View Full Version : Proposal: Ban Cross server trading between red and blue
Giovanni
01-25-2013, 11:42 PM
Would you support banning cross server trading between red and blue?
Jenni D
01-25-2013, 11:56 PM
Nicky Coats will NOT be happy about this
Giovanni
01-26-2013, 12:03 AM
Better cash out while you still can. Transfers to/from Legends Server are about to be denied.
Jenni D
01-26-2013, 12:11 AM
nicholas coats care to comment?
Jenni D
01-26-2013, 12:12 AM
a certain nihilum member is about to be homeless and starving if this goes ahead
Rettii
01-26-2013, 12:23 AM
things are in motion to ban this type of trading says inside sources
Giovanni
01-26-2013, 12:33 AM
Mellowyellow selling furiously
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTF711MzAdszNvHWI0wzsrtHCgbS9YX z_DVInNOgcCoMRb7df9cQ
Jenni D
01-26-2013, 12:33 AM
***BREAKING NEWS***
After trade sanctions were introduced on the elf and dragon fantasy role playing game server "Project 1999 Red", the guild "Nihilum" has come under threat as angry parents still demand rent and burrito payments.
More to follow.
Graahle
01-26-2013, 01:35 AM
***BREAKING NEWS***
After trade sanctions were introduced on the elf and dragon fantasy role playing game server "Project 1999 Red", the guild "Nihilum" has come under threat as angry parents still demand rent and burrito payments.
More to follow.
Oh my god rofl
Labanen
01-26-2013, 08:31 AM
Lol
Proverbs28
01-26-2013, 10:38 AM
in all seriousness .
i would say yes, ban it because it creates unbalance n economy etc.
only downside is.
i know a ton of people who came to red by buying stuff with blue pp. i feel had they been unable to do this they would never of played,
so it could effect server pop. only negative side i see banning it
funhorroryes
01-26-2013, 11:33 AM
i think the only thing that should be bannable is trading from USD to blue or red
Dark Team
01-26-2013, 01:18 PM
I have always been opposed to characters being sold or traded. Alas, opposed is not the equivalent of condemned; at least not yet. My official stance to date has been these instances are 'frowned upon'.
When I initially launched the server, there were far more pressing matters on which to attend than policing trades. However, cases of players petitioning they were cheated on deals involving shared or traded accounts, I have declined to offer my assistance. Character sales or trades currently fall under 'at your own risk' situations.
That being said, there will come a time where this is against server rules. I hope that time is sooner than later, but heed this warning. Do not have your account in escrow, trade, or consignment for extended periods of time.
You might ask, how can we stop this? Whether it be through linked forum accounts, access codes, etc, I would prefer to prevent these situations than to seemingly condone them.
Dark Team
01-26-2013, 01:28 PM
It is pretty bad that they allow trading from red to blue. Platlord site even suggests purchasing blue plat, with a link to red trading forum.
"Not seeing an item you like? Click this link, and you can trade blue plat for red plat / items, just buy blue 99 plat from me."
http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59
Tr0llb0rn
01-26-2013, 01:54 PM
I have always been opposed to characters being sold or traded. Alas, opposed is not the equivalent of condemned; at least not yet. My official stance to date has been these instances are 'frowned upon'.
When I initially launched the server, there were far more pressing matters on which to attend than policing trades. However, cases of players petitioning they were cheated on deals involving shared or traded accounts, I have declined to offer my assistance. Character sales or trades currently fall under 'at your own risk' situations.
That being said, there will come a time where this is against server rules. I hope that time is sooner than later, but heed this warning. Do not have your account in escrow, trade, or consignment for extended periods of time.
You might ask, how can we stop this? Whether it be through linked forum accounts, access codes, etc, I would prefer to prevent these situations than to seemingly condone them.
The sooner this happens the better, it would solve so many problems in one fell swoop, both here on the forums and in game.
There is nothing classic about this plauge of constant character buying/selling. And it facilitates a huge underground black market of those "trades that shall not be mentioned".
We need SMS Account Authentication asap too:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42978
The symptom of "FTP", a never ending supply of new accounts and the habit of placeing a single toon on each account is not classic and brings with it many different evils. You can see this first hand on eqmac now that its free to play (i.e. as many accounts as you want).
I suggest a limit of two accounts per individual, that would allow people to ultimatly play every class there is if they would wish and would bring a ton of accountability to the player knowning all his eggs so to speak, are in one basket. Account tied to the indiviual and not transferable, just like the classic sony EQ policy.
In the same spirit as no-two-boxing rule exists to foster a classic community, we should tackle the other issues around here too that work against a "classic community" on the forums, and in game.
Yes we can. Yes we can.
Giovanni
01-26-2013, 01:54 PM
Essentially, allowing trade between red/blue means that the pvp server isn't a closed ecosystem. It's similar to Sullon Zek when they allowed Legends transfers. People would return to Sullon with loot from Legends that they could have never acquired otherwise on the server. One guy showed up with full plane of time gear on a ranger when no one was even keyed for plane of time.
