no brainer? The no lifers who play everyday will bitch but they are no lifers and they will go no where. In the long run they will be happy. I am so sick of coming to the Forums and seeing no change in the red box numbers, yet no changes are made. This is not blue we are not here for blue balls boxing. We want to get wet with the pvp! I just read a post that people WANT to get attacked while raiding but never do? wtf so sad.... what kind of box is this?

I'm like you I work for a living!!! But unlike you I totally disagree. This is EQ not Counterstirke with guns, dota, or wow. It's all about the journey. After they give you more exp you're just going to whine about loot drops. It never ends. It's like this loss of XP on PVP deaths. There has to be penalties in place. Less QQ more PEWPEW.

Once you let everyone level toons all easy like they will get bored. 90% of the population is still leveling otherwise the box population would be 35 not 100+ during prime time.

Like Nirgon said. Obama does not protect this box. No hand outs sir!

I will say thank you for the xp bonus from months back. I think it's perfect right where it is.

[Nirgon]

People getting almost insta to 55 and gear being too easy to get leaves less time in between for precious PvP.

[SamwiseRed]

xp is pretty fast here brew. my prob is its just so damn boring to xp not that the xp sucks. anyways GL, EQ classic is not for u

[Vile]

XP boost to 45 plz

[Graahle]

xp is pretty fast here brew. my prob is its just so damn boring to xp not that the xp sucks. anyways GL, EQ classic is not for u

Unless you're a Troll SK. Slow as nuts even in a group. Still fun though!

I do want to roll a solo toon in the meantime to benefit the main in the long run.

*looking for bard/necro newbie items!

[Kraz]

I have been playing this game longer then most of you I am sure of that. I was in Peacebreakers on RZ and then Curse. Played on all boxes for vz/tz. This game is for me and I love it. There is no other game out there that even comes close. I know that this server is stagnant at about 70 players. All of you have got the wrong idea how to make this server take off and this is obvious because every "Big" event like kunark, small exp bonus change, etc, all of it has failed. I don't want any hand outs I want to battle for end game gear for the next few years not level up in unrest alone because the server has no population. If things stay the same sadly there will be no fights over end game mobs. You will never even glimpse the glory of real pvp, involving big 20 v 20 v 6 battles. I have seen 3 guilds battling for 1 in total chaos with yellow text flaming the server, it was amazing. For those of you who have never done that I feel for you, these memories are and always will be some of the best I have of this game. Don't dispair though, the best part about this tale is we can do it again! I don't even care if exp was slowed down at 55. I just want guild battles for end game mobs! Not ONE no lifer guild running around protecting pixels with words on forums.

[InfamousTaco]

I would be red boxin all the time if this exp was not so slow. I am a working man and I used to play all the time but I do not have time to waste leveling alone for 2 months. I know I am not alone on this. If the server would just boost exp a ton up to level 55ish the box would hit 250 players online, why is this not a no brainer? The no lifers who play everyday will bitch but they are no lifers and they will go no where. In the long run they will be happy. I am so sick of coming to the Forums and seeing no change in the red box numbers, yet no changes are made. This is not blue we are not here for blue balls boxing. We want to get wet with the pvp! I just read a post that people WANT to get attacked while raiding but never do? wtf so sad.... what kind of box is this?

I wrote a nice post about how you need to put in the time to level up and appreciate the journey but I deleted it.

Instead i'm just gonna say that you would get raped in high level pvp anyway (gotta farm clickies and golem wands and resist gear) and you obviously ain't got time for dat.

[SamwiseRed]

As others have said, try WoW.

This is a classic red EQ server and the xp is already way too fast for what is intended to be a CLASSIC red EQ server.

The only point I will agree with you on is leveling alone/solo, and that is a symptom of the huge global xp bonus on this server being solo based and not grouping based.

If they would only reduce the flat global xp rate to CLASSIC sullon zek levels, 20 percent, and placed the remaining xp bonus into a group based one (the bigger the group the higher the xp bonus) it would solve your problem.

You'd be able to find groups since groups would be a little bit more viable for xp then the pure soloing or PLing route now and you'd have fun playing Everquest as intended and not even notice what level you were.

