Squallsurge Shawl...100k...OBO

[Fatch]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1034

If your interested PST to Fatch in game...serious offers only plz

[eqdruid76]

ROFL

[Nen]

Are you insane?

[Malrubius]

C'mon guys, sense of humor. Great ad, Fatch.

[Stepy]

Give you 1kpp for it. :p

[PearlJammzz]

That's a lot of mana for a shoulder slot, and the effect is pretty damn nice (not sure how many items in classic have that?). That being said 100k is laughable, but a few k isn't extremely far-fetched. Would be a SUPER sick Necro piece.

That + Robe of the Kedge = yummy :-p

[astarothel]

(not sure how many items in classic have that?)

Not this item either. Most items had Focus effects added in later. Pretty sure this one is no exception.

[Fatch]

These are the best int caster shoulders in the game... and have you ever seen them for sale? no...

[Nen]

These are the best int caster shoulders in the game... and have you ever seen them for sale? no...

Dude, you're crazy. No one is going to give you 100k for those. I get that you're trying to HUGELY increase the price on them but you'd be lucky to get 3k for them. :P

[astarothel]

These are the best int caster shoulders in the game... and have you ever seen them for sale? no...

Actually, if you're an Erud necro, no they aren't. See: Mantle of Souls.

Also, just because an item is rarely for sale doesn't mean it is worth a lot. I have seen just as many Abalone Gorgets for sale in two and a half months as I have Squallsurges, that being two of each. Both are BiS preplanar, and both take the same difficulty to acquire, yet the Abalone is 6-7k. Hmmmm...

Conclusion: 100k ? Drop an order of magnitude.

[Fatch]

Actually, if you're an Erud necro, no they aren't. See: Mantle of Souls

Your the smartest guy ever

[astarothel]

Your the smartest guy ever

You're entitled to your opinion. I won't deny you that.

[Fatch]

I want you to link me int caster shoulders that are better than these in Kunark (excluding raid targets)

[eqdruid76]

R O F L

[Stepy]

I forgot all about the Mantle of Souls Quest and since i am a Erud necro i will have to lower my offer to 200pp since the shawl would be a downgrade. ;)

[Yoite]

you might get 10k. Good luck with that 100k... lol

[Neach]

Well 100k is high. Doesn't mean he wants that OBO means make a good offer and maybe he will work something out with you. Then again I can't think of any dropable shoulders in kunark for int casters other then raid that are this good. If someone knows link em. Plus these aren't exactly easy to come by with kedge as fucked up as it is and as rare as those are. I applaud people willing to sell these when they obviously will be good into kunark.

[Yoite]

oh im not denying that the are indeed awesome shoulders, i just dont see them on the same price range as like an AoN

[Fatch]

Well Im open for offers. If you want these shoulders..make an offer.

[pickled_heretic]

I'm surprised this thread has generated so much drama. His list price is 100k OBO - if it's not worth 100k to anyone he's not going to get 100k for it. No reason to pitch a fit about it.

[Stepy]

Why shouldn't the consumers be allowed to "pitch a fit" about perceived obscene prices? We all know once Kedge is more relable then it will be camped and prices will fall in line.

[Reiker]

a) Good luck on Kedge becoming "more reliable"
b) You can't really camp these. First of all, the respawn time itself is very long. Second of all, the named is very rare. Third of all, the shawl itself is a rare drop. And lastly, the mob is borderline impossible to solo. I'm sure it's possible and it's most likely been done, but getting this item solo would be quite a feat. I hit this spawn every PH/named for awhile and all I got was my mage epic piece. I think I got the server first wand, or at least very close to that, and that wasn't until many months after P99 launched.

[pickled_heretic]

think about it this way... if the effort it took for him to get 1 mantle was equal to the effort it takes one necromancer to camp 10 fbss and store them on corpses and sell them over the course of a couple of days, then 100k would not be an unreasonable price.

[Reiker]

I want you to link me int caster shoulders that are better than these in Kunark (excluding raid targets)

Comparable/arguably better: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5725 & http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5747

[Skope]

think about it this way... if the effort it took for him to get 1 mantle was equal to the effort it takes one necromancer to camp 10 fbss and store them on corpses and sell them over the course of a couple of days, then 100k would not be an unreasonable price.

it's still unreasonable... flayed turmoilskin belts drop VERY rarely and they sell for 1-2k and that's a PoFear drop, how in the hell do you justify these shoulders to be priced 100x more than the belt? You need at least 2 groups to even manage to break in and then it'll take you a couple hours to get the pulls required to down all froggies.

