If yellow text on pvp kills was implemented..

[nilbog]

Do you think it should display a location of where the kill took place?

I would also like to hear reasons behind the votes.


Note: This is just a poll to gauge opinions and interest; not a democratic vote.

[Rushmore]

Do you think it should display a location of where the kill took place?

I would also like to hear reasons behind the votes.

I voted YES! This is a PVP server. People should know where the fight is! If they choose to PVP. They can also see what zone to avoid if they wanted to do so as well.

[Malevz]

No option to vote no on yellow text?

[Combobreaker]

it needs to because then we can help the less fortunate!

[nego1620]

Displaying the location means easier access to good, wholesome PvP. It will become increasingly more important as the world opens up with Kunark.

I can't see why anyone would be against it, unless they wanted to camp 24/7 without any threat of PvP.

[Ripcord]

yes. crank up the action before i fall asleep looking for fights

[nilbog]

No option to vote no on yellow text?

The poll is *if* yellow text was implemented.. :)

[i8degrees]

No; keepin' the necessity of communication to one another alive! More enjoyable / fun experience like that.

[JenJen]

yes to see where the action is

[Mornin3.0]

*whine* I voted yes it should display location.. The only reason the normal(not banned from blue99 for exploiting or some other reason) person would play on this server is for the aspect of PvP. What better way to promote pvp on the pvp server than to display when someone is killed and where they were killed. If you do not want pvp or the threat of pvp while you play EQ then go play blue99. *whine*

[nilbog]

Edited out your whining. Don't troll my thread.

[Mornin3.0]

No option to vote no on yellow text?

http://gradpreneurmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/no-whining.jpg

*not a troll

[Tr0llb0rn]

Voted no, because that takes opportunity for community interaction out of the mix. Makes reputation count for less.

Less automation, less game-on-rails, the better. There should be a place for comunication and a role for scouts, on a red server.

[Giovanni]

Voted yes, it helps new players know where the action is. Some sort of zone control maps would add a lot to the server as well.


http://i45.tinypic.com/2q158as.jpg

[Snufz]

Voted no, because that takes opportunity for community interaction out of the mix. Makes reputation count for less.

Less automation, less game-on-rails, the better. There should be a place for comunication and a role for scouts, on a red server.

Its hilarious how some of you don't realize the server has a low population.

These hopes and dreams of a grand network of scouts, spies, reports, and information is tough to come by with a few dozen players spread out over 100 zones.

[SamwiseBanned]

yes for location, more pvp = good

[SearyxTZ]

yes to see where the action is

This.

Either implementation would be a positive, though.



also


Voted yes, it helps new players know where the action is. Some sort of zone control maps would add a lot to the server as well.


Agreed for a teams setup, but this does not make sense for FFA ruleset.

Nildog, I'd encourage you to look at any incentive to get a few zones (out of the 100'ish) up to "classic" population/activity (say 15+ people in them).

LoZ has hotzones which I think works very well. For Kunark I think this is really easy. I would personally rotate between the 3 good high level Kunark dungeons (Seb, KC, Chardok) and have Lake of Ill Omen on hotzone status permanently (solid mid level zone, very fun to pvp in). Two is the right number for this -- one high level, one mid level.

Don't have to force people into them + a huge exp bonus isn't necessary, either. Just the highlight/callout alone would be enough.

[Kilbur]

If you going to have global ooc you might as well show the location of the kill.. Someone can easily know what zone your located in and use global ooc to tell others.

[Rushmore]

If you going to have global ooc you might as well show the location of the kill.. Someone can easily know what zone your located in and use global ooc to tell others.

to add to this a new player might not have the luxury of having friends tell him where people are. So help a noob out!!!!

Kilbur you coming back or just playing on alts right now?

[Zereh]

Voted no on locations in yt; if you want specifics, use /ooc.

[heartbrand]

This is one of those non-issues. The fear of location on yt is severely overstated and any trial of this feature will show it to be much ado about nothing. If anything it will help stop so called "griefing" since if someone is being bind camped afk we know where it's going down.

[Rushmore]

This is one of those non-issues. The fear of location on yt is severely overstated and any trial of this feature will show it to be much ado about nothing. If anything it will help stop so called "griefing" since if someone is being bind camped afk we know where it's going down.

This

[Wamorn]

Voted yes to location. Helps promote pvp and on a PVP SERVER that is good.

[Supaskillz]

I sorta think this promotes the wrong kind of pvp. It tells you where people are who just finished a fight and where people are headed on a cr. if you get attacked and want to ask friends to come back you up, you do not need yt. If my group wins a battle for a camp now all the griefers want to come, maybe we accepted a lns from losers but with yt they hardly can go get the corpses safely.

