Lava breath

[Nizzarr]

is there something wrong with this AOE on red?

We've been in 4 fights with faydedar and 1 with nagafen, I've had 350+ fire resist for all the fights and I didnt get a single partial, nor did anyone else.

Is this tagged as unresistable or does it have a big resist minus?

In any case, this should be easily resistable by a 60 with more than 200 fr and right now it just isnt resisted at all. not even partials.

[Nirgon]

All the dragon aoe's should have a very very high resist check to pass.

That said, at 350 fire you should definitely be getting some partials and resists.

Going forward on that however, (EDIT!) people with under 160 poison should still be taking a Trak breaths HARDCORE.

[Vayder]

That said, people with under 160 poison should still have taking a Trak breath or two, not sure if that's the case here.

Still taking trak breath with over 210pr on occasion. Working as intended.

[Nirgon]

K word.

[Nizzarr]

yea I can resist the trak aoe with 350 pr, nagafens aoe? forget it

[Nizzarr]

Also never resisted/partialed any of these in about 20 nagafen fight with ranges of FR 100-300 in classic.

As far as trak aoe goes -- it has a -150 resist adjust check. you need at least 300 to even think about resisting it.

[Lazortag]

I resisted ragefire's/faydedar's/naggy's aoes constantly in all the fights I've participated in on blue, so something was probably changed recently. Either that or you're horrendously unlucky.
edit: will it never resist at all, or did you just never get a partial resist? I assume the former but it's hard to tell from your post.

[Nirgon]

you SHOULD need at least 300 to even think about resisting it.

I have a feeling this Trak aoe here is making an envenomed bolt type check for resist and not a true dragon breath check.

Would need a dev to confirm by posting resist value for his poisoned breath.

Yeah it shows a -150 check in every case I have data. People are resisting it way too easy here.

Not to mention players will be taking a -5 level check on this even if they are level 60... this spell should be VERY hard to a non 60 to resist. <3 you Trakanon.

Here it seems like most poison breaths just bounce off people where in reality it should be much rarer and raid wide healing and curing should be rather hectic during the fight.

Still taking trak breath with over 210pr on occasion. Working as intended.


Right but what level are you? This should be taking a check as a lvl 65 target on a -150 calc... you should be getting regularly pounded by this if you're under 55.

I'm told players with as little as 120 are resisting this at lvl 60 pretty well. That is very wrong.

[Nizzarr]

base 25
poison resist 40
shadoo 45
dmf 70
potion 25

you're already starting at 205 pr with no gear and no bard song, its not that hard to get 300+

[Dullah]

Trak breath hit me once or twice with over 400pr here. In general I'd say you are pretty safe at 60 with around 400.

Ive never seen a resist on naggys/fayd fire ae on red. With 300+ fr.

[Lazortag]

I have a feeling this Trak aoe here is making an envenomed bolt type check for resist and not a true dragon breath check.

Would need a dev to confirm by posting resist value for his poisoned breath.

Yeah it shows a -150 check in every case I have data. People are resisting it way too easy here.

Not to mention players will be taking a -5 level check on this even if they are level 60... this spell should be VERY hard to a non 60 to resist. <3 you Trakanon.

Here it seems like most poison breaths just bounce off people where in reality it should be much rarer and raid wide healing and curing should be rather hectic during the fight.




Right but what level are you? This should be taking a check as a lvl 65 target on a -150 calc... you should be getting regularly pounded by this if you're under 55.

I'm told players with as little as 120 are resisting this at lvl 60 pretty well. That is very wrong.

Okay what are you even talking about? This is exactly why you should actually play on the server before reporting bugs. Trak's AE is still very difficult to resist even at high values of PR. I had 350 PR on the last Trak attempt I participated in, and while I mostly resisted the ae, it still did land at least once. You say ridiculous things like, "here it seems like poison breaths just bounce off people" when that's not at all true.

As for Naggy's ae, maybe because it has a dispel component, and dispel is unresistable in pvp, it's flagged as unresistable? Is this a problem on blue also (I haven't raided naggy, ragefire, or faydedar in a long time so I don't know)?

[Nizzarr]

dare to test this out anyone? :( I believe the aoe from vox does the samething.