The big elephant in the room here is that a select few solo to 60 or get PLed to 60 via the huge xp bonus, and ALL the group dependent classes are left out in the cold /lfg in vain.

xp bonus has never been the issue, its non soloing classes being left in the dust. its pretty bad here, a solo class can get to 55 in a week should they choose to neglect their RL. all xp bonus does it push the gap between soloers and group dependent classes even further.

doesnt help that every is rolling SKs. need more cleric/chanter/shaman to simmer down and group up mid levels.

[InfamousTaco]

Seems like you're reliving your glory days like a high school football QB does when he's 35 and fat. Sure he can join a local flag football team, but it's never going to be the same when he was pounding that fresh high school cheer leader pussy. Dealwithit.jpg

This is definitely what is happening here.

Great analogy.

[SamwiseRed]

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/images/BundyAl.jpg

[Kraz]

Nice try but I don't even play so your argument is invalid. Just trying to help broskies.

[Kraz]

Taco I don't need clickies to kill your noob ass, that is one of the beautiful things about eq pvp it's skill based more then any other mmo.

[fiegi 2.5]

Seems like you're reliving your glory days like a high school football QB does when he's 35 and fat. Sure he can join a local flag football team, but it's never going to be the same when he was pounding that fresh high school cheer leader pussy. Dealwithit.jpg

lol'd bigtime

[InfamousTaco]

Taco I don't need clickies to kill your noob ass, that is one of the beautiful things about eq pvp it's skill based more then any other mmo.

yea bro................



tite

[watbab]

You keep saying the pop is not growing, but the population has been steadily rising over the last 6 months.

Things like a giant xp boost will have a detrimental effect in the long-term. Leave it like it is imo.

[Tr0llb0rn]

xp bonus has never been the issue, its non soloing classes being left in the dust. its pretty bad here, a solo class can get to 55 in a week should they choose to neglect their RL. all xp bonus does it push the gap between soloers and group dependent classes even further.

doesnt help that every is rolling SKs. need more cleric/chanter/shaman to simmer down and group up mid levels.

And thats my point. IF there is going to be a non-classic higher then 20 percent (like sullonzek) xp bonus, at least put it where it will actually help the server: as a grouping bonus.

We need more reason for players to group up and include the group dependent classes. Dedicate the non-classic portion of the xp bonus to grouping bonus.

Groups already have so much working against them. The xp is slower, more a pain in the butt to put together, non-optimal classes are shunned like the plauge (lol rangers), and its exausting as a puller to keep enough mobs in the group to even come within the same universe as solo (or duo) xp.

Groups all around are a ton more work for all those involved, for LESS xp.

Its sad but true, but soloing even as a bad solo class is better xp:

i'm never getting use to this exp rate tbh, people tell me "ITS GREAT EXP MAN" i come to the group, we litteraly slay 100 mobs within 10 minutes, i realise i've only gotten 1%...

I think group exp is so retarded slow soloing is a more viable option, and i'm a monk.

Fuck

Everyone knows the above is true, i've experienced it myself.

[Kraz]

Troll that is a great idea.

[Tradesonred]

I dont agree with trollborn on basically anything but group xp bonus, yeah

[Rettii]

So, add YT and group bonus.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I dont agree with trollborn on basically anything but group xp bonus, yeah

Everyone needs to get behind this movement, for the sake of the server.

EQ is WAY more fun when its a social game, grouping , Group vs Group. Not hideing as a solo caster in some NPC city killing the same one mob over and over again solo.


Make the "flat rate" xp bonus same as sullon zek, a nice classic 20 percent (to more then cover xp loss in pvp, as was intended and classic back in the day). The rest of the xp bonus ... GIVE IT TO GROUPS!

No more bonus for the people who need it the least: solo casters and people being PLed. Enough is enough.

[Rettii]

Soloing sucks I agree eq is team game, playing by yourself is no fun, this is y global ooc was a huge improvement (other than the RL attacks, but scumbags get dealt with eventually).

YT makes the PvP global
Group xp encourages teams and discourages soloing cus faster

It's sad cus I try to duo raptors w a monk pal and xp blows hard like its nerfed harder than the gain of added dps and faster kill time so it's a net loss

[watbab]

Group XP boost seriously needs to be implemented.

[Dullah]

Group exp would be great. It would make grouping appealing for solo classes, help the melees etc. It would also be an incentive for people powerleveling, to powerlevel entire groups instead of just an individual as they would actually end up gaining just about the same exp, if not more depending on how much the bonus was shifted.