Pvp should be able networks of friends and allies as much as it is about enemies, yt with location promotes Ffa arena type action. Go play a fps for this imo

[Tr0llb0rn]

I sorta think this promotes the wrong kind of pvp. It tells you where people are who just finished a fight and where people are headed on a cr.


This right here. It tells loathsome griefer types exactly where so-and-so will be having to get back to naked for a corpse run.

I can still happen, but at least make those types work for that kinda info. Not just lurk about watching YT spam to see who they can ambush on naked CR.

Very good point.

[Tycko]

it will help stop so called "griefing" since if someone is being bind camped afk we know where it's going down.

I think this is actually a good point. But I feel YT w/out location would solve this also. So it does not require location to have this benefit.

[i8degrees]

It's a non-issue because it is already handled perfectly well by the existing system: I think we humans will do a better job of location shouts than an automated one. Do not think this will change the fact that we are going to chatter about those things with or without.

Many good points on both sides -- it has me reconsidering my own stance -- but ultimately perhaps only by trying it would you ever know.

My playing style preference is accepting the fear of the unknown. Harsh extremes and all else that comes with the act of war: players killing other players.

I shall leave you with this:

"In death, all things appear fair." (Forget whom the author is..)

[Tradesonred]

I voted no.

If /ooc goes at some point, then the argument that you can still broadcast location goes.

I understand that it might help foster pvp, but also it will also let you make kills you wouldnt without it. Like say you gank someone in crushbone, someone is right outside, sees the loc goes in and finishes you while you are low on health.

I think theres better ways of fostering pvp, such as halloween 2001 type scripted events and hotzones which would attract pvp alot. Not to mention removing xp loss in pvp.

I also think it advantages gank squads/twinks over casuals and help them in griefing (Oh hey, heres that noob getting killed in YT who talked shit to me the other day cuz my twink kept killing him over and over. Lets log in and kill him over and over again, lol). I like to see as little as possible of stuff that advantages numbers and twinks.

With that being said, i dont think its that big of an issue, i wouldnt try to get it changed solid if it passed, like i did for xp loss in pvp.

[aborted]

Reasons for locations:

Considering how big the world is with kunark added and how many people are playing is one good reason to add yellow text and display the location.

It adds a level of pvp to the game that people want, once you pk someone you will need to stay on the move, camping places unless your really good will be impossible if people hate you.

It will keep griefers in check, anti pkers will beable to go around the world looking for people pking others.

It will turn into a mini game of king of the hill in alot of places which sounds awesome.

Reasons for no locations:

Bragging rights

Stealthy kills (if you want a spawn and kill the person at the spawn, people won't know)

IMO

Pking needs to be kept in check, randomly killing people will bring more pvp for the people doing it and will allow people to keep griefing down if they want too. I voted for yellow text with locations.

[notCwall]

most of the reasons expressed by those voting for no location is simply theorycrafting bullshit that has never been complained about in any iteration of a pvp server where location was announced in yellow text

[Dullah]

Posting polls on this forum will only cater to the trolls, the very vocal minority, most of which don't even play.

Please remember this when implementing YT Nilbog.

[Giovanni]

Looking at the list of names, I don't think that you can say that the majority of those don't even play.

Yellow text with location has been tried and tested on prior servers with great success. As previously stated, it helps solve corpse camping as well without gm interference.

[klant]

so tired of hearing people bitch about YT. wtf wouldn't you want YT, oh wait maybe so the rest of the server can't see how horrible nihilum are at pvp. or maybe so destin can't be found hiding out at the bottom of OOT.

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo254/aceholethug/EQ000014.jpg

[Smedy]

I voted for displaying the location.

Reason would be i think it adds to the game, it gives everyone a heads up where the pvp is which in turn attracts more pvp.

Also it could work as an "anti grief" when someone is getting corpse camped it will be spotted with ease and you can go aid someone if you feel like it.

I don't think it gives away to much information, anyone who attempts to "sneak raid" on a pvp server isn't really embracing the fact why we play on the red server to begin with.

A+ to see yellow actually becoming a real discussion, high hopes for kunark!

[Kevynne]

Voted yes, it helps new players know where the action is. Some sort of zone control maps would add a lot to the server as well.


http://i45.tinypic.com/2q158as.jpg

i think that would be pretty sweet imo the maps could help draw others to pvp in zones controlled by an opposing faction

[Kevynne]

Nildog, I'd encourage you to look at any incentive to get a few zones (out of the 100'ish) up to "classic" population/activity (say 15+ people in them).