We're 60 with like 250 cold resist and this still lands for full.

Might be good to fix this before velious because a lot of dragons AOE have dispel components, if they act unresistable then some encounter might be too hard. If thats even the issue.

[Nirgon]

K well I'd have a dev test them both and report findings and compare it to the data to make sure they are accurate.

Lazor, maybe I did raid Trak here and it bounced off with 127PR on a lvl 60.

Like everything else I talk about, I know what I'm talking about.

[Nizzarr]

I have 380 pr on most trak raid and it still lands on me, not sure if serious.

This thread is about naggy/faydedar/vox aoe.

start a new thread for trakanon.

[Nirgon]

Yeah Trak should be murdering you with poison at that value.

Hopefully the poison effect lasts like forever like it did on live too and not just 1 minute.

I don't recall having Shadoo AND Resist poison both being able to effect me at the same time. This seems wrong, but no clear memory on that.

[Nirgon]

Made my own thread sorry.

[Lazortag]

dare to test this out anyone? :( I believe the aoe from vox does the samething.

We're 60 with like 250 cold resist and this still lands for full.

Might be good to fix this before velious because a lot of dragons AOE have dispel components, if they act unresistable then some encounter might be too hard. If thats even the issue.

Have you been able to resist the Fiery Death ae from the king in Chardok (the queen's is meant to be unresistable)? It also has a dispel component and I was able to reliably resist it on blue as recently as today with about 200 FR. If it's unresistable on red, then we've isolated the problem.

[Treats]

Queen in Chardok should be using Flame Song of Ro I think.

It has a Fire check:

FlameSongOfRo
DoT for 850 Hit Points (HP) in 1 ticks


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Classes: None

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Area Effect Range: 30 feet
Pushes Target Back: 1 feet

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Skill: Evocation
Allowable Targets: Point Blank AoE

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Resistance Check: Fire

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Spell Duration: 1 ticks (6 seconds)
Duration Formula: 7
Recast Delay: 12.0 seconds

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Spell cast on you: You are immolated by flame.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso is immolated by flame.

[Nizzarr]

bump, 3 bard groups tonight on faydedar, not a single partial or resist on 20 people. mostly 60s with ~250-300 fr

[Kevynne]

dragon aes I thought were unresistable?

[Lazortag]

dragon aes I thought were unresistable?

They aren't meant to be. In old everlore comments people regularly reported resisting certain ae's, as well as what resist values they needed, in case you want proof.

[Kevynne]

Oh well Ty for clearing that up!

[Nizzarr]

bump, serious issue needs to be looked at please!

Seems to be only on Red.

Frost breath and lava breath seems to always land for full no matter your resists/level.

[Nizzarr]

I'm worried about druushk's aoe in veeshans peak, as it also has a dispel component.

Would suck if its unresistable

[Kevynne]

I'm worried about druushk's aoe in veeshans peak, as it also has a dispel component.

Would suck if its unresistable

only nihilum would think of VP instantly :p

[Woodcon Valor]

lets get this fixed :)

[BigSlip]

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[Nizzarr]

serious bump for serious issue

[Nirgon]

Druushk is going to gib raids if you cant resist his lightning breath.

[Dullah]

Bump.

Dispel ae's still not taking resists into consideration on red.

[BigSlip]

gl w nexona

[Heebo]

gl w nexona

Nexona doesn't have a dispell component.

[Holey]

bump.

[Awwalike]

that sig is pretty tite I identify myself as a Server Bully

[heartbrand]

bump this is retarded plz fix

[Nizzarr]

bump -- tried druushk today and like we thought his aoe lands full on people with 400+ mr, not a single partial or resists on 18 people.

This is a bug with the cancel magic part of dragon AoE on the red server.

[Nizzarr]

bump, bla bla bla fire/cold resist over 350, bla bla bla no resists on nagafen and vox bla bla bla cancel magic part screwing up aoes on red bla bla bla need fix.

[Nirgon]

After YT

[Nizzarr]

bump -- This was broken with the last DB change again

Spells with dispels components lands for full no matter the resists

Still killed druushk with 30 poeple though! but sure is hard.