Bard mez bugged in PvP

[Tune]

100% resist rate even on naked people

seems like players are immune

fix prz !

[Lazortag]

It has a level cap of 55, because mobs have that level cap. However in classic, players were not affected by level caps on spells, so it should still have a chance of landing.

[Wolfgang]

100% resist rate even on naked people

seems like players are immune

fix prz !

I am not trolling, but seriously when will you guys ever post evidence? I am not saying you are lying but how hard would it be to play a mez song for a few minutes on a guildie and screenshot the resists. In fact, it can practically be done afk for hours. Cmon bros you have the dev team in your guild, you know better.

[Sickpuppy]

Confirms working properly dék mezd me full geared at135 mr last night first shot

[Wolfgang]

but Tune said 100%, someone here is a liar!

[Lazortag]

Confirms working properly dék mezd me full geared at135 mr last night first shot

Are you at least level 56? The problem is that it has a level cap, which makes it appear to have a 100% resist rate on many players.

[Tune]

looks like i was able to mez a lvl 52 guys

trying to see if it works 55+ sickpuppy what song hit u?

[Tune]

doesnt work on high lvl players , should only have a lvl cap in pve right?

[Kilbur]

Pretty are u mezzed me everytime outside KC with 157 mr. Couldn't even land my fastest mez before your mez hit and interrupted me... Lvl 58

[Nizzarr]

thats not a mez

[SamwiseRed]

for sure you can mez players up to 52, my 40 bard was AoE mezzing my group without a problem. one thing i did notice is aoe mez landed way more often than single target mez.

[Tune]

yeah there is currently a level requirement on mez in both pve and PVP .... the PVP one needs to be removed plz fix

[SamwiseRed]

evidence? get your entire guild to stand near you while yo aoe mez and posts resists. im not calling you a liar but you and mellow seem to be lacking evidence on your bug reports.

[Lazortag]

evidence? get your entire guild to stand near you while yo aoe mez and posts resists. im not calling you a liar but you and mellow seem to be lacking evidence on your bug reports.

I'm pretty sure it was just that most 56+ mobs were immune to being stunned, so the mez didn't actually have a "level cap", it's just that all mobs above a certain level would resist it automatically. The subtle difference is that it could still affect players. I realize this isn't evidence, just my impression of how it worked and why there was a difference in pvp. However, in classic most decently geared players would probably resist mezzes 100% of the time at level 60 so I'm not sure how much difference this makes.

[SamwiseRed]

True, I dont think it would take too much time to grab a group of 60s, have them strip mr gear off, and play AoE mez song for a few minutes. Screenshot all the resists or post the log. I don't doubt something is wrong if chanters and bards are complaining but some kind of proof would be nice.

edit: also where art thou Null?

[Tune]

enchanter mez is bugged the same way now too....

guess ill post some logs

[Tune]

it definitely works on lobies under level 55, this i have tested

[Nizzarr]

Glamour will land on level 56 players, any other mez wont even give a resist message anymore.

up until a few days ago, you could still use dazzle/mesmerize on lvl 60 players.

so tl;dr: any players over lvl 57 is immune to mezmerize as it stands now except rapture.

[Tune]

bump, evidence comming

[SamwiseRed]

Glamour will land on level 56 players, any other mez wont even give a resist message anymore.

up until a few days ago, you could still use dazzle/mesmerize on lvl 60 players.

so tl;dr: any players over lvl 57 is immune to mezmerize as it stands now except rapture.

damn ill never be immune then

[Nirgon]

Players shouldn't be affected by lvl restrictions on spells like this

[BigSlip]

immune to poon

[Tune]

ok the 2 songs being looked at here is the lvl 53 mez (song of twilight - you hear the music of twilight) and lvl 15 aoe mez (kelin's lucid lullaby - you feel quite drowsy )

working as intended on lvl 52 here

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2980/eq000020.jpg

when these songs are casted on a level 60 there are no resist messages for the victim , there is a message for the user though

[Wed Jan 23 12:57:25 2013] Beginning to memorize Kelin`s Lucid Lullaby...
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:26 2013] You have finished memorizing Kelin`s Lucid Lullaby.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:28 2013] Beginning to memorize Song of Twilight...
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:29 2013] You have finished memorizing Song of Twilight.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:34 2013] Your inspiration fades.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:37 2013] You play the music of twilight.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:40 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:45 2013] You invite Dink to join your group.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:46 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:52 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:52 2013] You have formed the group.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:52 2013] Dink has joined the group.
[Wed Jan 23 12:57:58 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:04 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:10 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:14 2013] You tell your party, 'do u even get a resist message for this?'
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:16 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:19 2013] Dink tells the group, 'no'
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:22 2013] Your target resisted the Song of Twilight spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:22 2013] Your song ends.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:25 2013] Your target resisted the Kelin`s Lucid Lullaby spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:26 2013] You tell your party, 'what about this'
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:28 2013] Dink tells the group, 'u wont either'
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:30 2013] Dink tells the group, 'for my mes'
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:31 2013] Your target resisted the Kelin`s Lucid Lullaby spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:37 2013] Your target resisted the Kelin`s Lucid Lullaby spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:43 2013] Dink tells the group, 'nothing'
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:44 2013] Your target resisted the Kelin`s Lucid Lullaby spell.
[Wed Jan 23 12:58:46 2013] Dink begins to cast a spell.