In EQ the OBO was meant to be tagged to an item that's already priced fairly or slightly higher. the seller is well aware that they won't be able to sell the item quickly, thus an OBO means they'd go slightly lower. Slightly lower than 100k is still about 90k too high.

Kedge is broken but not to the extent that many believe. just invis and if you know your way around and you'll be fine.

The PC on the shoulders should be 3-5k tops.

[Reiker]

Dude there's like 1000000x flayed turmoilskin belts on this server compared to squallsurge shawls and that's barely an exaggeration. Back when I played my mage I had a shaman and a cleric belt on alts while the Squallsurge Shawl was like the only upgrade I still didn't have for my main. It's easily in the very top tier of hardest to obtain classic items.

I would buy Squallsurge Shawls at 3-5k plat ALL DAY.

[Neach]

Reiker, I like the two you linked. although they come off lvl 55 mobs(which arent easy) in tech a raid zone. Both of which wont be available when kunark comes out for awhile.

Thaughts:
-Mobs on 8 hour respawn
-Rare chance to spawn
-Rare loot drop
-not easily obtained
-Chances someone is gonna sell best int caster shoulders in the game atm that isnt nodrop/quested/diety specific ect..

- dealing with kedge's BS to actually obtain these. . .Priceless :-)

Anyways the time to obtain these vs If you were to farm plat straight up from guards/giants or items is actually comparable to more or less 50k

Granted there will eventually be more on server, but as of now there aren't many and its not like kedge is a place people love to go and die all day long. When kunark is realease it will be a good 2+ months you start seeing those other shoulders starting to show up seldom.

[Reiker]

Those 2 mobs are easily one-groupable in Kunark.

[Neach]

Skope ObO could mean your best offer? where do you get designating it as a set amount or "slight" variation?

Flayed turmoil skin? Lets think Shm only, limits that class hella alot not to mention there arent a large amount of shm running around finger fuckin fart-holes with 2k shit packed. Unless they are an alt!

To compare a price like that to an item that is all int casters with a wide range of classes. . . really?

PLUS doy uo people really go to wall-mart and start shiting bricks bitching cause of a price or do you walk away and say "I'm not payin that" Good point neach!

So shut that pie eating, fist recepticle you call a mouth.

[Stepy]

So because a Necromance might camp Frenzy for weeks and get 10 FBSS and sell then for 10k each, the rest of us have to come up with 100k or do without the shawl?
Like with many other items once Kunark goes live poeple will find better stuff and these classic items will drop greatly in value, i can wait.

[Neach]

Exactly and so with velious. . Its gonna happen but not as much as you would like to throw at it for the next 4 months. in 4 months I could farm up 300k

[Stepy]

Well this isn't Walmart and the shawl isn't a brick. ;)
And i do complain if something cost more that it should and you don't want to be the waiter/waitress thats gets my order wrong. :rolleyes:

[Pico]

Would a 2 AC breastplate with no stats go for 50k if it only dropped once every year?

Rarity does add some value, but there's still a limit.

[Stepy]

Maybe i will move to kedge and farm the squallsurge and run back to EC and auction them till they people won't offer more that 500pp. =P

[Neach]

True Pico... But 2ac breastplate isn't really best int shoulders atm that can be traded! Shazam! Do you guys think before you speak? Your looking at it from a negative standpoint single view.

[Neach]

Look just because you guys don't have it and cant use it doesn't mean you got to hate;-) Right on fatch master.

[Stepy]

That is true you can't base price on rarity but on demand and since the the price of 100k has not been met i can assume that fair market price has yet to be met.

[Skope]

That is true you can't base price on rarity but on demand and since the the price of 100k has not been met i can assume that fair market price has yet to be met.

I've seen the shawl sell for 10ish and that was about a month ago, and I still thought that was expensive.

Inflating prices might work on fools, unfortunately you're also posting it on the forums where it's open to comments by those who aren't fools.

[pickled_heretic]

So because a Necromance might camp Frenzy for weeks and get 10 FBSS and sell then for 10k each, the rest of us have to come up with 100k or do without the shawl?
Like with many other items once Kunark goes live poeple will find better stuff and these classic items will drop greatly in value, i can wait.

