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Ropethunder
06-08-2010, 09:23 PM
This spell says that it should heal between 126 and 240 points of damage. But at level 50 is only heals 200.

Droxx
06-08-2010, 09:34 PM
This is just a shot in the dark, but the fact that the spell scales on level (126-240 in this case) leads me to believe that it scales to level 60, and 200 is where it fits the scale for level 50.

Uaellaen
06-08-2010, 10:02 PM
correct!

Sarkhan
07-15-2010, 12:19 PM
Renew summoning is also giving a heal message saying how much it heals for... I was under the belief that its not supposed to do that in classic.. my lvl 8 pet heal "Renew Elements" does not give a message.

mmiles8
07-15-2010, 12:58 PM
Whether a heal gives a message is determined by the amount it heals for. Heals gave messages in classic, they actually gave more messages than they do now. Now, they don't display a value for heals under a certain amount (<100 or 150 I think)

Falisaty
07-15-2010, 04:28 PM
yes but as of right now because of the 10% healing t hing for what ever that was just implemented it now only heals for 180

Bumamgar
07-16-2010, 09:56 AM
I'm testing a fix for this right now, should be in next patch!

Uaellaen
07-16-2010, 10:08 AM
tbh, those heals are not classic .. they came way later with luclin i belive ... so imho they should be taken out completly

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1504&source=Live

and also http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/pricing.html?item=9036#pricing

3pp 0gp 0sp 0cp GnosisX May 17th, 2002 @ 08:41:52 PM

First price entry made in 2002

guineapig
07-16-2010, 10:47 AM
tbh, those heals are not classic .. they came way later with luclin i belive ... so imho they should be taken out completly

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1504&source=Live

and also http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/pricing.html?item=9036#pricing



First price entry made in 2002

The Lucy database doesn't go as far back as classic era so that's not a good source.

Uaellaen
07-16-2010, 10:53 AM
yeah, true ... it may have been released with kunark actualy ... but vanilla had no such thing as pet heals, definatly ... so those spells are still 3 months early, at least

guineapig
07-16-2010, 10:56 AM
I've actually questioned why they were in the game a few times already going as far back as November. Never got a solid answer.

Insedeel
07-16-2010, 11:04 AM
tbh, those heals are not classic .. they came way later with luclin i belive ... so imho they should be taken out completly

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1504&source=Live

and also http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/pricing.html?item=9036#pricing



First price entry made in 2002

*cough* http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11220&page=3 *cough*

*sneeze* 8th level Mages LISTEN
Posted: Jul 02 2000 9:04pm

3) Watch you pets life and when it gets to 50%, cast the renew element spell. *sneeze*

Sheesh, excuse me, must be allergies.. ;)

But on a serious note, I remember specifically using the pet healing spells in at least the kunark era, can't remember for sure though in original pre-kunark.

Uaellaen
07-16-2010, 11:15 AM
yeah i checked the spdat.eff from the kunark CD, it was on kunark, but not on the vanilla CD ...

Someone has a old spdat.eff from shortly before kunark was released?

Insedeel
07-16-2010, 11:19 AM
yeah i checked the spdat.eff from the kunark CD, it was on kunark, but not on the vanilla CD ...

Someone has a old spdat.eff from shortly before kunark was released?

Yea, although unfortunately I kind of doubt they'll change this now when Kunark is so close to being released (yes I consider a few months close hehe).. Haynar himself said in the pet healing threat thread that he doesn't really want to remove them, only to be readding them in a little bit, so these I would assume will probably stay. If they do remove them though, that's fine too if they truly weren't in in classic.

I may nor may not take out pet healing for mages. I hate taking it out, then only have to put it back in awhile later. It is not fun making changes multiple times. If there weren't so many other things to fix too, it would be another story.

Haynar

dali_lb
07-19-2010, 08:44 AM
To be honest. Those pet heals don't matter that much to ballance. Considder it a trade off that Pet melee dmg was considerably higher in vanila. and now you have a small pet heal earlier than it was used to be.
The pet heals cost a lot of mana to cast(at lower lvl's), and they scale, so even its a half decent heal at around lvl 20 for too much mana compared to a nuke. it never heals more than 20% at those levels on a low hp fire pet.
At lvl 50 it heals 5% of an Earth pet. Not even worth memorizing.

Its about as unballancing as if Paladin got minor healing at lvl 1 and SK's lifetap instead of lvl 9 ... no big deal.

Lets get some real bugs fixed instead

Tomato King6
06-01-2013, 12:14 PM
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Agatha
06-01-2013, 08:30 PM
you just bumped a 2 and a half year old post. wtf. wtf wtf wtf? i admire your dedication and bordem