LoZ has hotzones which I think works very well. For Kunark I think this is really easy. I would personally rotate between the 3 good high level Kunark dungeons (Seb, KC, Chardok) and have Lake of Ill Omen on hotzone status permanently (solid mid level zone, very fun to pvp in). Two is the right number for this -- one high level, one mid level.

Don't have to force people into them + a huge exp bonus isn't necessary, either. Just the highlight/callout alone would be enough.


the HZ would be a hgue plus to the community imo as well as the LOIO idea, that would drag more newbs to explore kunark content as well!

[JayDee]

It's a nice addition for people who like it and a big deterrent for people who don't.

I think it's safer to add YT without locations but however it comes is fine with me and this news has convinced me to play. I just wish it came much earlier.

[Dullah]

so tired of hearing people bitch about YT. wtf wouldn't you want YT, oh wait maybe so the rest of the server can't see how horrible nihilum are at pvp. or maybe so destin can't be found hiding out at the bottom of OOT.

Lol, hiding.

He mad cause they couldn't catch me, both their mana drained from all the nukes they had to heal thru while kiting me around.

[Dullah]

Those in favor of YT locations:

aborted, Amesplayerofgames, Barkingturtle, Bhubbles, bl0rg, Combobreaker, Dacuk, Danien, dankzilla, EQtrader, Feniggles, Gadgetcopter, Giovanni, goalie, Greegon, heartbrand, Hovis, Hughman, JenJen, Kevynne, klant, Kraftwerk, Littlegyno 9.0, Loli Pops, Mornin3.0, nego1620, nerfed, notCwall, pointyhat, Ripcord, Rushmore, SamwiseBanned, SearyxTZ, Sekket, Shrubwise, Smedy, Snufz, Taboo, Tuffpuppy, Walmilt, Wamorn, watbab, Whit, Zallar, Znif

A fraction of these people play here, and maybe 2 on the list played prior to a week ago.

Nuff said, no locations.

Thanks

[Maybach 2.0]

+ Location. High end PvP will al occur in the chokehold zones anyways, location helps the lower to mid range players know where theres PvPs at since theres gonna be 150 people and 250 zones

[Dullah]

I love how the number of zones goes up every time someone posts about PvP.

250 zones? Try less than half of that, with 30 or so of those being city zones.

Everyone knows where players will be without location broadcasts. If you don't, look up items in the wiki and you can know where people will be.

[Mornin3.0]

YT prevents CCing


http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii600/morninx/LesliecorpseCamp.jpg

Atleast in this case the victim was some nihilum two boxing scum...

[SearyxTZ]

http://i.imgur.com/rT0Jn.gif

[tehruoh]

lol searyx

[BigTB]

This right here. It tells loathsome griefer types exactly where so-and-so will be having to get back to naked for a corpse run.

I can still happen, but at least make those types work for that kinda info. Not just lurk about watching YT spam to see who they can ambush on naked CR.

Very good point.

This is so sad and desperate,

I voted yes

for all the reasons already mentioned

it helps people find pvp if they want it

helps people avoid if they don't

and it shows that the server is alive and well, gives newbs and solo's hope
that there is somthing to work towards

helps with immersion pras chubs!

[Labanen]

No option to vote no on yellow text?That...

[BigTB]

That...

please dont troll gm's thread

[gnomishfirework]

no location. why should that information be handed to people? if thats the situation, just force non-anon. This is kind of ridiculous. Theres only so many places high levels will be. Kunark will make it easier, as you know where people are going to be leveling and camping gear. Kunark is an easier place to run around.

[Dullah]

no location. why should that information be handed to people? if thats the situation, just force non-anon. This is kind of ridiculous. Theres only so many places high levels will be. Kunark will make it easier, as you know where people are going to be leveling and camping gear. Kunark is an easier place to run around.
From the midst of madness comes a voice of reason...

[aborted]

I started playing again, just not on aborted.

[mitic]

nonpaying customers have to be acomodated

Yellow Text now or ill cancle my subscibtion

[Dullah]

nonplaying customers have to be acomodated

Yellow Text now or ill cancle my subscibtion

Fixt

[Tradesonred]

Fixt

He plays a wizard, grouped with him on my druid last night in Mistmoore.

[Giovanni]

Those in favor of YT locations:

A fraction of these people play here, and maybe 2 on the list played prior to a week ago.

Nuff said, no locations.

Thanks

Two weeks ago /who all was less than 20, and all of them were in Nihilum enjoying their personal blue server. Exp bonus + yellow text and all of a sudden pvpers start showing up again.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Two weeks ago /who all was less than 20, and all of them were in Nihilum enjoying their personal blue server. KUBARK and all of a sudden pvpers start showing up again.


