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Vayder
09-05-2012, 09:42 AM
95 resists - 6 landed

That's the largest sample size I'm aware of anyone providing and has root at ~6% chance at 128mr...

Log search for root results in:

[Wed Sep 05 08:24:37 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:39 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:39 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:42 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:44 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:44 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:47 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:49 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:49 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:52 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:54 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:54 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:57 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:59 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:59 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:02 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:04 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:04 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:08 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:15 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:17 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:17 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:20 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:23 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:23 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:26 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:28 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:28 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:31 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:33 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:33 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:36 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:38 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:38 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:40 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:46 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:48 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:48 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:51 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:53 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:53 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:56 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:58 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:25:58 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:01 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:03 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:03 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:06 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:08 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:08 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:11 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:13 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:13 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:17 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:19 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:19 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:22 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:24 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:24 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:27 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:29 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:29 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:32 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:34 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:34 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:37 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:39 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:39 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:42 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:44 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:44 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:47 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:49 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:49 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:52 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:54 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:54 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:57 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:59 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:26:59 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:02 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:04 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:04 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:07 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:09 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:09 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:12 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:14 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:14 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:17 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:19 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:19 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:25 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:27 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:27 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:30 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:32 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:32 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:35 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:39 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:44 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:46 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:46 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:49 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:51 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:51 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:55 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:57 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:57 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:28:00 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:28:02 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:28:02 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:08 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:10 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:10 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:13 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:15 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:15 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:18 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:20 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:20 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:23 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:25 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:25 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:27 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:29 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:29 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:32 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:34 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:34 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:37 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:39 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:39 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:42 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:44 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:44 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:47 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:52 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:54 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:54 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:56 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:58 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:58 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:01 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:03 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:03 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:06 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:08 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:08 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:12 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:14 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:14 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:16 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:18 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:18 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:21 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:23 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:23 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:26 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:28 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:28 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:31 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:33 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:33 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:36 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:38 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:38 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:40 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:42 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:42 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:45 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:47 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:47 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:50 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:52 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:52 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:55 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:57 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:31:57 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:00 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:02 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:02 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:05 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:07 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:07 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:10 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:12 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:12 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:15 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:17 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:17 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:20 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:22 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:22 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:25 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:27 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:27 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:30 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:32 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:32 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:35 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:37 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:37 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:40 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:42 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:42 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:45 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:47 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:47 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:50 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:52 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:52 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:55 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:57 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:32:57 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:00 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:02 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:02 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:04 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:06 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:06 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:09 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:11 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:11 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:14 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:16 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:16 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:19 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:21 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:21 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:24 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:26 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:26 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:29 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:31 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:31 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:33 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:35 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:35 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:38 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:40 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:40 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:43 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:45 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:45 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:48 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:50 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:50 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:53 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:55 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:55 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:33:58 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:00 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:00 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:03 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:05 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:05 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:08 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:10 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:10 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:13 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:15 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:15 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:18 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:20 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:20 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:23 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:25 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:25 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:28 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:30 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:30 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:33 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:35 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:35 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:38 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:40 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:40 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:44 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:46 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:46 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:48 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:50 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:50 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:53 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:55 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:56 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:58 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:35:03 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:35:05 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:35:05 2012] You resist the Root spell!

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 09:59 AM
Good test, hopefully this will put the "im rooted too much!" stuff to rest.

If 1k double backstabbing rogues and chain procing unresistable T-staff Monks want to be more immune to CC then 94% immunity with easy to get MR well..... I dunno what to say.

"but I ran into a full group and they all spammed CC on me till it stuck, I only had time to kill 4 of their casters before I was CCed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

well... dont run solo into full groups and expect to kill them all, everytime.

EQ is fun (in all aspects of the game) because of the element of suprise and risk and chance. Nothing in EQ should be 100%. That what wow is for.

Nizzarr
09-05-2012, 10:04 AM
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Shiverback hide gloves 7
Pearlescent mask 10
Tranix crown 20
Fingerbone hoop 5
earring of essence 10
Sarnak emblazoned tabard 10

Total mr: 129(monk starts with 25 mr?)

So I have to wear all that to get 94% resist rate? dayum I pity the monks not able to get 80% of these items. I feel like its quite ridiculous that I have to wear 10 pieces of decently hard to get gear to achieve those results. This means my strenght/other resists are crap just to be able to resist the CC spam.

If you're available, lets try this with you casting root and snare on a player 7-8 levels higher than you!


I'd like to reiterate how dumb this is, lets say a necro lands a 1min root on me. He has a pet -- I'm a sitting duck for 1 minute unless I waste a pillage wand on myself or miraculously I'm able to dodge a pet's attack for 3 second and get a pumice off.

Theres no wonder theres barely any melees on this server. Its not fun.

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 10:08 AM
On the other hand, IF you dont get rooted...

You can kill anyone and everyone in the entire game.

So think of it as a 94% chance to defeated any and every opponent on the server. (well at least 100 percent of every caster, I dunno how monks match up against other meeles, specificaly the other non casting ones like warriors/rogues).

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 10:08 AM
Nizzar hits like a truck, praise root.

quido
09-05-2012, 10:11 AM
Dumps like a truck, truck, truck. Thighs like what, what what.

All night long.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 10:12 AM
Also why would a monk try to 1v1 a necro? You know you'll more than likely be buffed and accompanied by your minions. Solo melee doesn't make sense to me and balance cannot be obtained if you try to make every matchup fair.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 10:27 AM
I feel for melees being cc'd. I seriously see your side but at the same time you have to factor in that you have unlimited dps. I've been chain interrupted by war and monk. Getting a root to land while getting pummeled by cloak of flames raid buffed monk sucks ass.

Vile
09-05-2012, 10:30 AM
Seems pretty legit to me...

Smedy
09-05-2012, 10:38 AM
looks good to me, have the people complaining about root played in the past 3 months?

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 10:42 AM
However level range be factored in to be as important, if not more, than mr.

Tycko
09-05-2012, 11:26 AM
If i stack MR gear on my melee, my hp sucks, my str sucks. If i get rooted 1 out of 10 casts, then it just means the caster has to kite me around longer until he can finally get it to stick. Most of the time i will get tash'd or malo'd at the start also, which means your MR will not be above 100 if your solo. So maybe roots land maybe 1 out of 5. With the way the system works, as long as your not rooted, its easy to avoid melee. Which means casters can kite melee around all day long until they get a root to land. I beleive if I have best in slot resists for my class, I should be able to make myself immune to root. Maybe that is the single point that needs to be debated. Should a person be able to equip enough MR to make himself immune to root/snare. My opinion is yes.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 11:45 AM
If i stack MR gear on my melee, my hp sucks, my str sucks. If i get rooted 1 out of 10 casts, then it just means the caster has to kite me around longer until he can finally get it to stick. Most of the time i will get tash'd or malo'd at the start also, which means your MR will not be above 100 if your solo. So maybe roots land maybe 1 out of 5. With the way the system works, as long as your not rooted, its easy to avoid melee. Which means casters can kite melee around all day long until they get a root to land. I beleive if I have best in slot resists for my class, I should be able to make myself immune to root. Maybe that is the single point that needs to be debated. Should a person be able to equip enough MR to make himself immune to root/snare. My opinion is yes.

Okay so u r fighting a chanter. Pop crim pot, you'll still resist most his nukes and he can't interrupt u so pumice root. You guys are talking like mr is the deciding factor in pvp. Put jboots on a melee vs a caster without and it's Gg

PhantomRogue
09-05-2012, 11:50 AM
Okay so u r fighting a chanter. Pop crim pot, you'll still resist most his nukes and he can't interrupt u so pumice root. You guys are talking like mr is the deciding factor in pvp. Put jboots on a melee vs a caster without and it's Gg

If people whine about root, i just mark their name down, so when i get higher, they are an easy kill, because they obviously don't know how to PvP.

Vayder
09-05-2012, 11:51 AM
then it just means the caster has to kite me around longer until he can finally get it to stick.... With the way the system works, as long as your not rooted, its easy to avoid melee. Which means casters can kite melee around all day long until they get a root to land.

So what you're saying is without root melees can't damage anyone.

So if you get what you want and everyone is immune to root melees won't be able to damage anyone. Sounds worse for you...

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 11:54 AM
Who is tyko in game and what class is he?

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 11:56 AM
If i stack MR gear on my melee, my hp sucks, my str sucks. If i get rooted 1 out of 10 casts, then it just means the caster has to kite me around longer until he can finally get it to stick. Most of the time i will get tash'd or malo'd at the start also, which means your MR will not be above 100 if your solo. So maybe roots land maybe 1 out of 5. With the way the system works, as long as your not rooted, its easy to avoid melee. Which means casters can kite melee around all day long until they get a root to land. I beleive if I have best in slot resists for my class, I should be able to make myself immune to root. Maybe that is the single point that needs to be debated. Should a person be able to equip enough MR to make himself immune to root/snare. My opinion is yes.