Yes, you have to come up with 100k, or whatever he decides to sell the shawl at. Why should he undersell because you don't have the same moneymaking capacity as a necromancer who is willing to solo frenzy for weeks? You're not everyone, and not everyone shares your opinion or outlook.

Would a 2 AC breastplate with no stats go for 50k if it only dropped once every year?

Rarity does add some value, but there's still a limit.

Non sequitur. Not only is the shawl rare, it is also the best droppable item you can put in that slot for most casters. Your example is completely pointless.

Listen - I have no dog in this fight except for consistency. I don't even know this guy but if this item is rare AND the best droppable, he should be well compensated for his work in acquiring it. But you guys who are cricizing him need to realize that you aren't the only people on this server. Just because you're a casual, family-oriented player doesn't mean that everyone else is.

[Stepy]

The price of 10ish doesn't sound too unreasonable if it was a first but after that you can expect the the value to decrease as some us don't have 10k lying around. Obviously there needs to be some wealth redistribution here, it's not fair that only the rich can afford these exotic items.


/sarcasm

[Pico]

Non sequitur. Not only is the shawl rare, it is also the best droppable item you can put in that slot for most casters. Your example is completely pointless.

Listen - I have no dog in this fight except for consistency. I don't even know this guy but if this item is rare AND the best droppable, he should be well compensated for his work in acquiring it. But you guys who are cricizing him need to realize that you aren't the only people on this server. Just because you're a casual, family-oriented player doesn't mean that everyone else is.

I don't think you know what a non sequitur is but anyways all I said is rarity will only increase an item value so much and that's completely true. It still has to stand up on it's own (which the shawl does to a certain extent). Is the shawl a great item? Of course. Is it worth THREE manastones? I personally don't think so.

But good luck trying to get 100k, I wouldn't be surprised if someone's a sucker enough to do it.

[Stepy]

Actually i can make plenty without having to box or noob it up in Guk to corner the market on items that will be replaced with much better items once Kunark is live. I was making over 5k a week just soloing HG's but that doesn't mean i will rush out and pay above what i deem as fair market price.

[pickled_heretic]

Actually i can make plenty without having to box or noob it up in Guk to corner the market on items that will be replaced with much better items once Kunark is live. I was making over 5k a week just soloing HG's but that doesn't mean i will rush out and pay above what i deem as fair market price.

Considering some people can make 3k an hour soloing seafuries, I don't think you're anywhere near the top end of the bracket as far as earning potential goes.

[Stepy]

Lucky folks, i was soloing those thing as well and 1 of 5 dropped a gem of value after 2 days i moved on. I must not have been killing the right Seafuries i may have to return and find this ideal spot.

[pickled_heretic]

I don't think you know what a non sequitur is but anyways all I said is rarity will only increase an item value so much and that's completely true. It still has to stand up on it's own (which the shawl does to a certain extent). Is the shawl a great item? Of course. Is it worth THREE manastones? I personally don't think so.

But good luck trying to get 100k, I wouldn't be surprised if someone's a sucker enough to do it.

First of all, this is the age of wikipedia. Anyone can find out what "non sequitur" means if they don't know offhand, and your original example was, in fact, a non sequitur. You claimed that a chest item with the worst AC in the game would not sell well based on rarity alone. Well, we're not talking about a chest item with the worst AC in the game, we're talking about a mantle with the best caster stats in the game.

Secondly, I'm not selling it, and I'm not buying it. I don't even have a class that can use it and I don't know the person who is selling it. As I said, I'm only here to defend logical consistency. If you can't afford it, don't whine to others that it should be cheap enough that you can.

Lucky folks, i was soloing those thing as well and 1 of 5 dropped a gem of value after 2 days i moved on. I must not have been killing the right Seafuries i may have to return and find this ideal spot.

Or maybe you're taking too long to kill them? :O

[Stepy]

"Or maybe you're taking too long to kill them? :O"

I'm a necro so i find it very unlikely! :D

[Neach]

Actually necros are slow killers vs mage! ALL MAGE ALL DAY! go big or go home!

[Reiker]

I've seen the shawl sell for 10ish and that was about a month ago, and I still thought that was expensive.

