I wish the Hole was in now

[goodle]

As it stands high end zones are way over crowded. The Hole gear doesn't really off set anything, and it would help reduce wait times to get in groups in Sol B and Lguk.

[Excision Rottun]

I wish I was in a hole now.

[girth]

I wish I could win the lottery.

[Shannacore]

I wish I was in a hole now.

lolz

[Bruman]

It should also play appropriate music on loop the whole time too. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8hT3oDDf6c)

[guineapig]

As it stands high end zones are way over crowded. The Hole gear doesn't really off set anything, and it would help reduce wait times to get in groups in Sol B and Lguk.

By the time the Hole is released you will have all of Kunark to mess around in. and 24/7 raids in the Plane of Sky.

I feel your pain but I also disagree with the quality of some of that gear. It's definitely Kunark quality gear in many cases and should not be in the game before Kunark is.

Only planar and raid gear had so many stats on items in classic:

Item Stats Classes How/Where Level
Bow of the Underfoot Dmg 33, Dly 60. Range 150. +4 Str +4 Dex +10 vsCold Ra P Sk Ro Wr A Rock Golem 50
Brell's Girdle +10 AC +10 Str +10 Sta -5 Agi -5 Dex +50 Mana All Classes Master Yael 45
Cracked Paineel Shield +2 AC Wr Ro Mk B Sk P C Sm Ra Multiple Creatures 45
Earthen Blade Dmg 26, Dly 50. Wr Multiple Creatures 45
Earthshaker Dmg 37, Dly 70. +6 Str +6 Sta -5 Dex Ra P Sk Wr Master Yael 55
Elemental Binder +5 AC +5 Int +5 vsFire +5 vsCold Mg Multiple Creatures 45
Green Dragon Scale All Classes Multiple Creatures 55
Idol of the Underking +3 Str +20 HP +20 Mana All Classes Master Yael 50
Imbued Granite Spaulders +20 AC +10 vsMg +10 vsFire +10 vsCold +10 vsPos +10 vsDis Ra Sm C P Sk B Wr A Rock Golem 55
Loam Encrusted Amice +4 AC +8 Agi +3 Int +2 vsMg +2 vsFire +2 vsCold +2 vsPos +2 vsDis +10 Mana N E Mg Wz A Flighty Fiend 45
Loam Encrusted Bracelet +3 AC +3 Int +3 Cha +15 Mana N E Mg Wz Multiple Creatures 45
Loam Encrusted Cap +4 AC +2 Str +5 Int +4 Cha +5 Mana N E Mg Wz Rocksoul 47
Loam Encrusted Choaker +3 AC +4 Str +3 Cha +5 vsCold +10 Mana N E Mg Wz Multiple Creatures 45
Loam Encrusted Cloak +5 AC +2 Str +8 Agi +1 Int +3 Cha +3 vsMg +3 vsFire +3 vsCold +3 vsPos +3 vsDis +5 Mana N E Mg Wz Multiple Creatures 45
Loam Encrusted Lined Shoes +4 AC +8 Agi +8 Dex +8 Cha +10 vsPos +15 Mana N E Mg Wz An Elemental Crusader 45
Loam Encrusted Pantaloons +5 AC +8 Agi +3 Int +10 vsDis +10 HP +5 Mana N E Mg Wz Stonegrinder Minion 45
Loam Encrusted Robe +9 AC +10 Agi +10 Dex +5 Int +10 vsMg +80 Mana N E Mg Wz Master Yael 50
Loam Encrusted Sash +4 AC +8 Str +5 vsMg +5 vsFire +10 Mana N E Mg Wz Multiple Creatures 45
Loam Encrusted Sleeves +4 AC +5 Int +10 vsFire +5 Mana N E Mg Wz Bejeweled Elemental 49
Loam Encrusted Veil +3 AC +1 Int +3 Cha +20 HP +5 Mana N E Mg Wz Multiple Creatures 50
Mudman Enforcer Dmg 8, Dly 20. +3 Str Ra Sm D C P Sk B Mk Ro Wr A Rock Golem 40
Paineel Splinted Cloak +8 AC Ra Sm C P Sk B Wr Multiple Creatures 45
Paineel Steel Breastplate +22 AC Ra Sm C P Sk B Wr Multiple Creatures 50
Paineel Steel Greaves +10 AC Ra Sm C P Sk B Wr Multiple Creatures 45
Paineel Steel Plate Boots +8 AC Ra Sm C Sk B Wr Multiple Creatures 45
Rusted Throneblade Dmg 27, Dly 52. +3 Str +2 Dex Wr Sk P Ra Nortlav the Scalekeeper 55
Serpent's Tooth Dmg 13, Dly 27. +3 Str N E Mg Wz Ra Sk B Ro Wr Multiple Creatures 45
Smoldering Brand Dmg 9, Dly 22. +3 Str All Classes Multiple Creatures 40
Stonemelder's Band +18 AC -35 Agi -35 Dex All Classes Multiple Creatures 15
Tome of Miragul -5 Str -5 Sta -5 Dex +6 Wis +6 Int -25 Cha -10 vsDis +50 Mana Mg E N Multiple Creatures 50
Withered Leather Boots +5 AC +8 Dex +3 Wis +10 vsPos +40 HP +5 Mana Sm D C Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Cloak +5 AC +5 Str +8 Sta +15 Mana Sm D C Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Gloves +5 AC +10 vsCold +35 Mana C D Sm Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Gorget +4 AC +3 Wis +3 vsMg +3 vsFire +3 vsCold +3 vsPos +3 vsDis +5 Mana Sm D C Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Leggings +6 AC +8 Agi +4 Wis +10 vsDis +5 Mana C D Sm Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Mask +3 AC +2 Wis +8 Cha +10 Mana Sm D C Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Shoulderpads +4 AC +5 Str +5 Sta +3 vsMg +3 vsFire +3 vsCold +3 vsPos +3 vsDis +15 Mana Sm D C Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Skullcap +6 AC +3 Str +2 Wis +20 Mana C D Sm Multiple Creatures 45
Withered Leather Sleeves +5 AC +4 Wis +10 vsFire +10 Mana Sm D C Bejeweled Elemental 49
Withered Leather Wristbands +3 AC +3 Str +2 Sta +5 Wis +5 Mana Sm D C Irslak the Wretched 45


I will say however that it would have made more sense for the zone itself to be in the game as a third dungeon for the 40-50 crowd (with modified loot tables). But that's the way it happened on live and that's the way it's going to happen here.

[Icecometus]

The cool thing about releasing it early is that it might actually be a popular zone if it was to be open now. I remember it being next to impossible to find a group XPing in the Hole on live during Kunark. Hate was already released early due to end game pressure I think it would be fine to allow the nice loot from the hole to enter early, most of it is caster gear anyways and casters are screwed on gear for most of the classic period.

[Excision Rottun]

It would be cool if Warriors were given the Rampage AA too.

Then they could just Shakerpage whole dungeons!

[Lyssia]

With any luck they will also do the same GM event for the opening of the Hole as they did on live. I participated in the GM event back in the day and was awarded the Shroud of Earth Shadows on my necromancer Borm on Prexus server. Uber doesnt even describe it's awesomeness back in that period.