Do you think you are currently well balanced 1v1 with the casters on the server?

How do you feel that balance would be if you could make yourself immune to CC?

"best in slot" caster vs "best in slot" meele is no contest. Its a joke. Even with the current 6 percent chance of root/snare landing ITS A JOKE. The casters are pure dead meat and free kills.

Is that what we want?

"But CrystalBlue, what about group vs group!?!? this is a group game!"

Yeah, group vs. group it becomes a even greater joke because the meeles get targeted last and get to run around doing 50 DPS and interupting most anything they decide to attack (while doing that 50 DPS... way more if you are a rogue lol).

Is that what we want?

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 11:59 AM
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Shiverback hide gloves 7
Pearlescent mask 10
Tranix crown 20
Fingerbone hoop 5
earring of essence 10
Sarnak emblazoned tabard 10

Total mr: 129(monk starts with 25 mr?)

So I have to wear all that to get 94% resist rate? dayum I pity the monks not able to get 80% of these items. I feel like its quite ridiculous that I have to wear 10 pieces of decently hard to get gear to achieve those results. This means my strenght/other resists are crap just to be able to resist the CC spam.

If you're available, lets try this with you casting root and snare on a player 7-8 levels higher than you!


I'd like to reiterate how dumb this is, lets say a necro lands a 1min root on me. He has a pet -- I'm a sitting duck for 1 minute unless I waste a pillage wand on myself or miraculously I'm able to dodge a pet's attack for 3 second and get a pumice off.

Theres no wonder theres barely any melees on this server. Its not fun.


What I get from this proves my point. He wears the best possible magic resist gear most people will ever get here if they play the game like a job. He can still get rooted by people spamming him with root.

The druid root seems to land even more than the regular one too.

Stop making root/snare spells an issue past 70 magic resist.

Effective whenever an active dev gets working on it, which as long as an MIA Null is pointed to for an answer, is likely never.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 12:05 PM
SPaimming 9 roots til one lands. Meanwhile getting the shit beat out me, getting dispelled. Yay root lands time to star fire. Oh wait he pumiced the root while I was casting. /bendsover

PhantomRogue
09-05-2012, 12:06 PM
What I get from this proves my point. He wears the best possible magic resist gear most people will ever get here if they play the game like a job. He can still get rooted by people spamming him with root.

The druid root seems to land even more than the regular one too.

Stop making root/snare spells an issue past 70 magic resist.

Effective whenever an active dev gets working on it, which as long as an MIA Null is pointed to for an answer, is likely never.

You should NEVER... EVER become immune to anything. 6% is hardly a big number.

Its PvP you sacrifice DPS for survivability. Its EQ, you ALWAYS have a chance to get ganked/rooted/snared/etc.

Stop bitching about wanting to be un-rootable. Making 70 MR to 'immune point' means that you can STILL stack massive damage and become unkillable.

You people just want to poopsuck PvP (Yes, poop SUCK) with only sacrificing very little offense.

Leave the resists. You should always have a chance of being rooted. 6% with 100+ MR is exactly what it should be.

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 12:07 PM
SPaimming 9 roots til one lands. Meanwhile getting the shit beat out me, getting dispelled. Yay root lands time to star fire. Oh wait he pumiced the root while I was casting. /bendsover

Stop dreaming, there are monks on this server with effretti standards and t-staves, you wont be able to channel through the first root, much less the 9th.

And if a rogue is on you, you will be dead before you finish trying your 2nd root.

And if a warrior is on you, they will keep you interupted too. Or maybe they will have mercy on you and stand there and let you go oom casting starfires on them to take them down to 50 percent hps..then they will kill you.


(but they are all underpowered, they need CC immunity NOW!)

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 12:08 PM
I love how gmr or other mr buffs aren't being factored. Learn to pumice roots. Get jboots. Non pet casters aren't going to interrupt your pumice.

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 12:26 PM
Lots of hope coming up for Searyx's monk. Can't wait for his autobiography of his life and times soloing to 46 as a monk and getting shit on.

You realize people enjoyed PvP and were fine with it in a classic system. You realize item loot can work on a server? You realize that its retarded to wear literally max MR gear in every slot and have a chance to get rooted for full duration? You realize a melee assist train on a rooted person means they are highly unlikely to dispel it?

I'm just going to lump, oh maybe this entire server except for someone I hated for a long time in the "we like single pulling with invis / broken necro heal mechanics / charmed Sirran in sky" crowd. What a joke. All shit like this does is make it an ez-to-play-WoW game that disgraces classic Everquest.

Haul
09-05-2012, 12:30 PM
no offense but root should land more than that, yall are fucking crazy didn't you guys play pvp on live, on RZ root was never that difficult to land- I'd say it was like 8-9% with that shitty of mr

Haul
09-05-2012, 12:32 PM
Lots of hope coming up for Searyx's monk. Can't wait for his autobiography of his life and times soloing to 46 as a monk and getting shit on.

You realize people enjoyed PvP and were fine with it in a classic system. You realize item loot can work on a server? You realize that its retarded to wear literally max MR gear in every slot and have a chance to get rooted for full duration? You realize a melee assist train on a rooted person means they are highly unlikely to dispel it?

I'm just going to lump, oh maybe this entire server except for someone I hated for a long time in the "we like single pulling with invis / broken necro heal mechanics / charmed Sirran in sky" crowd. What a joke. All shit like this does is make it an ez-to-play-WoW game that disgraces classic Everquest.

agreed this shit needs corrected

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 12:34 PM
I thought this was a classic Everquest server? When did it become the arm chair retard pvp design lounge?

You have a guy who plays a wizard voting on classic (why this is update for debate is directly related to the devs listening to idiots) mechanics.

Assertion 1: There should be item loot.
Response: You want that because you play a wizard!

Assertion 2: Root should not land.
Response: Durr it landed on live! We had epic slap fights in Paludal Caverns where we spilled each others drool cups.

You guys will in fact see balance swings from casters to melees. I won't use it as a way of trying to prove I was right or wrong about anything. I'm just saying I told you so.

There is one way to do this right, classic style.

Supreme
09-05-2012, 12:37 PM
How about this....

Fucking deal with it.

The end.

Slug
09-05-2012, 12:37 PM
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Shiverback hide gloves 7
Pearlescent mask 10
Tranix crown 20
Fingerbone hoop 5
earring of essence 10
Sarnak emblazoned tabard 10

Total mr: 129(monk starts with 25 mr?)

So I have to wear all that to get 94% resist rate? dayum I pity the monks not able to get 80% of these items. I feel like its quite ridiculous that I have to wear 10 pieces of decently hard to get gear to achieve those results. This means my strenght/other resists are crap just to be able to resist the CC spam.

If you're available, lets try this with you casting root and snare on a player 7-8 levels higher than you!


I'd like to reiterate how dumb this is, lets say a necro lands a 1min root on me. He has a pet -- I'm a sitting duck for 1 minute unless I waste a pillage wand on myself or miraculously I'm able to dodge a pet's attack for 3 second and get a pumice off.

Theres no wonder theres barely any melees on this server. Its not fun.

Know how I know you're a blubie, and way out of your element?

Seriously, this is not a PvP server, this is a server for people who don't, and have not ever understood PvP.

Imagine, a PvP server where you need to wear resist gear, instead of your PvE gear - outlandish.

:rolleyes:

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Except he has access to all this gear. I can't wait for him to get a tstaff and shit all over you, root or no root.

Wait till he comes through with his tstaff, fungi, and full resist gear, all droppable that is of no risk to him to use and just shits on all of your guilds of the month.

We'll be back at 9 population in no time folks!

As for Supreme, how many rowing oars have been broken prying you out of bed? Be quiet. People in the know are trying to save your box.

Itap
09-05-2012, 12:45 PM
Oh look, another thread complaining about how screwed up resists are/item loot/<insert random bitching here>. OP showed that resists are working as intended. If you cant pvp because 1 out of 12 roots land, maybe you shouldnt be playing on a pvp server.

tldr; You're doing it wrong

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 12:56 PM
You posted a tl;dr for a 2 sentence post.

Go back to WoW.

http://www.strangepersons.com/images/content/131469.jpg

mindsculptor
09-05-2012, 01:31 PM
128 MR is not alot and root landing 6% at 128 mr seems really low to me. Also shouldn't you have to wear resist gear to resist spells?

Why is there all this complaining about how hard it is to achieve 128 mr, its not hard at all? I don't know many warriors, monks and rogues who run around Norath solo, so I suspect most of the time they can easily get an MR buff. The only concession I will make on this point is that it would be nice to see resist checks scale with level since it is unfair to expect a low level characters to obtain very much MR gear, but this may create other issues and make twinks even stronger.