Server /ooc getting is spammed with chinese gold sellers and half the trade forum posts are trying to move plat between red/blue for rmt.
http://i47.tinypic.com/x0zg4h.png
Giovanni
01-26-2013, 02:08 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/uow41.png
funhorroryes
01-26-2013, 02:14 PM
lol at necromancer research
watbab
01-26-2013, 04:42 PM
16 bluebies voted to keep their cross-server trading without defending it. Not surprised.
Not sure how anyone can argue with the above image.
heartbrand
01-26-2013, 05:17 PM
Because I'm a libertarian and don't give a fuck what people do
Rushmore
01-26-2013, 05:58 PM
Who cares? Let the free market happen!
Giovanni
05-02-2013, 12:02 AM
Bump. We don't need people like the guy below laundering his dirty pixels on red.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107128
Agatha
05-02-2013, 03:29 AM
we should just ban trades all together. for plat or not, just disable trading.
Num1RecommendedByDentists
05-02-2013, 04:09 AM
tl;dr
i don't read anything written by scumlords
bubur
05-02-2013, 04:20 AM
forget it
trolls gonna troll
voters gonna vote
Agatha
05-02-2013, 08:06 AM
tl;dr
i don't read anything written by scumlords
scumlords gonna platlord, nawmean?
Num1RecommendedByDentists
05-02-2013, 08:08 AM
wow he even deleted his essay length post
Smedy
05-02-2013, 08:25 AM
down with the stockbroker trading scum
pretty obvious 90% maybe more of cross server trading is involved with RMT.
i know what i'd be tracking if i wanted to bust some RMTers :)
Nirgon
05-02-2013, 11:39 AM
Good to see the blue server is flooded out with platinum because of RMT and that can translate over to red now
bubur
05-02-2013, 12:16 PM
feel like the goddamn boston bomber over here
if you want to know how i got money just look at my posts. tons of blue trading went on in the first month of this account's creation, which was initially sparked by an account sale, then another account sale, then another, now im here
not saying other peeps dont do that rmt shit but i got nothing to hide
if you wanna get pissed at me for selling accounts in the first place, and then trying to jumpstart my red account with legit blue gains, be my guest, rustle on
if those things ever became officially banned, i would stop immediately
Bamzal Sherbet
05-02-2013, 12:16 PM
wtt my 50k red for 500k blue pst
Kraftwerk
05-02-2013, 01:35 PM
wtt my 50k red for 500k blue pst
If people start offering 10:1 Blue:Red ratios I might consider liquidating my red plat, but I'd rather just wait for 20:1.
Malevz
05-02-2013, 04:00 PM
I voted No.
Here's what I don't get. You trade some nice item on red for blue plat. You have this mountain of blue plat... and it can't be used on red server, only on blue. Wtf good is that.
Nirgon
05-02-2013, 04:14 PM
Not like the EQ devs tried to maintain the economy with cash sinks or any care for in game economy/scaling otherwise.
Guilty as fuck of this trading as Samrothstein blue->red made a fortune both ways.. its bad.
fiegi 6.5
05-02-2013, 05:59 PM
bubur's plat dirty as fuck called this in this trade forum thread a few nights back
claims he unloaded it but I know better.
Faerie Blossom
05-02-2013, 06:51 PM
I bet the red server was made just to be used as a plat sink for blue. Why else would they allow trading between servers? They knew about the future economic problems there and were thinking ahead.
Reddi
05-02-2013, 07:11 PM
bubur's plat dirty as fuck called this in this trade forum thread a few nights back
claims he unloaded it but I know better.
Smells like a brothel
lol. For once - once in years and years of running circles with you asshats..
I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DONT KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOW :cool:
non-retards can PM me for the scoop
Doors
05-02-2013, 11:54 PM
I bet the red server was made just to be used as a plat sink for blue. Why else would they allow trading between servers? They knew about the future economic problems there and were thinking ahead.
wut
Swish
05-02-2013, 11:56 PM
Smells like a brothel
haha... seriously though, I don't see a problem with the trading between servers and it wasn't so long ago during the low population of 13 online (EU hours) that people were cashing out on red for blue plat.
Suddenly the opposite is happening and its a big issue...how many people who voted to ban the cross server trading took advantage of bluebies cashing out on red during that time?
None that will admit to it, of course :rolleyes:
bubur
05-03-2013, 12:04 AM
bubur's plat dirty as fuck called this in this trade forum thread a few nights back
claims he unloaded it but I know better.
Smells like a brothel
http://global3.memecdn.com/Go-On_o_128599.jpg
fiegi 6.5
05-03-2013, 01:26 AM
no u
Reddi
05-03-2013, 01:35 AM
http://troll.me/images/soon-my-pretty/tell-me-when-you-smell-something-fishy.jpg
bubur
05-03-2013, 01:43 AM
7/10 bonus points for using someone vaguely indonesian looking
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