Can anything be done about the low population numbers?

[Autumnbow]

It seems like such a shame that there is this perfectly good PvP server, and I feel as though I can't play there because of the low population. I'm playing on blue just so I can find people to group with; there's no way I'm gonna start up a character on red to solo grind to 60.

[diplo]

imo, buy a 46+ character...that's where 95% of the population and pvp are at. Should run you <50k i believe.

[Autumnbow]

Yeah, if 95% of the population is 46+, then I really don't want to play there. Half of the fun playing live was fighting your way through those lower levels, and making friends/enemies that you grew with.

[mostbitter]

thanks for visiting

[heartbrand]

thanks for visiting

[Dullah]

I don't think the question at this point is 'can anything be done', but rather would anything be done if they could.

[Humerox]

There are lower players and alts, but you have to look for them.

If you're really serious about playing on red, we just started a new guild called "La Resistance", which will be concentrating on doing the classic content the "big 2" have forgotten.

There are only 4 or 5 of us atm, but the leadership has been on (and off) R99 since the beginning. I just recently came back myself.

It's going to be difficult to recruit. It will be difficult for our members because there won't be grouping opportunities all the time until we fill the ranks a bit. The good news is that we're all lower levels (12-23) on the mains we've picked to start our progression. We are also heavily pvp-oriented, because the anti-pk philosophy can't work on a server that has no population. We feel this hardcore PvP philosophy fits what's necessary to progress here.

Contact me as Klatuu in-game, or via PM here on the boards if you're interested. And if anyone else is interested...hit me up.

[Pitborn]

I just finished re- levelling back from 1 to almost 50. ( Why , god ... why ) and while i can say i did get a little bit of pvp here and there, the low end pvp is pretty much non existent.

Hard to say how much happens at the high end also. Oh Yellow Text, Where Art Thou?!

[Autumnbow]

There are lower players and alts, but you have to look for them.

If you're really serious about playing on red, we just started a new guild called "La Resistance", which will be concentrating on doing the classic content the "big 2" have forgotten.

There are only 4 or 5 of us atm, but the leadership has been on (and off) R99 since the beginning. I just recently came back myself.

It's going to be difficult to recruit. It will be difficult for our members because there won't be grouping opportunities all the time until we fill the ranks a bit. The good news is that we're all lower levels (12-23) on the mains we've picked to start our progression. We are also heavily pvp-oriented, because the anti-pk philosophy can't work on a server that has no population. We feel this hardcore PvP philosophy fits what's necessary to progress here.

Contact me as Klatuu in-game, or via PM here on the boards if you're interested. And if anyone else is interested...hit me up.

This sounds a little enticing, but I just can't dedicate my time to a server that will never be able to provide a decent population. Can't pvp people that aren't around, and at least on blue there is a healthy population for pve and making friends. I realize this is a catch-22, and I really miss EQ pvp (best gaming experience of my life), but I think it's about time to realize that it is dead, and gone :(

[Rushmore]

where is samwise when you need him

[Pitborn]

It's not dead and gone, there is a LARGE population of people who love EQ PVP.

They just need a server with a realistic approach.

I will give credit where it is due tho, r99 is pretty rock solid all things considered.

[Autumnbow]

What would be a more realistic approach?

[Pitborn]

1.Even though the XP has been boosted , doing it MUCH sooner would have retained a higher number of people. I can tell you that most people i do know that played here who quit, did so because of the XP grind being too harsh to match RL time to play.

2. Not to keep rehashing "Compass-Gate" but even if it only took 2 seconds to turn that off, it's 2 seconds they could have used to turn on Yellow Text. YT would at least show people " Yes, pvP happens here! " and maybe remind all the bloobs who set up shop here, that it is indeed a pvp server.

3. Clean up the staff and insert people who actually care about the server and not E-peen status or how to make a few bucks off RMTs. I like Sirken personally and think he can be good for the box.

done for now....

[Rushmore]

1.Even though the XP has been boosted , doing it MUCH sooner would have retained a higher number of people. I can tell you that most people i do know that played here who quit, did so because of the XP grind being too harsh to match RL time to play.

2. Not to keep rehashing "Compass-Gate" but even if it only took 2 seconds to turn that off, it's 2 seconds they could have used to turn on Yellow Text. YT would at least show people " Yes, pvP happens here! " and maybe remind all the bloobs who set up shop here, that it is indeed a pvp server.

3. Clean up the staff and insert people who actually care about the server and not E-peen status or how to make a few bucks off RMTs. I like Sirken personally and think he can be good for the box.

done for now....

supposedly there was some big project in the works.... wonder how long before we see something

[Cwall]

indefinitely

[Tsak]

OP, I'm leveling in Crushbone atm, and upto 9. PM if interested and will help each other out. Would be cool to have duomate. :D

[Lucky]

imo, buy a 46+ character...that's where 95% of the population and pvp are at. Should run you <large 2 topping pizza i believe.

[mitic]

it's easy, blue nakid server xfers.

lots if smaller guilds burned out there not being able to compete highend content with the FTE rule

[runlvlzero]

I'm going back to my original trolling gonna say the community is fine, the game is not sustainable beyond nostalgia though. Not without some crazy changes, then you might as well code your own client/server and build your own zones/database for items at that point.

At least for me, I find myself spending too much time to catch up and when I finally do the joy of "catching up" is gone and I fall asleep at the keyboard waiting for stuff to happen.

Super fast xp == bad (no joy in the path to level 60)
old/broken mechanics for classics sake = bad (to many exploits)
poor balance and punished classes = bad (why play a ranger when you can level a necro and a war with uber gear in half the time it would take to get a ranger to 50, then most likely outdamage the ranger with epics and triple attack as a war)

Thats just 3 small things. But the list can go on and on with this game.