Not to mention casters are super fragile when root does not land. When a monk resists one root and starts beating on the caster with t-staff its prolly game over for the caster already, is a 6% chance of avoiding that so unbalanced?

gloinz
09-05-2012, 01:41 PM
Not to mention casters are super fragile when root does not land. When a monk resists one root and starts beating on the caster with t-staff its prolly game over for the caster already, is a 6% chance of avoiding that so unbalanced?

i know its so hard to autorun the other direction

Vayder
09-05-2012, 01:45 PM
i know its so hard to autorun the other direction

Again, if this is the case why would anyone play a melee if everyone is immune to CC? Even in mass pvp they would do nothing...

gloinz
09-05-2012, 01:47 PM
Again, if this is the case why would anyone play a melee if everyone is immune to CC? Even in mass pvp they would do nothing...

bc the melee catchs up cuts off caster and stabs them in the mouth or goes and attacks someone else nearby

i know jousting is a hard skillset that no one on this box possesses but its a++ fun

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 01:47 PM
The only concession I will make on this point is that it would be nice to see resist checks scale with level since it is unfair to expect a low level characters to obtain very much MR gear


It already does, Null has mentioned it a few times here and there in posts.

mindsculptor
09-05-2012, 01:47 PM
i know its so hard to autorun the other direction

auto running always wins fights I hear

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 01:48 PM
i know jousting is a hard skillset that no one on this box possesses but its a++ fun


Just you , which is why you had to reroll wizard

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 01:56 PM
Wizard makes a way better solo pvper (for getting kill shots) and xper than a paladin. Just saying.

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 01:58 PM
128 MR is not alot and root landing 6% at 128 mr seems really low to me. Also shouldn't you have to wear resist gear to resist spells?

Why is there all this complaining about how hard it is to achieve 128 mr, its not hard at all? I don't know many warriors, monks and rogues who run around Norath solo, so I suspect most of the time they can easily get an MR buff. The only concession I will make on this point is that it would be nice to see resist checks scale with level since it is unfair to expect a low level characters to obtain very much MR gear, but this may create other issues and make twinks even stronger.

Not to mention casters are super fragile when root does not land. When a monk resists one root and starts beating on the caster with t-staff its prolly game over for the caster already, is a 6% chance of avoiding that so unbalanced?

No one said the tstaff is fair or balanced. This isn't about balance, it's about classic implementation.

compulsion
09-05-2012, 02:26 PM
While a monk may need the best gear available in order to get decent resists, that ~120 threshold is not very difficult to get with other melee classes. It may suck til 40s, but anyone who actually spends a little time working on gear can bounce most CC.

Split paw mask - 5
BI crown - 5
JC stuff - 23
rbf - 10
sarnak tabard - 10
bs mantle - 10

Roll with a priest class and you are at ~128 MR buffed with junk gear that anyone should have by 40. After that, a jacinth ring or 2 and an EoE is not a huge investment of time.

While I hated these resists before the Kunark release, now that so much more diverse gear is available, they really aren't that bad. On live you could resist everything even with crap gear. Basic JC gear and 1 buff meant anyone could run off to a zone and plug the instant PvP happened. This resist system makes the game more more offensively oriented than classic was, but that is just as much an opportunity as it is a shortcoming. How inspired would you be to PvP if classic resists were in and most of Nihilum were 95% spell immune? How many screens would Gloinzz get to post if root never stuck and his draughts hit for 75-120 a shot?

notCwall
09-05-2012, 02:30 PM
lol @ people wanting group pvp to boil down to 4 druids spamming root on one person and then the melee train instantly killing them once it lands

Dullah
09-05-2012, 02:40 PM
Its more than just about how often supposedly your own root lands on yourself. Test it on other people. Especially test it after zoning over. I'd say the chance to land that first root is about 50% higher than any after it. I've been first rooted 20+ times if I've been rooted once.

If I have to sacrifice 300 hp and 50str for 140MR just to still be rooted in a matter of seconds by casters running around with levitate that I can barely follow as they glitch back and forth on this laggy server... I guess I just won't play.

compulsion
09-05-2012, 02:54 PM
lol @ people wanting group pvp to boil down to 4 druids spamming root on one person and then the melee train instantly killing them once it lands

In your scenario it will take those 4 druids on average just over 16 seconds of uninterrupted casting to land that 1 6% chance snare. That is just slightly longer than it would take 4 wizards to cast 8 ice comets. It is just shorter than it would take for 4 druids to put 4 WD, DD, Ro's on 4 targets.

Your oversimplification makes no sense at all, especially in light of how short heal ranges are in this game.

heartbrand
09-05-2012, 03:03 PM
This entire thread would be interesting if there was any actual large scale PVP, but there's not, so who really cares?

Dullah
09-05-2012, 03:04 PM
Largescale pvp = 90% of the server casting roots and assist training.

wtb darkfall 2.0

jeffd
09-05-2012, 03:06 PM
there's no largescale pvp because 75% of the online server pop at any given time are in the two blue raiding guilds

Dullah
09-05-2012, 03:09 PM
Raiding is obviously very blue. What were we all thinking on RZ/SZ/TZ/VZ for all those years. Think of all the time we wasted playing Everquest and raiding when we could have just PvP'd outside the city gates every day for 5 years.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 03:10 PM
Largescale pvp = 90% of the server casting roots and assist training.

wtb darkfall 2.0

Mass pvp involving tactics with assist? Fuck this shit I want my melee to run in like John Rambo attacking anything that moves. Sounds like WoW pvp is for u

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 03:15 PM
You say root ruins pvp yet u had no problem using conflag wands. I guess when it's not in your favor it needs to be changed. Btw who the hell focus fires a rogue anyway. Again it sounds like u r being rooted when up against multiple casters solo. Sorry you feel a rogue should come out of a 3v1 but that's redonkulous.

As for Nirgon saying 70mr should be immune lol. I have 72 mr with one buff and like 1 or 2 pieces of mr gear. Bards can stack 200+ easily. Shouldn't that be an advantage and not complete overkill

gloinz
09-05-2012, 03:17 PM
Just you , which is why you had to reroll wizard

low blow bc obviously the pvp champ would never reroll from dwarf/melee without extenuating circumstances. i'd like to play pally way more than wizard but i don't have the time to solo grind a melee on this box. considering my wizard got to 51 in the time it took my pally to get to 31 and all... anywho the slow ass xp for melees is another giant problem of the red99 box

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 03:23 PM
You say root ruins pvp yet u had no problem using conflag wands. I guess when it's not in your favor it needs to be changed. Btw who the hell focus fires a rogue anyway. Again it sounds like u r being rooted when up against multiple casters solo. Sorry you feel a rogue should come out of a 3v1 but that's redonkulous

Conflag wands are classic, like the tstaff. Both I agree are unfair.

But the point remains. This isn't a "balance pvp" project. It's a classic EQ project.

The WoW boards are/were a great place to play arm chair balance artist and I guess because of their community, it fit. It doesn't belong here.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 03:26 PM
Balance more important than classic imo

Kringe
09-05-2012, 03:27 PM
Sample size is incorrect as the "root spam" everyone was/is talking about comes from the druids line of root (Wooly Nets etc..) which in-fact should be much more resistable due to its dmg component, not just the root/immobilize/paralyzing earth line. But for some reason on this server it always has landed way more than it should have.

Dullah
09-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Mass pvp involving tactics with assist? Fuck this shit I want my melee to run in like John Rambo attacking anything that moves. Sounds like WoW pvp is for u
The emphasis was on the issue with rooting, not the assisting you tool.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 03:29 PM
Ah so instead of rooting the assist target Druids are working separately to root a bad rogue. Also nilly has like 20 Druids so why u qqing

gloinz
09-05-2012, 03:31 PM
Mass pvp involving tactics with assist? Fuck this shit I want my melee to run in like John Rambo attacking anything that moves. Sounds like WoW pvp is for u

ya but unlike john rambo the melee is gonna get killed by a rocket launchers from casters

you can still assist without root trains ya know its just a lot more work(skill) to switch to useful targets/keep your team together

in situations where dumb bluebies can't properly organize and run around blindly until they are all alone, the champ would divide and conquer like general lee

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 04:14 PM
This isn't a "balance pvp" project. It's a classic EQ project.



Who told you that?

Please go read Rogeans post from before the server even launched.

Its "custom classic".


Now that i've cleared that up for you, you can see this bigger picture with clearer eyes.

Actually, i've looked up the post for you.

Everyone please feast your eyes on this, and stop claiming you were hoodwinked:

What's funny is that you guys seem to think we were going to strictly adhere to 'classic' for the pvp server. On the contrary we would like to make it somewhat interesting and fun for everyone. Call it Custom Classic if you want, I don't give a shit.

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 04:15 PM
p.s.