Fixed for you, get it right.

[Porkchop]

This is one of those non-issues. The fear of location on yt is severely overstated and any trial of this feature will show it to be much ado about nothing. If anything it will help stop so called "griefing" since if someone is being bind camped afk we know where it's going down.

Pretty much how I feel. I think location in yellow text will be beneficial to the server.

[Dullah]

He plays a wizard, grouped with him on my druid last night in Mistmoore.
It was a generalization genius.

[Swampfeet]

YT please, we saw how not having it worked (9 players online and such)

[Nirgon]

Leader board with link on front page


(And item loot)

[BigSlip]

I just cant lol any harder at these fools that dont want location..



Voted yes, no other reasons that havent been stated before.


Also, you con yt loc'ers havent given very good of a reason why you dont like loc....

I dont even think theres more than one or two out of about 200 nihil that have played on another box w yt.


So whats the problem?

[HippoNipple]

Posting polls on this forum will only cater to the trolls, the very vocal minority, most of which don't even play.

Please remember this when implementing YT Nilbog.

Calls this poll for the trolls.

More people respond to poll then log onto the server at any given time.

[HippoNipple]

I love how the number of zones goes up every time someone posts about PvP.

250 zones? Try less than half of that, with 30 or so of those being city zones.

Everyone knows where players will be without location broadcasts. If you don't, look up items in the wiki and you can know where people will be.

Your argument against yellow text is that the information is already known. If the information is already known then why does it matter if YT is implemented?

The fact is the information isn't known. Having it known will create more pvp. You don't want pvp. You are against it.

YT showing location, guild affiliation and name of the winner/loser in a pvp combat is the way to go. It brings a server together and shows where the action is. It draws criminals and the white knights. It finally brings some fun to pvp on a server that only has negatives to pvp.

[Ticklemered]

There was some fun pvp between nihilum and VV yesterday, even Tombom was cordial for about an hour afterwords.

[SearyxTZ]

Posting polls on this forum will only cater to the trolls, the very vocal minority, most of which don't even play.

Please remember this when implementing YT Nilbog.

The vocal minority == you and Trollborn

You guys both post a ton and usually against the grain of what everyone else is supporting. The "OOC problem" thread is a good example of this.


Also if I was running this box and I wanted to take a stab at pumping life back into it, I probably wouldn't listen to the dudes who were saying everything was cool no change necessary when there were 20 people online.

[Dullah]

The change that brought back 100 players was the content we'd been recommending for 5 months, not a single other change suggested by the trolls since the server released.

Not exp increase, ooc, improved resists or anything else brought people back, yet soon as Kunark is announced the population went up by a factor of 10.

Nuff said really, but the fact that the people posting on these forums don't represent those who play, nor do they even intend to play. They are just posting because they don't like classic EQ, and/or don't like the people playing here that ran them off the box.

[SamwiseBanned]

The change that brought back 100 players was the content we'd been recommending for 5 months, not a single other change suggested by the trolls since the server released.

Not exp increase, ooc, improved resists or anything else brought people back, yet soon as Kunark is announced the population went up by a factor of 10.

Nuff said really, but the fact that the people posting on these forums don't represent those who play, nor do they even intend to play. They are just posting because they don't like classic EQ, and/or don't like the people playing here that ran them off the box.

no denying Kunark brought a lot of people back but I for one came back for global ooc. to say global ooc and xp bonus didnt bring people back is stupid on your part and shows that you have not a clue what is going on with the server. stay mad.

[Smedy]

no denying Kunark brought a lot of people back but I for one came back for global ooc. to say global ooc and xp bonus didnt bring people back is stupid on your part and shows that you have not a clue what is going on with the server. stay mad.

Kunark is only bringing people back cuz there's word on the streets that the staff is actually looking at implementing yellow text and we already got global ooc.

This is the main reason, kunark has some to do with it, but without yellow and global ooc eq on a 200 box pop is shitty, when you're looking to pvp and not to pve.

[SamwiseBanned]

the lord has spoken /thread

[Dullah]

Statistically speaking, after exp bonus went in, the server pop at no time in the following 2 weeks rose by more than 15 people.

Those other things may prove helpful as the pop increases (from content), but none of those suggestions brought players back in general. To say otherwise is just being dishonest with yourself... and mad.

[SamwiseBanned]

i just said global ooc brought me back way before xp bonus and kunark announced. Only a sith deals in absolutes.

[SearyxTZ]

Not exp increase, ooc, improved resists or anything else brought people back

http://i49.tinypic.com/rrjb01.jpg


you really think this?

Kunark isn't even out yet. Most people are coming back because nildog turned on the exp bonus + that number would be much smaller if we had zone OOC (lol nobody) and root landing 50% of the time while mage earth pets solo melees.

I'm probably rolling a lizard on Friday and I can tell you for sure that I would not do it if that exp boost wasn't on.

[Tr0llb0rn]

XP bonus happened a month or so ago too, pop did not change.

This pop explosion is due to ONE thing and ONE thing only:

Kubark

Content is King

[heartbrand]

Being in VV, the guild with the largest amount of the new players, and having spent a great deal of time with them helping them with items, coin, levels, I can tell you confidently they are here not because of Kunark but because of 1) exp bonus, 2) boredom with blue, 3) a guild that's goal is to help newcomers to the server

[Tycko]

Only a sith deals in absolutes.


Love it

[Arillious]

In an ideal world, location wouldn't be needed. On a box with 100 people average prime time, it is needed. Think how much worse it'll get for Kubark.

[SearyxTZ]

Content is King


Yeah I forgot about the massive influx of players when Plane of Sky was released. Clearly PvE raid content is the primary driving force behind pvp servers.

[Coan]

Sky - Kunark: Apples - Oranges

[BigSlip]

Oh wow only a few more votes untill yt+loc doubles the vote count of the fellows who are scared of loc.


Cmon nilbog put that loc in there. Give this place the only thing it needs.

[BigTB]

Oh wow only a few more votes untill yt+loc doubles the vote count of the fellows who are scared of loc.


Cmon nilbog put that loc in there. Give this place the only thing it needs.

[Dullah]

Those who don't want locs represent 2 or 3x as many active players as those who want locs...

[BigSlip]

Those who don't want locs represent 2 or 3x as many active players as those who want locs...

Stop trolling.


Stop being scared little girl.

[heartbrand]

Those who don't want locs represent 2 or 3x as many active players as those who want locs...

I looked at the names and this is complete bullshit. Par for the course though with you.

[SamwiseBanned]

supaskill and mindsculptor both voted no yet they are the same person. Looks like this thing is rigged.

[Dullah]

I looked at the names and this is complete bullshit. Par for the course though with you.
Claims complete bullshit, can't state his case with all the evidence in his hands...

aborted, Adachi, Amesplayerofgames, Andis, AppleJacks, Arillious, Barkingturtle, Bhubbles, BigSlip, BigTB, bl0rg, Chett, chuckina22, coki, Combobreaker, Cwall, Dacuk, Daero, Danien, dankzilla, Doors, EQtrader, eskimospy, Feniggles, Gadgetcopter, gambler33, Giovanni, gloinz, goalie, Greegon, heartbrand, HippoNipple, Hovis, Hughman, JenJen, Kevynne, klant, Kraftwerk, Kringe, ledbedder, Leftoverture, Littlegyno 9.0, Loli Pops, Maybach 2.0, mitic, Mornin3.0, Mountaineer, nego1620, nerfed, notCwall, pointyhat, Porkchop, Purdee, Ripcord, Rushmore, Samrothstein, SamwiseBanned, SearyxTZ, Sekket, Shrubwise, Smedy, Snufz, Supreme, Taboo, Toehammer, Traderjoes, Trayeldor, Tuffpuppy, UrsusMajor, Walmilt, Wamorn, watbab, Whit, Zallar, Znif

Go for it. Prove me wrong.

[Cwall]

This message is hidden because Dullah is on your ignore list.

[BigTB]

supaskill and mindsculptor both voted no yet they are the same person. Looks like this thing is rigged.

SAM FIND THE TRUTH!

[Tradesonred]

SAM FIND THE TRUTH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CquMO3vJvo

[BigTB]

FUCK YESSSS I FUCKING LOVE MAGNUM

[BigSlip]

Claims complete bullshit, can't state his case with all the evidence in his hands...

aborted, Adachi, Amesplayerofgames, Andis, AppleJacks, Arillious, Barkingturtle, Bhubbles, BigSlip, BigTB, bl0rg, Chett, chuckina22, coki, Combobreaker, Cwall, Dacuk, Daero, Danien, dankzilla, Doors, EQtrader, eskimospy, Feniggles, Gadgetcopter, gambler33, Giovanni, gloinz, goalie, Greegon, heartbrand, HippoNipple, Hovis, Hughman, JenJen, Kevynne, klant, Kraftwerk, Kringe, ledbedder, Leftoverture, Littlegyno 9.0, Loli Pops, Maybach 2.0, mitic, Mornin3.0, Mountaineer, nego1620, nerfed, notCwall, pointyhat, Porkchop, Purdee, Ripcord, Rushmore, Samrothstein, SamwiseBanned, SearyxTZ, Sekket, Shrubwise, Smedy, Snufz, Supreme, Taboo, Toehammer, Traderjoes, Trayeldor, Tuffpuppy, UrsusMajor, Walmilt, Wamorn, watbab, Whit, Zallar, Znif

Go for it. Prove me wrong.



So you know all these people? Break them down for me please, im not sure i know every single persons forum tag in correlation with thier in game character.

Blithering idiot ftw

[Tradesonred]

So you know all these people? Break them down for me please, im not sure i know every single persons forum tag in correlation with thier in game character.

Blithering idiot ftw

Hes right Dullah, you are making claims that this list contains a majority of players that do not play on the server.

The burden is on you to prove it, to link each forum name with the person that plays it and evidence that he does not play anymore/has never played on red.

I know personally that close to half of the persons on that list have logged in the last week.

[Zereh]

Don't feed the trolls the fight locations, please. If people want to know where the fights are let them use their mouths in /ooc.

[Dullah]

Hes right Dullah, you are making claims that this list contains a majority of players that do not play on the server.

The burden is on you to prove it, to link each forum name with the person that plays it and evidence that he does not play anymore/has never played on red.

I know personally that close to half of the persons on that list have logged in the last week.

I know who they are, and obviously you do too. Keep trollin tho.

People who don't play here who only come on this forum to whine about how classic EQ sucks and suggest ways to make it less classic don't qualify as legit opinions.

[Tradesonred]

I know who they are, and obviously you do too. Keep trollin tho.

People who don't play here who only come on this forum to whine about how classic EQ sucks and suggest ways to make it less classic don't qualify as legit opinions.

Again, you repeat the same conclusion without offering any kind of proof.

Who doesnt play here and only comes on this forum to whine?

List the names.

[Cwall]

Don't feed the trolls the fight locations, please.

what the fuck does this even mean? that someone who wants to know where pvp is happening is a troll?

[BigSlip]

what the fuck does this even mean? that someone who wants to know where pvp is happening is a troll?


lolololol




u guys can go be a bunch of girls with zereh and pray they dont give loc.

[Dullah]

Curbstomping you and all your buddies for 2 weeks and you think we're worried about locs.

[BigSlip]

All 20 of you sure did stomp all 6 of us this week.


Lol grumpy ass dude.

[BigSlip]

Are you guys getting madder and madder as the votes lean more in loc's favor?

77 + loc
44 do not want loc


Would your active guild of 45 like it best if everyone just left again? I wont be sticking around too long more than likely without it.

[astuce999]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the YT only come up once one person dies?

If so, for all the people that argue that it shows "where the action is", shouldn't you
say "where the action was"?

Unless the "action" that you are actually looking for is ganking someone at low health/mana? And even then, it is likely that the person who won would actually
leave the zone a.s.a.p. knowing other predators are on the way, leaving only the person who has no choice but to come back to get their corpse.

So if I get this correctly, all you guys really want when you say "action", is to be able to grief people on CR's without looking like you're corpse camping.

Oh, and please skip the bullshit about anti-pk's and helping others, that utopian ship sailed a long time ago, and if you really want to help someone you can always send a /tell.

[Haul]

no to yt unless it has no location display-

[BigTB]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the YT only come up once one person dies?

If so, for all the people that argue that it shows "where the action is", shouldn't you
say "where the action was"?

Unless the "action" that you are actually looking for is ganking someone at low health/mana? And even then, it is likely that the person who won would actually
leave the zone a.s.a.p. knowing other predators are on the way, leaving only the person who has no choice but to come back to get their corpse.

So if I get this correctly, all you guys really want when you say "action", is to be able to grief people on CR's without looking like you're corpse camping.

Oh, and please skip the bullshit about anti-pk's and helping others, that utopian ship sailed a long time ago, and if you really want to help someone you can always send a /tell.

you are border-line unreadable level of retard

but here it goes

you dum dum piece of poopy:

1 v 1 seldom happens

1 person goes down in a 4v6

and everyone swarms

they pick sides, choose allies, steal mobs, get pixels

thus is life in norrath and YT will make it better

[JenJen]

Big slip tellin it how it is

[astuce999]

you are border-line unreadable level of retard

but here it goes

you dum dum piece of poopy:

1 v 1 seldom happens

1 person goes down in a 4v6

and everyone swarms

they pick sides, choose allies, steal mobs, get pixels

thus is life in norrath and YT will make it better

Firstly, thank you for remaining polite, it is much appreciated and reflects accurately how many grains of salt I should take when considering your arguments.

Secondly, in the scenario you mention, 10 people are involved before any YT. If 10 people are in a zone, it isn't South Qeynos. People who aren't "border-line unreadable level of retard" like myself should be able to figure out which zones are populated and potentially already be in them when the "action" begins.

Thirdly, I guess I'm extremely lucky, since 1 v 1 seldom happens, that almost all of the pvp I've experienced on r99 has been just that 1 v 1. It also mostly happens when one party has a perceived edge, i.e. one of us is low life from a Pve encounter, and the other hopes for an easy kill. Based on this, my "dum dum piece of poopy" logic presumes that people are attracted by easy prey, and giving YT with location would give these fine upstanding gentlemen another tool to do just that.

Because of their honor, I'm sure I'm wrong and no one would ever use YT with loc to gank or grief people, but it would solely be to have epic fights where people "pick sides, choose allies, steal mobs, get pixels".

I stand corrected.

[Labanen]

Are you guys getting madder and madder as the votes lean more in loc's favor?
not really, its just a game.

But I prefer to be as close to classic as possible. I know its not completely classic the way it is, but its pretty close. Actually id be happier without YT... or globalooc for that matter. But its not making or breaking my game.

[gloinz]

not really, its just a game.

But I prefer to be as close to classic as possible. I know its not completely classic the way it is, but its pretty close. Actually id be happier without YT... or globalooc for that matter. But its not making or breaking my game.

classic isn't 1 player in every zone thus yellow text makes it more classic by letting players get closer together

[Cwall]

here is the situation, especially true since this server doesn't show you who is in another zone on /who all

group A is camping the druid rings in lavastorm
group B ports in to go to sol B, gets ambushed by group A
yellow text starts showing up that there's a big fight in lavastorm
group C has been looking for pvp(harder to find it without /who showing where people are), and then knows it's going on in lavastorm
group C ports in, more pvp happens

i have never in my entire life heard anyone complain about YT revealing location in any of the iterations of PvP boxes that had it implemented

[SearyxTZ]

classic isn't 1 player in every zone thus yellow text makes it more classic by letting players get closer together

I've said this about 500 times on these forums but some people like to just continually ignore it anyway + pretend that classic Everquest was all about playing it solo in empty zones without interacting with other players.

[Labanen]

i have never in my entire life heard anyone complain about YT revealing location in any of the iterations of PvP boxes that had it implemented Oh i hope your life is longer than eqemu.. or even the 13 years of eq. ;-)

On a more serious note, most of those pvp boxes are gone now... for a number of reasons.

classic isn't 1 player in every zone thus yellow text makes it more classic by letting players get closer together since the kunark comfirmation came lots of people are found in the good xp zones. Sure you can still find plenty of empty zones, but only if you wish to or if you play insane hours where pop can still drop to below 40.

[Cwall]

yes those pvp boxes are gone for a number of reasons unrelated to YT or its disclosure of location

[heartbrand]

Oh i hope your life is longer than eqemu.. or even the 13 years of eq. ;-)

On a more serious note, most of those pvp boxes are gone now... for a number of reasons.

since the EXP BONUS comfirmation came lots of people are found in the good xp zones. Sure you can still find plenty of empty zones, but only if you wish to or if you play insane hours where pop can still drop to below 40.

fyp

[SearyxTZ]

since the kunark comfirmation came lots of people are found in the good xp zones. Sure you can still find plenty of empty zones, but only if you wish to or if you play insane hours where pop can still drop to below 40.

His point was that anything driving players towards the same zones is going to have a positive effect on a server that currently has less players than # of total zones.

Just calling out "the good xp zones" (say KC, Seb, Dreadlands, Lake) would be cool.

YT (with location) and glocal OOC both indirectly support that very simple concept of getting players to interact with eachother in a "classic" way when you're working with no more than ~15% of the player volume of what the live servers had.

[Nirgon]

yes those pvp boxes are gone for a number of reasons unrelated to YT or its disclosure of location

Like fucked up resist / hit mechanics, important PvE stuff broken... dupes / cheating... certain other unmentionables.... hmm!

[Dullah]

Oh i hope your life is longer than eqemu.. or even the 13 years of eq. ;-)

On a more serious note, most of those pvp boxes are gone now... for a number of reasons.

since the kunark comfirmation came lots of people are found in the good xp zones. Sure you can still find plenty of empty zones, but only if you wish to or if you play insane hours where pop can still drop to below 40.

Was definitely kunark. Even before the exp bonus, pop was 100 players. Since exp bonus, its gone up what, maybe 10 players?

"We believed from the very beginning that 'Content is King'." - Brad McQuaid, the Designer of EverQuest.

[BigSlip]

Big slip tellin it how it is



lol @ this song reminds me of you


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB9au3UBSqI

[Zereh]

Interesting that the majority of the people in here salivating over locations in YT are the people who will be long gone (again) once the easy mode XP disappears.

[Nirgon]

Well when they're gone there won't be any YT so why do you care, maybe some will stick around?

Leader board > YT

And that's from every imaginable angle of looking at it. Site gets more hits, it quiets much of the "we own you" or not shit.

[Tycko]

I think you forget how immature the YT advocates are Nirgon. Majority of players I see advocating YT act like 5 year olds. Catering to a crowd of instant gratification entertainment consumers doesn't seem in line with "classic eq" or this project. The point Zarah makes is that the biggest advocates for change are the ones who won't stay long after its implemented. Which I agree with.

[Tradesonred]

Was definitely kunark. Even before the exp bonus, pop was 100 players. Since exp bonus, its gone up what, maybe 10 players?

"We believed from the very beginning that 'Content is King'." - Brad McQuaid, the Designer of EverQuest.

its cuz they were anticipating the xp bonus... yes server was dead not long ago... can we stop with the rainbows and puppy dogs shit? Those rose tinted glasses arent gonna help the server grow.

[Wamorn]

Was definitely kunark. Even before the exp bonus, pop was 100 players. Since exp bonus, its gone up what, maybe 10 players?

I was watching the server numbers and only saw around 70ish after kunark was announced. Exp bonus came and it shot up to about 105ish at very peak times.

Wasn't just kunark confirmation sir.

Either way, whichever box gets velious through first will probably win the majority of the population anyways.

[Sirken]

voted yes on locations.

[SamwiseBanned]

voted yes on locations.

man knows things.

[Nirgon]

Don't worry "the specific people" you don't want back aren't coming back here.

Try to vote with an open mind.. personally I think this kill logger should have location in it, maybe how many people were grouped in zone with them too on both the killing and the kill receiving party.

[BigSlip]

I think you forget how immature the YT advocates are Nirgon. Majority of players I see advocating YT act like 5 year olds. Catering to a crowd of instant gratification entertainment consumers doesn't seem in line with "classic eq" or this project. The point Zarah makes is that the biggest advocates for change are the ones who won't stay long after its implemented. Which I agree with.



Hey bro, scroll up. See that vote count?


Whos immature? You got here what, a month ago? How would you know whats good for the server? You dont. Thats for damn sure.

[SamwiseBanned]

Nirgon we are in need of wizards. Forget about the past, this box is as good as its gonna get for now.

http://i.imgur.com/K53E7.jpg

we are undergeared, under leveled, and undermanned but that is how a revolution starts. Cmon former bros come back.

[BigTB]

voted yes on locations.

sirken has always known the ways

[BigSlip]

Yes, it should display a location


aborted, Adachi, Amesplayerofgames, Andis, AppleJacks, Arillious, Barkingturtle, Bhubbles, BigSlip, BigTB, bl0rg, Casey II, Chett, chuckina22, coki, Combobreaker, Cwall, Dacbane, Dacuk, Daero, Danien, dankzilla, Doors, Durk, EQtrader, eskimospy, Feniggles, Gadgetcopter, gambler33, Giovanni, gloinz, goalie, Greegon, heartbrand, HippoNipple, Hovis, Hughman, JenJen, Kevynne, klant, Kraftwerk, Kringe, ledbedder, Leftoverture, Littlegyno 9.0, Loli Pops, Maybach 2.0, mellowyellow, mitic, Mornin3.0, Mountaineer, nabsev, nego1620, nerfed, notCwall, pointyhat, Porkchop, Purdee, Ripcord, runlvlzero, Rushmore, Samrothstein, SamwiseBanned, SearyxTZ, Sekket, Shannacore, Shrubwise, Sirken, Smedy, Snufz, Supreme, Swampfeet, Taboo, Toehammer, Traderjoes, Trayeldor, Tuffpuppy, UrsusMajor, Walmilt, Wamorn, watbab, Whit, wingman, Zallar, Znif

85 64.39%

No, it should not display a location

Advisor, Akim, astuce999, azo313, bamzal, bollo, Cancerface, Cars, Coan, Dullah, eqaddict, Faywind, Fryden Goldenbeard, gnomishfirework, Gokuu, gprater, Haul, i8degrees, jeffd, jjgerman, karsten, Labanen, Lazortag, Litharack_Necro, mindsculptor, mostbitter, Nirgon, