NPC spells on PC in pvp(PETS)

[Nizzarr]

Sonic bats stuns lands too much, standing at 175 mr ill get stunned way too often.

Earth pets land 5/10 roots at 175 mr. thats light-blue pet landing 5 roots on 10 on a level 60 monk with 175 mr.

This is atrocious. I'm certain theres more irregularities but at this point, this is what I have.

[Vayder]

Earth Pet roots land far more consistently than PC roots. I haven't parsed at 175mr but I have parsed over 300 casts now at 120mr and it works out to ~6% when at same level as target.

Earth Pets casting on higher level players should have an even lower success rate unless there is a modifier on their root that I'm not aware of.

[Nirgon]

I personally hope Rogean gets around to this stuff after he is done with other things.

[KefkaPalazzo]

posting parses would be nice. btw before I quit there was a big where if you had sow on earth pets did not attempt to cast root.

[uruend]

Pet roots are ridiculous also look at blinds resist rate it's to high for the shit spell it actually is

[Critical]

I love how bugs are now, "make the game how I think it should be"

[Nizzarr]

I love how bugs are now, "make the game how I think it should be"

You think being rooted 50% of the time by a light blue pet at 175 mr is ok?

I was naked on live and that shit never landed.

[Critical]

I do recall Earth pets being less than extraordinary in PVP, that's why people used Air/Epic pet towards Kunark/Velious.

5/10 with an Earth pet is not unheard of, but the Sonic Bat and charming other NPC pets is a very viable strategy. Those NPCS have a different resist check, and Sonicbatstun is nearly unresistable even while not charmed in PVE. Thus the reason for charming mobs and having them parked at zone in.

[FansyTheBard]

You think being rooted 50% of the time by a light blue pet at 175 mr is ok?

I was naked on live and that shit never landed.

it is ok as long tstaff proc stays unresistable at 8secs. what weapon are u using again nizzar?

[Nizzarr]

then make everything lands 100%, we're gonna have some fun.

This is a pet root thread, if you want to troll, make a troll bug thread.

Enjoy the t-staff.

[Nizzarr]

There's no negative modifier on sonic scream, should be easily resistable.

Sonic scream.
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw.html?id=915&source=Live

This is for the elemental earth strike, which is what lvl 50+ earth pet uses here. You can see a few changes over the years as far as pvp resists goes. Not sure what resists calc they use here.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw.html?id=1022&source=Live

[Critical]

The resist system is an on going fight that will not be changed according to the dev team.

Nizzar, you have your Tstaff and you are max level 60.

You can complain about resists but Null has made it clear that the way it is set is the way he wants it for this project...

No one can confirm the way things resisted in classic because of all the different mechanics at work, buffs, items, levels, and of course patches.

[Nizzarr]

Because im sure that roots being @ 95% at 130 mr and that this pet root being @ 45% at 175 mr is whats intended here.

Its not a classic system and I'll gladly point the flaws in the NPC --> PC resists system in a non-classic system. You can stop arguing though, they'll make what they want out of it.

[Nirgon]

Nizzar you're right on this, no worries

[Critical]

No one can confirm the way things resisted in classic because of all the different mechanics at work, buffs, items, levels, and of course patches.

[Critical]

I love how people who have never developed anything beyond a foot long sandwich at Subway, want to tell EQEMU developers how to code something...

You wanna code? Go decipher the code in having good health, and stop worrying about things you have no knowledge or ability in.

Thank you.

[Nizzarr]

I love how people who have never developed anything beyond a foot long sandwich at Subway, want to tell EQEMU developers how to code something...

You wanna code? Go decipher the code in having good health, and stop worrying about things you have no knowledge or ability in.

Thank you.

Shut the fuck up.

[Critical]

Shut the fuck up.

No u

[Sickpuppy]

Nizzar that's funny my pet can never seem to root you and when he does it lasts for 2 seconds I'f that ... Don't just claIm it's broken show
More proof .. Earth pet is broken it doesn't root enuff and it gets resisted to much ..

[Sickpuppy]

And im 60 so that makes my pet dark blue to you and can't root you or Enyone else with 100+ mr I'm open to doing some testing if you like nizzar and we can actually see how
Meny times and how LonG root lasts

[heartbrand]

I almost never am rooted with my full MR gear by PC spells but by Mage pet's I get locked down constantly.

[Nirgon]

Earth pet root should be down there with whirl.

In the barely ever works area (remember when we posted how spells have resist ceilings, after a certain point they shouldn't land AT ALL).

With immobilizing spells landing so easily, it really becomes a numbers (of players) game.

Bring back basketball.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

Earth pet root should be down there with whirl.

In the barely ever works area (remember when we posted how spells have resist ceilings, after a certain point they shouldn't land AT ALL).

With immobilizing spells landing so easily, it really becomes a numbers (of players) game.

Bring back basketball.


holy shit someone else notice that this shitty custom resist system caters to zergs too?

1 out of 50 roots landing is game-breaking

[Sickpuppy]

Heartbrand we. Can do the test also don't. Claim shit is broken when you have no proof I will be more then happy to log on my mage and fraps a session of my pet rooting you and we will see how broken it is Becouse infact as a 60 Mage I kno my earth pet root does not root Enyone and if he does it lasts for 2 seconds I don't even use it in pvp it sucks so bad

[Nirgon]

Spells have a point where if you meet a certain resist it should never land. That's what you need to fix. If that can't be nailed down in 2 weeks of good effort (esp with all the lucy values being available), I don't know what alien language this shit is written in.

[Cwall]

banging your heads against the wall bros

[bigSCHMEDY3.25]

Pretty sure this is working as NULL INTENDED!!!! Get it through your heads guys, this is NOT ALL CLASSIC!!! server changes are for the GOOD of the server, not your OWN POCKETS!!!!

[Dullah]

Bump. Earth pet rooting at 150+ MR almost every time has got to go.

[SamwiseRed]

earth pet root landing more than my root. oh ya im mad.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

i noticed in the event, earth pet was a machine proccing root on ppl it wasnt even currently focused on, u just go near it and if ur on its list, it will root u

[SamwiseRed]

i was rooted during event too but took no dmg so Bam is on to something. i had thought minie was just sicking pet and backing off on everyone but that sounds like it would be really annoying.

[azo313]

All PvP resists broken. A player with 150 mr can be rooted after several attempts. On live, you could not be rooted even with just 90 mr.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

All PvP resists broken. A player with 150 mr can be rooted after several attempts. On live, you could not be rooted even with just 90 mr.

^^

Unfortunatly, one GM (null) was handed over the keys and decided to completely dismantle classic PvP as we knew it, mechanic by mechanic, on some strange warpath to obliterate the server, and overall derail a classic project. (Resists, LoS, Water protection to name a few)

[SamwiseRed]

LoS dont get me started here. not classic at all