/thread

heartbrand
09-05-2012, 04:19 PM
Who told you that?

Please go read Rogeans post from before the server even launched.

Its "custom classic".


Now that i've cleared that up for you, you can see this bigger picture with clearer eyes.

Actually, i've looked up the post for you.

Everyone please feast your eyes on this, and stop claiming you were hoodwinked:

oh the lols of tr0llb0rn telling us 1000x classic eq isn't for everybody go play ezmode and then posting this

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 04:30 PM
So if everyone except for someone who likes whirl spamming people in average gear decides it sucks...

Having to wear max magic in every slot and then even still getting rooted is stupid even in a custom sense.

Given lag on opening weekend and a hasty banning of our guild and failure to comply with server/project policy.. he doesn't hold much weight for me on what's good for this server or not right now. Besides, Nilbog is the project manager let him say it.

If no intentions exist to ever change this.. I'm good and done helping red. Yay for you!

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 04:45 PM
he doesn't hold much weight for me on what's good for this server or not right now. Besides, Nilbog is the project manager let him say it.



Nilbog already told you that the red server is Rogean's and he is the guideing hand behind it.

Once again, stop claiming you were hoodwinked:



Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp serve (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=1678)r is Rogean's. The pve server (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=787) is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

CrystalBlue
09-05-2012, 04:50 PM
So if everyone except for someone who likes whirl spamming people in average gear decides it sucks...



When is the last time you played?



It is literally impossible to get whirled with 120MR, its something like 103% chance of being resisted.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 04:51 PM
I've seen no evidence that supports max mr gear not resisting most roots. All I've heard is tall tales about the good ol days and stories of being rooted and killed when up against multiple casters solo. I'm open to evidence. I posted pvp guide from a rogue on tz or vz during 60 cap. He says MINIMAL mr is 140 to resists most roots. His guide is very detailed. No where do I see this 70 mr made up statistic of being immune to root. Put up facts orr hush.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 04:54 PM
God forbid people post evidence to support their claim.

Vayder
09-05-2012, 04:55 PM
waiting to see if thread generates more replies than the number of times I cast root

Casey II
09-05-2012, 04:56 PM
Sam, stop being a ****** and give me my loots back that you borrowed.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 05:00 PM
Sam, stop being a ****** and give me my loots back that you borrowed.

At school and I did log on yesterday to test root ang give back pixels but I guess you were too busy organizing your terabyte hd filled to the last byte with hentai

Nirgon
09-05-2012, 05:09 PM
When is the last time you played?

How about someone with 60 magic resist not 120. I said average gear my dear selective reader.


If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.


Lay down and give up when the chips are down and people are being critical is a great strategy. You'll sure show them!




If they're willing to take a look at resists or item loot again, lemme know. I care very little anymore what you think I do or don't know about EverQuest PvP.

Good luck!

Dullah
09-05-2012, 05:10 PM
pvp in classic EQ was better than it is here. If you didn't play there, you wouldn't know. Most of you didn't even play there, or weren't old enough. Then the other half of you against MR seldom even pvped here or reached max level. There didn't need to be changes to the classic system, thats the fact of the matter. Casters were still a threat and perfectly viable in pvp even up to the end of velious when melee became so beast. A good caster didn't need to rely on root. Knowing how to play your class and not let melee beat your face in was always a good strat. It can be here too.... or we can just leave root spam in as the primo tactic!

Diggles
09-05-2012, 05:11 PM
casey want your zweihander?

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 07:02 PM
pvp in classic EQ was better than it is here. If you didn't play there, you wouldn't know. Most of you didn't even play there, or weren't old enough. Then the other half of you against MR seldom even pvped here or reached max level. There didn't need to be changes to the classic system, thats the fact of the matter. Casters were still a threat and perfectly viable in pvp even up to the end of velious when melee became so beast. A good caster didn't need to rely on root. Knowing how to play your class and not let melee beat your face in was always a good strat. It can be here too.... or we can just leave root spam in as the primo tactic!

Lol at someone dying to chain root. Someone buy this bluebie some pumice.

mostbitter
09-05-2012, 08:06 PM
lol @ samwise not playin for months not being max level and knowing it all

canardvc
09-05-2012, 08:13 PM
As if being max level had anything to do with knowing anything.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 08:20 PM
From the VZ 60 Cap Rogue on the safehouse.

http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2872

"Recommended Resists by Order of Importance:
1. Magic: 160-180+ (minimum 140) At this level it is exceedingly rare to be snared/rooted but it occasionally happens when tashed/maloed. Most magic DDs will be resisted totally or partially. Normal mezzes should be resisted.
2. Heat: 140-180+ (minimum 120) Many classes use fire, and it hits hard.
3. Disease: 130-160+ (minimum 100) Most useful against Pox of Bertoxxulous. Pox will stick a good bit at 80 and the surrounding range. Insidious Malady is highly difficult to resist and will decrease disease resist by a lot. It takes 2 charges of SHM cure disease potion to cure and is fast casting. PoB takes 2 charges as well.
3. Poison: 120-140+ (minimum 100) Most useful vs. Envenomed Bolt (ebolt) and Bane of Nife. Same success rate as PoB, perhaps a little lower.
3. Cold: 120-140+ (minimum 100) Not used very much. Shaman nukes and bracer mostly, occasionally druid, rarely wizard. "

this guy ran around with 140 minimum but suggests up to 180+, his guide is huge and a good read. I actually linked it when i first started playing but noone commented. anyhow his suggestions seem to fall in line with what is needed here to be safe from CC.

post was made in 2001 but author said he quit at luclin so all of this pertains to kunark - velious era. lets see some evidence to support your claims instead of your "war stories"

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 08:25 PM
another quote in thread from a response, " I found 140 MR and 120ish FR to be plenty against the overwhelming bulk of spells I faced at 60. My other resists simply didn't matter." these guys must have played a different everquest live than the whiners here.

bamzal
09-05-2012, 08:26 PM
bc the melee catchs up cuts off caster and stabs them in the mouth or goes and attacks someone else nearby

i know jousting is a hard skillset that no one on this box possesses but its a++ fun

ahh a hint of that classic pvp nostalgia. have yet to experience anything close to that on this fucking disgrace of a pvp server.

bamzal
09-05-2012, 08:33 PM
Nilbog already told you that the red server is Rogean's and he is the guideing hand behind it.

Once again, stop claiming you were hoodwinked:

He should guide his hand like a fist to rogeans face

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 08:39 PM
Post from April 2001
"Paladins all come down to MR and snare/blind and disarm. A good paladin will try to root, blind and stun. with 100+ MR, you will resist 90% of them and scare the crap out of them

Only class I truely fear is a shaman. I hear that they can kite AND tank you if slow hits

I respect monks/war only as far as their poison resist gear. IF you have your ripost disc up, use the root+haste poison and stand there and watch them kill themselves on your 100% ripost.

Note: Biggest complaint from melee and most casters when dueling a rogue- "They keep moving around, I can't him 'em"

I'll take that one
Poisin Daggerfist,60th Assassin- Retired

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 08:40 PM
another from april 2001,

"If the Rogue has 130 of every resist, Jboots against a weak sow, and 30 dispel items in his pants that he uses like an expert, he'll make short work of the druid. Or a necro."

http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7510

I see a ton of posts with 120+ being safe from snare and most roots. I'd say that's about the same here according to OPs test results.

SamwiseBanned
09-05-2012, 08:43 PM
Versus casters you should look at getting some decent resists. Up to you how you want to pursue this. I find that MR is very important versus clerics, druids and mages. But don't sacrifice too many HP's. Infact, one strategy is to get enough MR to resist most roots and snares (150ish) and then just concentrate on pure HP's.

I can keep going. mad?

Dullah
09-05-2012, 11:11 PM
You can quote people from the wrong era all you want. Those of us who actually played, know what it was really like.

If you sacrificed a few hundred hp and stats for 100mr, you were quite literally immune to most magic based spells. I could waste my time finding old posts that reflect that, but it won't change anything. Rogean will still be playing star wars (http://www.twitch.tv/rogean), and Nilbog will still be waiting on Rogean to do something about red while he finishes Velious.

Dullah
09-05-2012, 11:13 PM
Also, 100 MR doesn't give you 90% resistance to any magic based spell here. Not even 60%. Something those of us presently logged in know all too well. Get a new hobby, troll somewhere else.

ps. wtb a fix for regen items. This fungi tunic in my bag makes me sad.

SamwiseBanned
09-06-2012, 12:13 AM
Also, 100 MR doesn't give you 90% resistance to any magic based spell here. Not even 60%. Something those of us presently logged in know all too well. Get a new hobby, troll somewhere else.

ps. wtb a fix for regen items. This fungi tunic in my bag makes me sad.

prove it, i know you are probably pveing up a storm but make some time to SS you getting rooted all the time with 140 mr. also these guys comments are from vz/tz/sz, the servers that actually had pvp. rz was bluebie city. anyone else find it odd that destin QQs about MR when he decides to main a rogue instead of a conflag wand mule. hmmm

Dullah
09-06-2012, 12:39 AM
I said the exact same things about MR before my rogue was ever created. What now?