this leads me to beleive this bug is level associated

[Sickpuppy]

Are you at least level 56? The problem is that it has a level cap, which makes it appear to have a 100% resist rate on many players.

im 60 mage got mezd the first shot on dek that day at 135 mr

[Sickpuppy]

we need to see some screenshots tune who knows if dink was realy buffed or not ... you mezing a guildie that is in TS with u means nothing to me . show an actualy screenshot of dink resisting and haveing no buffs

[Nizzarr]

what? dink wont even know hes getting cast on. Theres no message. The resist message is only on the casters part

[Nirgon]

Can't really help much more than this:

During test of tactics time on live, I watched team Hidden Power practice a bit.

I watched Ssok, uber bard, actually keep a mez on a well geared player while beating down another. Pretty ownage to see. He did have a tash orb, can't recall whether or not it proc'd because I was in tells etc. But it definitely should work on 60s.

Resist rate.. eh... consult the lucy, so far I've been paging through that on and off and it holds up to what I remember. I can't really find something I'd say "it didn't work like that!" to yet.

[SamwiseRed]

shouldnt you post the dinks log instead? also try doing it to yourself.

[Tune]

im 60 mage got mezd the first shot on dek that day at 135 mr

id like to see a screen shot of this plz

we have stuns as well as mez, think sickpuppy is mistaken

there is NO message for a resist on high lvl players

[SamwiseRed]

id like to see a screen shot of this plz

we have stuns as well as mez, think sickpuppy is mistaken

there is NO message for a resist on high lvl players

proof, evidence, ect? i dont understand how someone can claim something in a bug report but is too lazy to ss it... show screen of the person getting mezzed not having a message up. pretty simple.

[Tune]

dudes... there is no message for the person being mezd.

plz tell me how im supposed to screen shot that

plz let me know what to do as this is very frustrating and im not lying.

[SamwiseRed]

easy, cast it on yourself then post screenshots.

not SS and not logs, need to see who you are targeting ect. just hide mq

[Dullah]

This problem is really simple. Currently mez for bards and enchanters are taking player level into account and it should not. Right now a 55+ player can only be raptured. Low level mez's don't even have a resist check, they are just ignored outright. No message displayed at all showing the bard/enchanter even tried to mez me.

This needs to be fixed, but a video or logs might help get dev attention.

[Rettii]

This problem is really simple. Currently mez for bards and enchanters are taking player level into account and it should not. Right now a 55+ player can only be raptured. Low level mez's don't even have a resist check, they are just ignored outright. No message displayed at all showing the bard/enchanter even tried to mez me.

This needs to be fixed, but a video or logs might help get dev attention.

Working as intended.

Rapture only viable mez 55+

Integrity.

[Cwall 52.0]

"we want all classes to be viable at all levels"

lol

lol

lol

L O L

[Nirgon]

Quite a few unresistable spells currently exist as well as ones that ignore line of sight, range checks, have the wrong cast times or otherwise drown my immersion in a half full sink of dirty water.

Sirken has assured us to not worry and that none of this will be changed.

See you out there.

[Dullah]

Quite a few unresistable spells currently exist as well as ones that ignore line of sight, range checks, have the wrong cast times or otherwise drown my immersion in a half full sink of dirty water.

Sirken has assured us to not worry and that none of this will be changed.

See you out there.

Thats completely irrelevant to the mesmerize spells/songs that used to work, but since the last patch no longer do anything in pvp.

Not that I expect it to be fixed, but trolling the bug thread with other bugs is not helping anyone.

[Rettii]

no longer do anything cus working as intended

carry on

[Lime]

Enchanter mez line also bugged in pvp.

Mesmerise, Enthrall, Entrance, dazzle capped at level 55 players

Glamour of Kintaz capped at lvl 57 players

Rapture only enchanter mez that works on lvl 58+

Needs a fix so enchanters can pvp higher levels, thanks!

Easily testable in game.

[Something'Witty]

I am curious about the GMs/ Devs thoughts on mez in PvP. Is it currently working as intended (i.e., lvl caps apply to players), and if not are there any plans to "fix" the issue in the future?

[Nizzarr]

bump, another glaring pvp bug

[Technique]

Posts from November 2007 claiming that a recent change on Zek caused the previously NPC-only level caps on mez and stun spells to also apply to players.
Abilities that had a lvl restriction for mobs but formally [sic] worked pvp no longer work in pvp. Is this an intended change?It's effecting ALL stuns and mezzes in PvP. Bring back the no level requirement on mez/stuns in PvP NOW.ALL stuns and mezzes landed on players REGARDLESS of their pve levels until SoF was released. This is the way the original EQ devs gave us.http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/bard-ancient-mez-not-working-in-pvp.133004/ (https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/bard-ancient-mez-not-working-in-pvp.133004/)

[nilbog]

Being investigated for changes.

[Nirgon]

^ great evidence that you guys should be VERY careful considering what you read on ZAM / see on live given pvp changes. The spell system went through massive changes after Velious and bugs arose.

Meaning: if you see, "spell X can be dispelled" etc in a log... consult a certified Doctor of Classic EverQuest before submitting it as proof.