You also have to consider that as the population of P99 rises exponentially, the value of a piece of platinum will also decrease exponentially. A couple months into the game, an FBSS was worth 1-2k. Now that there's multitudes more, I'm seeing them for 4-5k+.

[Neach]

Look ill sell mine right here right now 50k Or maybe items trades of equal or close to value!

[pickled_heretic]

You also have to consider that as the population of P99 rises exponentially, the value of a piece of platinum will also decrease exponentially. A couple months into the game, an FBSS was worth 1-2k. Now that there's multitudes more, I'm seeing them for 4-5k+.

I see them advertised currently for 10k on a regular basis.

[Reiker]

Well there you go. 1000% markup over 5-6 months. Item prices are close to doubling every month or so given our rate of plat inflation.

[Stepy]

"Actually necros are slow killers vs mage! ALL MAGE ALL DAY! go big or go home!"

Oh yeah!!!! well we get feign death and mages get ummm... Rezzes. :p

[Reiker]

If you have to FD against HGs/Seafuries you're doing it wrong.

[Stepy]

Well the discussions was Necro vs mages as killing machines, not FDing HG's or furies. I save FD for going afk! :o

[Fatch]

Shawl is sold...thank you very much...have a good day

[eqdruid76]

R O F L

[Pyrocat]

Shawl is sold...thank you very much...have a good day

for how much

[mitic]

oh /snip! and i was about to ask if you could do 95k!

this fine item would have stayed in my inventory forever! there is nothing comparabe in kunark or velious!!!!!!

[mitic]

Considering some people can make 3k an hour soloing seafuries, I don't think you're anywhere near the top end of the bracket as far as earning potential goes.

3k an hour would be around 35 seafuries. not counting the chance of a drop at 25% each kill

:rolleyes:

[Neach]

Sold mine for approx. 55-60k in plat/trades. Now I'm upset I don't have them. But hopefully I can get another pair within a months time*cross fingers*

[pickled_heretic]

The market has spoken. Sounds like these shawls sell for about 50-100k. Haters gonna hate, fatch.

3k an hour would be around 35 seafuries. not counting the chance of a drop at 25% each kill

:rolleyes:

considering the drops can sell for 100+ that's kind of an important component you're missing.

[Stepy]

"3k an hour would be around 35 seafuries. not counting the chance of a drop at 25% each kill"

I must have been killing Seafuries on the poor side of town, mine only dropped 4-5pp per on average with the occasional cash gem. I got a measly 42kp out of HG's so i happy with that, it will all be used on twinks and research anyway.

[matahari]

On a perfect hour at seafuries it's 1900p when 90perc drops gems with 2 people.
Over a 3hour period 3600p is average with 2 people.
On a bad hour it's 300p.

I am talking about clearing the entire island as they pop. Nowadays the island is packed and hard to endlessly chain pull. That cuts down plat per hour a lot.

Anyway the shawl is a very very nice item. It has the most mana outside of raid items and the eru necro insane shoulder. Plane of air shoulder quests are better, but those take a lot of work. When a solo druid or ench can get the shawl once a week.. 30kish Just my opinion maybe it is worth 60k+. Manastone that no longer drops is 40k. The shawl will keep dropping and is 100k?. I do understand it is the last hard piece outside of raids for most int casters to get. That is why it brings such a big price tag.

Remember that 255intel is max. Not 200 like live. So a 3int shoulder is about 50mana + at level 60! Unless you have 255int "which is very possible" or they change it so 200 int/wis is the soft cap.*

It is worth whatever someone will pay/trade for it i guess.

[mitic]

considering the drops can sell for 100+ that's kind of an important component you're missing.

looks more like youve never done SF on this server

[voydent]

i would buy that shawl too for 50-60k if i had the money.

people who actually tried to get a group going and kill undertow for the shawl will understand what "Kedge BS" is all about.

most of the 'farmers' in lguk can get 10-20k easy per day if they put their minds into camping. Is the shawl worth 3-4 days of hardcore lguk camping effort? sure why not?

if you are a perfectionist and want the very best item that money can buy for your character, i dont see why you should not spend 50-60k for this item if you have 200kpp+ in your bank.

/shrug

value. it's a mysterious thing. if everyone sees and values the world the same way as i do, Classic Everquest monthly subscription fees would be US$80/month and people will still subscribe to play. (and WOW will never exist)

[Bruster]

Your the smartest guy ever

hehemeat

[eqdruid76]

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