Haul
09-06-2012, 12:39 AM
How about this....

Fucking deal with it.

The end.

stfu and go play with your Magic Card collection NERD :D

Supreme
09-06-2012, 12:58 AM
Lots of crying over no PVP by the very people that never go PVP.

Hate bluebies dominating the red server...then do something about it. Dont like resists stop rolling ez mode wizards/druids and play a hybrid melee.

But please just STFU already about the same OLD shit...

runlvlzero
09-06-2012, 01:00 AM
*some of this thread* consists of...

Solo meleeleelee player wants to own all the boxbyself

/confirmed

Though sam, thanks for pointing all this out. And putting in real effort to give us real numbers.

Haul
09-06-2012, 01:04 AM
Lots of crying over no PVP by the very people that never go PVP.

Hate bluebies dominating the red server...then do something about it. Dont like resists stop rolling ez mode wizards/druids and play a hybrid melee.

But please just STFU already about the same OLD shit...

Go play Magic Cards

Supreme
09-06-2012, 01:05 AM
Go play Magic Cards

A RMT Everquest Nerd telling someone to "Go play Magic Cards".

wut?

Dullah
09-06-2012, 01:09 AM
Heres a real number from someone that was en epic neckbeard during live. Its a really small number so it should be easy to comprehend. Like someone else said, I'm sorry I didn't post it on allakhazam to refer back to a decade later...

From late kunark-velious, I remember getting rooted 1 time while wearing resist gear. I still remember the place - was in cobalt scar near the portal. A snare landed on me somehow and I was so surprised I just kept running for a few seconds trying to get over it... was like what-the-fuck! I then egg shape pumiced it off and jbooted back up to chase my attacker and made him run up the tower and zone into skyshrine. Was literally the only time I can recall after 80mr.

Smedy
09-06-2012, 06:09 AM
Can we get more root tests from the bluebies with good gear? If this sucker tried to root himself over and over maybe it's different.

Pretty sure Supreme want shit to stay as he is the class that benefits the most out of the situation, also 4 of his 6 chins agrees with me.

Hybrid with channeling - check
Has shadowstep to avoid getting ganked when rooted in raid situations - check
Has snare spell so he can snare other targets - check

SamwiseBanned
09-06-2012, 08:36 AM
Can we get more root tests from the bluebies with good gear? If this sucker tried to root himself over and over maybe it's different.

Pretty sure Supreme want shit to stay as he is the class that benefits the most out of the situation, also 4 of his 6 chins agrees with me.

Hybrid with channeling - check
Has shadowstep to avoid getting ganked when rooted in raid situations - check
Has snare spell so he can snare other targets - check

siskel and ebert give it 4 chins up

Haul
09-06-2012, 08:59 AM
4 chins rofl

Haul
09-06-2012, 09:00 AM
A RMT Everquest Nerd telling someone to "Go play Magic Cards".

wut?

I played baseball ages 5-16 and travel ball 13-16, DEFINATELY barely qualify as a nerd and I'm also incredibly fortunate to have wonderful genes in the good look department because my mom was a hot blonde and my dad is super atheletic. You are fucking nuts Mr. Magic Cards. _Supreme~ "My magic card collection is worth $40,000 and you can hear me talk about it in ventrilo for over an hour if you even mention anything in the category of Magic derpa derp derp"~~

Tumdumm
09-06-2012, 09:15 AM
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Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:27 AM
I played baseball ages 5-16 and travel ball 13-16, DEFINATELY barely qualify as a nerd and I'm also incredibly fortunate to have wonderful genes in the good look department because my mom was a hot blonde and my dad is super atheletic. You are fucking nuts Mr. Magic Cards. _Supreme~ "My magic card collection is worth $40,000 and you can hear me talk about it in ventrilo for over an hour if you even mention anything in the category of Magic derpa derp derp"~~


so because you sat the bench and played some "no winners no loser" kiddy klub baseball that somehow means that you are not "qualified as a nerd"...

Yet you had 70 days played on your enchanter farming items on a obviously "dead" server for RMT before you was banned for running your mouth to everyone.


It is actually humorous to read you bash "my magic card collection" while you still play on a EQ EMU still trolling forums.

http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/55199/1240054507/Othm.JPG

Haul
09-06-2012, 09:32 AM
Dude you're such a fuckin loser rofl. I batted lead off and stole bases consistently because I was incredibly fast. I wasn't a power hitter. Also travel team doesn't have bench players until ages 18+, everyone plays you don't know shit about baseball it isn't the major leagues. Not to mention I got called up to play with the older kids a few times. You are such a fuckin prick dude- I also had like 45-50 days played at best guess definately not 70. You are a shitty low class human being man. Why don't you keep pretending to be loyal to people then turn around and show your blatant selfishness. I take back anything good I ever said about you. Mr. Magic Cards :)

Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:35 AM
Can we get more root tests from the bluebies with good gear? If this sucker tried to root himself over and over maybe it's different.

Pretty sure Supreme want shit to stay as he is the class that benefits the most out of the situation, also 4 of his 6 chins agrees with me.

Hybrid with channeling - check
Has shadowstep to avoid getting ganked when rooted in raid situations - check
Has snare spell so he can snare other targets - check


Smedy you are not this stupid.

I get resisted by PCs and NPCs, how am i a class that benefits the MOST?

Oh thats right..i get channeling...and shadowstep and i can snare..

Obviously i should be on the "fix resists bandwagon" so everything i cast lands 9/10 times right?


Do you even play here anymore or just troll?

Haul
09-06-2012, 09:36 AM
In addition to that at age 15 our team was 18-0 and that was one of the most enjoyable times of my life. Don't be jealous that I hung with the jocks and wasn't a social outcast who was unathletic like you. Keep taking fake unbacked shots at a 24 year old who has had Crohns Disease for 14 years and almost died from a quarter size perforation in my small intestine 2 weeks ago. You don't even know the beginning of how to be a humble, generous, and caring human being. Fuckin neckbeard wow-

Haul
09-06-2012, 09:39 AM
so because you sat the bench and played some "no winners no loser" kiddy klub baseball that somehow means that you are not "qualified as a nerd"...

Yet you had 70 days played on your enchanter farming items on a obviously "dead" server for RMT before you was banned for running your mouth to everyone.


It is actually humorous to read you bash "my magic card collection" while you still play on a EQ EMU still trolling forums.

http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/55199/1240054507/Othm.JPG

P.S. server wasn't dead when I farmed it was healthy and going strong. lol

Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:44 AM
Dude you're such a fuckin loser rofl. I batted lead off and stole bases consistently because I was incredibly fast. I wasn't a power hitter. Also travel team doesn't have bench players until ages 18+, everyone plays you don't know shit about baseball it isn't the major leagues. Not to mention I got called up to play with the older kids a few times. You are such a fuckin prick dude- I also had like 45-50 days played at best guess definately not 70. You are a shitty low class human being man. Why don't you keep pretending to be loyal to people then turn around and show your blatant selfishness. I take back anything good I ever said about you. Mr. Magic Cards :)


Wow you are so AWESOME and COOL. A super athelete with a super model mom and a super atheletic dad...yet you had 45-50 days played on a server that was only up for a total of 120ish days before you were BANNED for RMT.

Your bullshit does not pass the smell test.

And your MAD and SAD posts trying to justify it is pathetic.

Here have a T-shirt it will help wipe away the tears.

http://www.nihilumguild.com/images/naturaltshirt.png

PhantomRogue
09-06-2012, 09:49 AM
In addition to that at age 15 our team was 18-0 and that was one of the most enjoyable times of my life. Don't be jealous that I hung with the jocks and wasn't a social outcast who was unathletic like you. Keep taking fake unbacked shots at a 24 year old who has had Crohns Disease for 14 years and almost died from a quarter size perforation in my small intestine 2 weeks ago. You don't even know the beginning of how to be a humble, generous, and caring human being. Fuckin neckbeard wow-

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/346/969638-cool_story__bro_super.jpg

Haul
09-06-2012, 09:50 AM
LOL you sound mad now, and Troriste had just as much or more /played than me so are you comparatively disrespecting him too? I did a bunch of shit for you, corpse dragged and buffed you tons and this is how you show your appreciation? Fuck you ***** you're a low class bum ass mooch who uses third party nerd shit to cheat (proven). You act like my previous RMTing was a sin. Your morals and values are so skewed in jealously it's embarassing. What I did in my freetime shouldn't have been any of your concern. Not to mention I was one of the people who gave good word on your reputation before you joined Nihilum because I had recognized you from blue99 on your Halfling Rogue. Your insults are incredibly lackluster and far-fetched. Going back to bed cause I need my rest though, have fun being a shitty fuck of a human being, you've been served neckbeard- God Bless

Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:51 AM
In addition to that at age 15 our team was 18-0 and that was one of the most enjoyable times of my life. Don't be jealous that I hung with the jocks and wasn't a social outcast who was unathletic like you. Keep taking fake unbacked shots at a 24 year old who has had Crohns Disease for 14 years and almost died from a quarter size perforation in my small intestine 2 weeks ago. You don't even know the beginning of how to be a humble, generous, and caring human being. Fuckin neckbeard wow-

Aww you want me to throw you a pity party?