[Tomatoking]

exp is terrible and if you want your exp to tank join a group

hybrids? hahah you have to be a no liver to get to 50

ive been 55 on hugs for a week , and i can kill over 20 mobs and not get a blue. If you think thats ideal exp think again , thats why the only guild on server is nihilum and its all lifers

this guy speaks good points, at least offer exp events where people can cover ground and lets get some 60s on the other side of the war effort and watch how fun our server gets.

[SamwiseRed]

how about no xp bonus period. instead just have a set amount of xp for everyone per kill in the group. i forget which game does this but basically whether 1 person kills a sonic bat or a full group, each person gets the same % xp.

lemme try another example to clarify.
I quad 4 seafuries for 4%. They are all dark blue. Now I add 2 wizards to the group and we quad another set of dark blue seafuries, we each get 4%.

yea I know it sounds a little redic but it makes it a point to group up. LIterally no reason to solo. It truely becomes the more people you have, the faster shit dies, and ofc more xp. should be like this away, grouping should be optimal XP always, always, always. it has never made sense to me that I get better xp duoing than a full group. how about it?

[Tomatoking]

only game i ever saw that actually gave enough bonus to encourage grouping was shards of dalaya

[Nirgon]

More people wanting max level in 2 weeks.

Go play WoW or make a class that can solo if you don't have friends that play as much as you.

[SamwiseRed]

adding people to your group should increase killing time and increase xp not hinder it. read my post on other page. is that were i got it from? SoD?

[Nirgon]

If Nihilum is petitioning for it, its something to benefit them... not you.

You guys who put in 2-3 hours a night solo or that can't find a group usually are going to jump for joy for an xp bonus so they can level their alts faster? Great idea.

This needs to just be a classic freaking EverQuest server and not a game of whoever can change the rules to suit their interests.

[Tomatoking]

This message is hidden because Nirgon is on your ignore list.


haha u dum

[SamwiseRed]

im actually for nirgons idea of reverting pvp back down to 4 lvl range. since resist system will never get tweaked its needed. lvl 60 caster wipe the floor wit dem 52s. make KC an open pvp zone as well as any other kunark dungeon thats not tho to keep people from having OOR heals.

[Nirgon]

4 level range is a no brainer on an FFA server.

Should make it 4 level range in solb/perma also.

Inc Nihilumz omg.

[SamwiseRed]

ye solb is the best lvling spot in classic 50+ but every time a lowbie group gets started there they get smashed from behind by a Nihilum wielding a steel chair and a cow tazer.

[Nirgon]

K, so fix #1.. disable that non-classic featuer making it an all level range zone.

Funny how these non-classic things to play out. Not like a room full of people who made EQ great decided any of this stuff.

[InfamousTaco]

I'm glad no one takes you guys seriously because these last few ideas by Nirgon and Sam have been absolutely horrible.

You mean I can't go 6v1 a group of lowbies in solb?

Go fuck yourself.

[SamwiseRed]

hehe not very saintly of you

this server is a hybrid of custom stuff, sullon zek xp loss, and ffa rallos zek style

its like the pick and choose the most horrible traits of each server and smashed into one.

[InfamousTaco]

Buff them when they're lowbies. Slay them when they're in range.

[SamwiseRed]

^lol

[Tomatoking]

8 level pvp range is literally farm status , and exp loss on it? Haha

but lets face it people who made this server are pretty much brand new to pvp

[SamwiseRed]

custom level range and resists

sullon zek xp loss on pvp death but no teams

rallos zek ffa system but no item loot

just pick one of the server and go with it. they are litterally mixing and matching the worst features of those two servers.

[Loli Pops]

Careful brews, Sam might quit again.

[SamwiseRed]

id have to start again first. please one step at a time. just switched to toss 2 days ago, getting raped on ladder.

[Tomatoking]

whats toss? salad toss?

[Tippett]

it is not easy mode at level 50+ it's the same as blue because the scaling ends at 50.

also unlike blue you get ganked by guild groups everytime you try to exp by level 55-60 players who are insanely more powerful then you.

each gank is like 20 mins + of grinding and you wonder why people rage out.

[SamwiseRed]

ye aint no body got time for this.