Rogean did an awesome job on the database and making the titanium client more "classic like". but... The classic experience is never to be had. Might as well wipe the drawing board clean and invest all the time into a much better updated game with the same depth and "feel" but new tech and less bugs.

Just what I feel like. I'm gonna go back to doing other things till that game comes out or I feel "nostalgia" again.

[bamzal]

lemme know what u find. everything else gets boring after 1 day

[Sigleaf]

OP you should check your messages, I sent you one a few days ago.

I just started playing on Red about 2 weeks ago and I am now a lvl 37 shaman. I suggest you play a class that can solo decently well and use that to then eventually gear out a class that you want to do. That is what I am doing because I would never start a rogue on a server with nothing.....


As for population, I have seen groups here and there, best thing to do is to find a buddy or two who play about the same as you and stick with them. Ive consistently lvled with a enchanter and monk around my lvl that I have had a blast with. Pvp is there and I have had a few good PK's but I know the majority of it occurs in the end game but isn't that the point???

I love the EQ adventure as well, and with 75% xp bonus it seems about perfect but don't get me wrong, playing a hybrid starting with nothing is next to impossible. Play your cards right, start with the right class, find a good guild (PS flowers will gladly have you) and work your way to the end game goals. This servers population has only been going up since I started playing with peak times being 60 two weeks ago and just yesterday I saw 82 at around 10 pm my time.

Good luck and feel free to message me in game!

[Kevynne]

OP you should check your messages, I sent you one a few days ago.

I just started playing on Red about 2 weeks ago and I am now a lvl 37 shaman. I suggest you play a class that can solo decently well and use that to then eventually gear out a class that you want to do. That is what I am doing because I would never start a rogue on a server with nothing.....


As for population, I have seen groups here and there, best thing to do is to find a buddy or two who play about the same as you and stick with them. Ive consistently lvled with a enchanter and monk around my lvl that I have had a blast with. Pvp is there and I have had a few good PK's but I know the majority of it occurs in the end game but isn't that the point???

I love the EQ adventure as well, and with 75% xp bonus it seems about perfect but don't get me wrong, playing a hybrid starting with nothing is next to impossible. Play your cards right, start with the right class, find a good guild (PS flowers will gladly have you) and work your way to the end game goals. This servers population has only been going up since I started playing with peak times being 60 two weeks ago and just yesterday I saw 82 at around 10 pm my time.

Good luck and feel free to message me in game!

this bitch pks and coins his guildies >_<

[Sigleaf]

this bitch pks and coins his guildies >_<

Only the annoying enchanters :D

[Kevynne]

Only the annoying enchanters :D
dick <3

[Smedy]

pop is growing but at a veeeery low phase, they really need to take this chance to increase exp and or reduce the leveling time from 1-50 cuz no one gives a shit about that part of the game.

a bump in the magic resist curve is needed to and yellow text, lets do this

[Sigleaf]

Could try 150% scaling experience starting at 150% at lvl one and ending at 75% at lvl 50 but it would still not solve the issue of gear that first time meele characters have issues with, but hey, something better then nothing.

[Smedy]

I saw this, who was booted? Not to many shits given, laughed about the fact that someone told HB we left fear because he came and took charge, which wasn't really the case, most euros left cuz they got jobs and the time was due to leave anyways.

Cast and Fiegi working HARD to keep the pop down amuses me, i love you guys

EDIT:

Also why don't i have you nigs on aim no more, i added you with my new aim account but got snubbed, plz 2 add me dawgs on aim smedy at jonnyeriksson dot com

[Furniture]

the problem is that there isnt enough interest in classic eq in general for 2 classic servers to have a decent population

[Sigleaf]

the problem is that there isnt enough interest in classic eq in general for 2 classic servers to have a decent population

can't expect people on pvp to want to play blue, also can't expect blue to want to play manly pvp.....

[Nirgon]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P6qhJfznwFo/TzGayy2iB0I/AAAAAAAAIBs/kqw1ZCzoG1M/s1600/toilet.jpg

[Dullah]

I'm starting to think Nirgon is bitter he isn't part of the only EQ pvp server thats even close to legit.

Just take the leap dude, or let it go. I've resigned myself from begging for staff to put more time in a server they obviously have no time or willingness to commit to further.

[JayDee]

Dear Smedy, what are your thoughts on this:



only read last line. deemed worthy post

[RoguePhantom]

HeartBrand.

Most Epic Person EVER to have graced this box. He makes Jesus look like a fucking twat.

[heartbrand]

you cropped rushmore into a discussion about maniaco because you have a hardon for rushmore, and you cropped the ya thing about red dawn @ the end, but /shrug. I stand by everything in that. btw, bad players make up the % of most guilds, (consequently it's always the worst players who are the nicest), it's always the top that do everything in guilds while all the mouth breathers afk auto attack, welcome to EQ. best part of that quote is no one knows if they are in the 15% or the 85%.

[Cwall]

i am the 1%

[huggies]

huggies is top 5% bros

shit just got real

[Dantes]

the problem is that there isnt enough interest in classic eq in general for 2 classic servers to have a decent population

Yep. During live there were what? 12-15 servers? And 2 dedicated to pvp. Percentage wise, the population here is about the same.

[kprobe]

The only thing that can be done is lowering barrier of entry (1-50) even more (think 200%) and then let the leveling continue classic 51-60. You can pvp pretty much anyone in that range, join in on the raiding fun/etc.

But... tbh a lot of people are burned out, you'd need to see a big influx of population to swing things around.


Was fun while it lasted, like most I peek in every now and then to see whats happening.