You came at me brosef. If you dont want to play with the big dogs keep your sorry ass on the porch.

Talking shit then trying to garner sympathy might work with your hot blonde mom and super athletic daddy...but i dont give a fuck.

heartbrand
09-06-2012, 09:54 AM
lol @ people wasting their time responding to Supreme, guy has legit downs. At least mellow can be funny @ times.

Smedy
09-06-2012, 09:55 AM
Just saying that sk is one of the classes that REALLY benefit from root/snare effects landing more then on live. Huge HP, huge AC, shadowstep, FD, Channeling among other things to stay alive when rooted/snared, so ofcourse it's not a huge deal for a sk.

I am not really on any side here though, i did see nulls resist curve and it looked "OK" to me with 120 being around 93% resist to magic, however i never counted in whatever modifiers that may be applied through the spells_us file, i think the druid root is on -25 but cannot confirm, the issue may be that the resist scales to drastically on the top end of the curve?

If we could get null to post the curve again maybe we could figure it out, maybe 100mr only resists 60% while +20 on that 100 scales up to 90%, then counting the modifiers within spells_us you might find the issue.

I play, super serial, currently developing a second chin and coming for that dragon loots dog, don't trip

Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:55 AM
LOL you sound mad now, and Troriste had just as much or more /played than me so are you comparatively disrespecting him too? I did a bunch of shit for you, corpse dragged and buffed you tons and this is how you show your appreciation? Fuck you ***** you're a low class bum ass mooch who uses third party nerd shit to cheat (proven). You act like my previous RMTing was a sin. Your morals and values are so skewed in jealously it's embarassing. What I did in my freetime shouldn't have been any of your concern. Not to mention I was one of the people who gave good word on your reputation before you joined Nihilum because I had recognized you from blue99 on your Halfling Rogue. Your insults are incredibly lackluster and far-fetched. Going back to bed cause I need my rest though, have fun being a shitty fuck of a human being, you've been served neckbeard- God Bless

It wasnt my concern...until you started running your mouth to guildmates, skipping raids to farm and fighting with your guildmembers for camps. While holding the tag Nihilum to protect you.

As for "before i joined Nihilum" you do realize that you had nothing to do with it. I knew Nizzar LONG before EQ Emulator was even created.


Yeah go back to bed son. Try pulling your head out of your ass..it might help with your problem.

Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:57 AM
Just saying that sk is one of the classes that REALLY benefit from root/snare effects landing more then on live. Huge HP, huge AC, shadowstep, FD, Channeling among other things to stay alive when rooted/snared, so ofcourse it's not a huge deal for a sk.

I am not really on any side here though, i did see nulls resist curve and it looked "OK" to me with 120 being around 93% resist to magic, however i never counted in whatever modifiers that may be applied through the spells_us file, i think the druid root is on -25 but cannot confirm, the issue may be that the resist scales wrong.

If we could get null to post the curve again maybe we could figure it out, maybe 100mr only resists 60% while +20 on that 100 scales up to 90, then counting the modifiers within spells_us you might find the issue.

I play, super serial, coming for your second chin and that loot dog, don't trip


My issue is not with constructive posts. It is the whining. Like somehow people are expected to pay to have this stuff fixed and when it isnt there is a bandwagon of trolls to feast on the issue.

Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:57 AM
lol @ people wasting their time responding to Supreme, guy has legit downs. At least mellow can be funny @ times.

Obv.

You get your corpse back?

heartbrand
09-06-2012, 10:04 AM
??? I've died once since kunark launched when I zoned low health into minie and hectorchrist.

bamzal
09-06-2012, 10:28 AM
I can keep going. mad?

You can quote people from the wrong era all you want. Those of us who actually played, know what it was really like.

CrystalBlue
09-06-2012, 10:36 AM
What's funny is that you guys seem to think we were going to strictly adhere to 'classic' for the pvp server. On the contrary we would like to make it somewhat interesting and fun for everyone. Call it Custom Classic if you want, I don't give a shit.

On the contrary we would like to make it somewhat interesting and fun for everyone.


Thank you Rogean, being something other then a one shot Rapture bot at end game will keep things more interesting for an up and comming Enchantress like me. The shaman who can actually land their lower level malo lines and cripples, and the mages who use to be just weak life support for easily CC'ed pets plus many more all thank you too for keeping it INTERESTING for us all.

You guys need to think outside the box with this, forget all your old tired strategies and experiment with your abilities and spellbooks (and poisons....). This is an opportunity to learn new "secret strategies" to own people with. Try different things out, become the new master of your class in this new age.

Free your mind.

Dullah
09-06-2012, 10:55 AM
Not classic. No interest. Mages were weak?.. ya crack in your cornflakes this morning? You obviously didn't play 5 minutes of EQ live. Been trolling us this long Rydar, Trollborn, Crystalblue claiming all these EQ merit badges and don't know the fundaments of the classes.

We didn't come here for
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Haul
09-06-2012, 12:53 PM
It wasnt my concern...until you started running your mouth to guildmates, skipping raids to farm and fighting with your guildmembers for camps. While holding the tag Nihilum to protect you.

As for "before i joined Nihilum" you do realize that you had nothing to do with it. I knew Nizzar LONG before EQ Emulator was even created.


Yeah go back to bed son. Try pulling your head out of your ass..it might help with your problem.

I'm sure you know how spiritually strong and grateful I am in the good Lord (maybe you're athiest who knows and it may not mean anything,swear to God that Troriste SENT ME TELL when you had asked him to join asking if you were a spy. I stood up for you because I had multiple conversations with you on my mule Armani when you were in the ec tunnle. On my life that is the truth. You have delusions of graduer Mr. Magic Cards :D

Haul
09-06-2012, 01:01 PM
I thought oddjob already revealed the truth about you having bad genes, hereditary defects,etc. that "required" you to sit at the computer all day every day RMTing up a storm to pay for your weed/coke (or was it meth?) habit to ease your pain/humiliation/isolation or wtf ever it was?

What was your condition again?

Please stfu, EQ RMT kingpin/head nerd.

I have Crohns Disease buddy, you can't even tell I have a illness by looking at me. Other than me being a little skinnier than the average person. I tried cocaine a few times back in 2006 my senior year of highschool just like almost any other normal kid and the stuff was lame. It's affects weren't even cool and it didn't last long. As for meth I swear on my life, family, and the good Lord that I've never even tried it or even been offered to try it. If you use meth even once your brain chemistry is changed for life. It is one of the only drugs that is like that (to my knowledge, but its a proven fact about meth). Dunno if you ever went to college though to learn and cognitively restructure your brain to be a smarter and more well rounded human being. All I do is marijuana (can't atm cause I'm recovering from surgery), and occasional pain pills taken orally because they're perscribed for pain. They are addictive though so I don't do them too often, and also if you build up a tolerance they don't even work worth a shit. Not really sure why you're stepping up to the plate disrespecting, perhaps you're in Nihilum and trying to impress your buddys to show you're a loyal lacky. Anywho God bless dude no hard feelings I don't even know you- :cool:

Amesplayerofgames
09-06-2012, 03:36 PM
I have Crohns Disease buddy, you can't even tell I have a illness by looking at me. Other than me being a little skinnier than the average person. I tried cocaine a few times back in 2006 my senior year of highschool just like almost any other normal kid and the stuff was lame. It's affects weren't even cool and it didn't last long. As for meth I swear on my life, family, and the good Lord that I've never even tried it or even been offered to try it. If you use meth even once your brain chemistry is changed for life. It is one of the only drugs that is like that (to my knowledge, but its a proven fact about meth). Dunno if you ever went to college though to learn and cognitively restructure your brain to be a smarter and more well rounded human being. All I do is marijuana (can't atm cause I'm recovering from surgery), and occasional pain pills taken orally because they're perscribed for pain. They are addictive though so I don't do them too often, and also if you build up a tolerance they don't even work worth a shit. Not really sure why you're stepping up to the plate disrespecting, perhaps you're in Nihilum and trying to impress your buddys to show you're a loyal lacky. Anywho God bless dude no hard feelings I don't even know you- :cool:
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Amesplayerofgames
09-06-2012, 03:40 PM
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Kringe
09-06-2012, 03:50 PM
Thank you Rogean, being something other then a one shot Rapture bot at end game will keep things more interesting for an up and comming Enchantress like me. The shaman who can actually land their lower level malo lines and cripples, and the mages who use to be just weak life support for easily CC'ed pets plus many more all thank you too for keeping it INTERESTING for us all.

You guys need to think outside the box with this, forget all your old tired strategies and experiment with your abilities and spellbooks (and poisons....). This is an opportunity to learn new "secret strategies" to own people with. Try different things out, become the new master of your class in this new age.

Free your mind.
Thats nice and all then maybe he should change the front page...This is its current form.


Welcome
Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward.


Cause thats not at all what I remember 1999 to be like..

Supreme
09-06-2012, 05:39 PM
I have Crohns Disease buddy, you can't even tell I have a illness by looking at me. Other than me being a little skinnier than the average person. I tried cocaine a few times back in 2006 my senior year of highschool just like almost any other normal kid and the stuff was lame. It's affects weren't even cool and it didn't last long. As for meth I swear on my life, family, and the good Lord that I've never even tried it or even been offered to try it. If you use meth even once your brain chemistry is changed for life. It is one of the only drugs that is like that (to my knowledge, but its a proven fact about meth). Dunno if you ever went to college though to learn and cognitively restructure your brain to be a smarter and more well rounded human being. All I do is marijuana (can't atm cause I'm recovering from surgery), and occasional pain pills taken orally because they're perscribed for pain. They are addictive though so I don't do them too often, and also if you build up a tolerance they don't even work worth a shit. Not really sure why you're stepping up to the plate disrespecting, perhaps you're in Nihilum and trying to impress your buddys to show you're a loyal lacky. Anywho God bless dude no hard feelings I don't even know you- :cool:


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Graahle
09-06-2012, 07:08 PM
The majority of this thread is so pathetic.

EQtrader
09-06-2012, 07:23 PM
omg this root test has me rushing back to the server to play, thank god!!!!!!! im logging in right now

heartbrand
09-06-2012, 07:36 PM
How low can people be to truly make fun of someone who has a serious medical condition, it baffles me? Ok, the guy sold some items in a fake emulated 12 year old game, does that somehow make him a bad human being in real life? Really low, really pathetic. You people would never say this stuff to these people's faces. Some of the posts in this thread show the type of people you are, and it's sad.

Haul
09-06-2012, 08:06 PM
^ good looking out my true friend :)

Lazortag
09-06-2012, 08:35 PM
How low can people be to truly make fun of someone who has a serious medical condition, it baffles me? Ok, the guy sold some items in a fake emulated 12 year old game, does that somehow make him a bad human being in real life? Really low, really pathetic. You people would never say this stuff to these people's faces. Some of the posts in this thread show the type of people you are, and it's sad.

As if no one has made fun of a certain frenchie for being wheelchair-bound? I don't think doing either is right (though I'm not really offended by anything), I just think this post is a little disingenuous.

canardvc
09-06-2012, 08:42 PM
Whats this thread all about again ? Ah yeah roots.

Is it easier to root a wheelchair pal ?

heartbrand
09-06-2012, 08:48 PM
Difference is Troriste isn't actually wheel chair bound.

Supreme
09-06-2012, 09:36 PM
Talking shit and getting humilated then trying to play the "i got cancer/anal butt fungus feel sorry for me" card doesnt work.

If you want sympathy look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. Other wise shut the hell up if you are too thin skinned to deal with it.

gloinz
09-06-2012, 10:36 PM
supreme laying down the smackdown left and right

http://i.imgur.com/YnuhB.jpg

Vile
09-06-2012, 11:04 PM
for a gloinz pic, thats pretty weak bro

Haul
09-06-2012, 11:12 PM
Talking shit and getting humilated then trying to play the "i got cancer/anal butt fungus feel sorry for me" card doesnt work.

If you want sympathy look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. Other wise shut the hell up if you are too thin skinned to deal with it.

I have Crohn's Disease in my small intestine not colon. Way to show your true colors Mr. Magic Cards the athiest. Also definately didn't get humilated you're a lowclass bum who scrapes the bottom of the barrel for insults rofl. Suck a dick, no homo- :)

P.S. never said I have cancer. I've done over 8 years of cancer drugs because it's the only treatment available for Crohns disease unfortunately, beside prednisone which isn't that effective and has terrible side effects/detox

Lord have mercy on you man your soul loathsome

Ambrotos
09-07-2012, 12:04 AM
Going to be a lot less message board trolls. Keep it up

notCwall
09-07-2012, 12:10 AM
i didn't read this thread but i'm clocking in to remind you all that supreme is a fat piece of shit mexican

Rygor
09-07-2012, 12:12 AM
Going to be a lot less message board trolls. Keep it up

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bY269UFyFrw/T6M6Ht7nV-I/AAAAAAAAANg/vUSz9V7Ug6c/s1600/shut-up.jpg

Tombom
09-07-2012, 12:32 AM
i didn't read this thread but i'm clocking in to remind you all that supreme is a fat piece of shit mexican

essentially this,

pal cwall i will always miss our night in chardok at the herbalist,

go on to do great things man.

Tombom
09-07-2012, 12:33 AM
Going to be a lot less message board trolls. Keep it up

you are a cunt

Smedy
09-07-2012, 01:32 AM
this thread is becoming more relevant to my interests, please continue about assburgers and where is gyno when you need him

mindsculptor
09-07-2012, 01:52 AM
empirical tests belong in rant & flames, come on op you should know that

jeffd
09-07-2012, 05:32 AM
thread was inching towards greatness before ambertis shut it all down

good try pals

Vayder
09-07-2012, 08:15 AM
empirical tests belong in rant & flames, come on op you should know that

Sorry, forgot to consider that everything I post on red forums should be here...

karsten
09-07-2012, 08:55 AM
hey you quoted someone but the text is actually different than what they really said that is cool how can i do that

Amesplayerofgames
09-07-2012, 09:25 AM
supreme laying down the smackdown left and right

http://i.imgur.com/YnuhB.jpg

lol

Nirgon
09-07-2012, 12:14 PM
Yeah this is the best thread in recent times.

I'm going to get on the telegraph and tap out the Gyno signal.

BigSlip
09-07-2012, 01:21 PM
supreme laying down the smackdown left and right

http://i.imgur.com/YnuhB.jpg




a+

Nirgon
09-07-2012, 01:41 PM
Again, if this is the case why would anyone play a melee if everyone is immune to CC? Even in mass pvp they would do nothing...

People died in classic pvp Vayder, lots of people.

Haul
09-07-2012, 03:20 PM
Looks like Mr. Magic Cards finally stfu :)

Casey II
09-07-2012, 03:21 PM
No he's just eating. Don't interrupt his meal.

Haul
09-07-2012, 03:30 PM
LOL

Vayder
09-07-2012, 07:15 PM
People died in classic pvp Vayder, lots of people.

Which is my point. Obv the "you can just autorun away from melee" thing is way overexaggerated.

Bamz4l
10-08-2013, 07:23 PM
Not classic. No interest. Mages were weak?.. ya crack in your cornflakes this morning? You obviously didn't play 5 minutes of EQ live. Been trolling us this long Rydar, Trollborn, Crystalblue claiming all these EQ merit badges and don't know the fundamentals of the classes.

We didn't come here for
http://i.imgur.com/IcL4L.png

Mingo
10-08-2013, 08:32 PM
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Platinum jacinth ring 14
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Wolf eye golden bracelet 7
Shiverback hide gloves 7
Pearlescent mask 10
Tranix crown 20
Fingerbone hoop 5
earring of essence 10
Sarnak emblazoned tabard 10

Total mr: 129(monk starts with 25 mr?)

So I have to wear all that to get 94% resist rate? dayum I pity the monks not able to get 80% of these items. I feel like its quite ridiculous that I have to wear 10 pieces of decently hard to get gear to achieve those results. This means my strenght/other resists are crap just to be able to resist the CC spam.

If you're available, lets try this with you casting root and snare on a player 7-8 levels higher than you!


I'd like to reiterate how dumb this is, lets say a necro lands a 1min root on me. He has a pet -- I'm a sitting duck for 1 minute unless I waste a pillage wand on myself or miraculously I'm able to dodge a pet's attack for 3 second and get a pumice off.

Theres no wonder theres barely any melees on this server. Its not fun.


Not sure if serious or dumb, it's always a 50/50 with Nizzar.

Plat Jacinth Rings (3-4k/pair) - 26 MR
Wolfs Eye Golden Bracer (100p/pair) - 14 MR
Wolfs Eye Platinum Necklace (150p) - 9 MR
Sarnak Emblazoned Tabard (200p) - 10 MR
Earring of Essence (3k) - 10 MR
Pearlescent Mask (5 rot every 3 hours in Kedge) - 10 MR
Celestial Fists (every monk 55+ has) - 10 MR
Thex Mallet (2 hour quest at level 20) - 5 MR

+94 MR, less than 10k in resist gear and an epic which can be done with less than two groups, to reach 95% unrootable status in pvp against and equal level character.

I know that 3.0 click pumice is really hard to figure out.. nevermind the typing. Go fuck yourself, you're bad.

Mingo
10-08-2013, 08:39 PM
How low can people be to truly make fun of someone who has a serious medical condition, it baffles me? ...Really low, really pathetic. You people would never say this stuff to these people's faces. Some of the posts in this thread show the type of people you are, and it's sad.

lol @ people wasting their time responding to Supreme, guy has legit downs...


Dawg i'm not sure which post to believe. I'm torn in two completely different directions. Do i believe the Heartbrand that lashes out and makes fun of Supreme's disorder or do i believe the white knight who defends fair maidens and the disadvantaged.

Retti_
10-08-2013, 10:13 PM
Lewis u realize that nizzar post is from sept 2012 shortly after kunark launch when all that stuff was expensive and rare

Retti_
10-08-2013, 10:15 PM
At least the eoe, hoop, and jacs were still classic expensive. Nobody had monk epic and nobody had pearl mask either it was rare as shit in classic

Mingo
10-08-2013, 11:12 PM
Did not realize.

He is however listing Fingerbone Hoop as something he's equipping and we all know it's harder to get a FB Hoop than it is monk epic. As a classic farmer of Allizesaur with my pal Cast i know Jacinths dropped every 6 hours. Before planes even came out Jacinths werent rare, valuable, but not rare or hard to obtain.

I'll allow for 3 MR in exchange of shiverback gloves for Celestial Fists but my point is not defeated. Drop MR by 3, make it 91 and add another MR item like Earring of Magic Reflection (yes, i understand the rarity from Nillipus quest although with the year+ that this server sat in classic it's not hard to kill a 2 hr repop mob, (hell Fallen had a 2boxed warrior factioned with bandages and dedicated to this camp).

Also, dont overlook the fact that Nizzar thought Plat Jac rings were 14 MR.

heartbrand
10-08-2013, 11:12 PM
Dawg i'm not sure which post to believe. I'm torn in two completely different directions. Do i believe the Heartbrand that lashes out and makes fun of Supreme's disorder or do i believe the white knight who defends fair maidens and the disadvantaged.

Both

runlvlzero
10-09-2013, 12:27 AM
Heartbrand doesn't believe in his own shit, he just pretended to for so long he gets legitimately confused as to what it is.

Smedy
10-09-2013, 09:32 AM
Listening to heartbrand is like listening to wind chimes, his opinions change with the flow of pixels

Bamz4l
10-09-2013, 10:48 AM
ya.. I didn't mean to bump this thread yesterday. sorry bout that

freez
10-09-2013, 10:50 AM
95 resists - 6 landed

That's the largest sample size I'm aware of anyone providing and has root at ~6% chance at 128mr...

Log search for root results in:

[Wed Sep 05 08:24:37 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:39 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:39 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:42 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:24:44 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:24:49 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:26:39 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:26:44 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:26:49 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:26:54 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:26:59 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:27:19 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:27:27 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:27:32 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:27:35 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:39 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:44 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:46 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:46 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:49 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:27:51 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:27:57 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:28:02 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:28:02 2012] You resist the Root spell!
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[Wed Sep 05 08:30:10 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:30:25 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:30:29 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:30:34 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:34 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:37 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:39 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:39 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:42 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:44 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:44 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:47 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:52 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:54 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:54 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:56 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:58 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:30:58 2012] You resist the Root spell!
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:03 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:08 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:14 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:18 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:23 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:28 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:33 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:38 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:42 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:47 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:52 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:31:57 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:32:32 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:32:37 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:32:42 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:32:47 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:32:52 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:32:57 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:02 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:06 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:11 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:16 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:21 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:26 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:31 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:35 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:40 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:45 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:50 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:33:55 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:00 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:05 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:10 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:15 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:20 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:25 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:30 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:35 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:38 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:40 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
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[Wed Sep 05 08:34:44 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:46 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:46 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:48 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:50 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:50 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:53 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:55 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:56 2012] You resist the Root spell!
[Wed Sep 05 08:34:58 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:35:03 2012] You begin casting Root.
[Wed Sep 05 08:35:05 2012] Your target resisted the Root spell.
[Wed Sep 05 08:35:05 2012] You resist the Root spell!



thats a tier 1 root


try tier 3

freez
10-09-2013, 10:52 AM
woops this thread is old as fuck

Alecta
10-09-2013, 11:13 AM
thats a tier 1 root


try tier 3

Yar, bit of a thread necro, but even the best roots hit a 98% resist rate at 125 mr.

Which is achievable using 70 (Group Resist Magic), 85 (Resist Magic), 101 (Shield of Magi), or 125mr from gear.

Or using 224mr from gear if you are buffless and debuffed with malosini and tashanian.

freez
10-10-2013, 01:44 AM
Which is achievable using 70 (Group Resist Magic), 85 (Resist Magic), 101 (Shield of Magi), or 125mr from gear.


GRM is giving more mr than a single cast MR, not sure if thats what you meant but i might be reading this wrong.

Retti_
10-10-2013, 02:25 AM
Not sure wat alecta saying either

Alecta
10-10-2013, 08:11 AM
Just reminding people about the impact of buffs / debuffs when it comes to hitting the 98% resist rate.

70mr from gear + gmr
85mr from gear + resist magic
101mr from gear + shield of magi
225mr from gear + no buffs + malosi + tashanian

BrobbVZ
10-10-2013, 08:28 AM
Alecta, I'm confused still whaaattt

Alecta
10-10-2013, 08:38 AM
Its early and I am too caffeine-less to tell if you are pulling my leg. And apparently I cant edit my posts in R&F either.

70mr from gear + gmr = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
85mr from gear + resist magic = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
101mr from gear + shield of magi = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
225mr from gear + no mr buffs + malosi + tashanian = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots

BrobbVZ
10-10-2013, 08:41 AM
Thanks, makes much more sense, I am probably more tired than you! :)

Smedy
10-10-2013, 09:35 AM
Its early and I am too caffeine-less to tell if you are pulling my leg. And apparently I cant edit my posts in R&F either.

70mr from gear + gmr = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
85mr from gear + resist magic = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
101mr from gear + shield of magi = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
225mr from gear + no mr buffs + malosi + tashanian = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots

So simplyfied, if you have 125mr you get 98% resist vs root, period

Retti_
10-10-2013, 12:35 PM
Isnt gmr more mr points than resist magic

Colgate
10-10-2013, 12:37 PM
that's what he said though

Retti_
10-10-2013, 12:38 PM
O ya u right

Something'Witty
10-10-2013, 02:03 PM
Its early and I am too caffeine-less to tell if you are pulling my leg. And apparently I cant edit my posts in R&F either.

70mr from gear + gmr = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
85mr from gear + resist magic = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
101mr from gear + shield of magi = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
225mr from gear + no mr buffs + malosi + tashanian = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots

So currently on R99, there is essentially a soft cap of 125 on all resists or just MR?

Or was this just a hypothetical scenario?

Alecta
10-10-2013, 02:23 PM
Just roots hit 98% resist at 125 MR, as of this latest patch.

All other spells are unchanged right now.

Something'Witty
10-10-2013, 02:36 PM
Just roots hit 98% resist at 125 MR, as of this latest patch.

All other spells are unchanged right now.

Coolio, I over extrapolated. Thanks for the clarification.

Vile
10-10-2013, 02:37 PM
So simplyfied, if you have 125mr you get 98% resist vs root, period

haha yes.

diplo
10-11-2013, 02:16 PM
Just roots hit 98% resist at 125 MR, as of this latest patch.

All other spells are unchanged right now.

Does this account for earth pet root as well?

Mingo
10-11-2013, 02:37 PM
Its early and I am too caffeine-less to tell if you are pulling my leg. And apparently I cant edit my posts in R&F either.

70mr from gear + gmr = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
85mr from gear + resist magic = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
101mr from gear + shield of magi = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots
225mr from gear + no mr buffs + malosi + tashanian = 125 mr = 98% resist on roots

No, Brobb isn't pulling your leg, he was honestly confused by this formula.

Retti_
10-11-2013, 03:12 PM
Alecta: [PvP] Pet cast spells will now get the same resist modifications as player cast spells

Does this account for earth pet root as well?

Retti_
10-11-2013, 03:12 PM
Assuming yes sorry botched quotes and no edit

Something'Witty
10-11-2013, 03:14 PM
Retti, I finally watched the entire GIF you have in your sig. Hilarious!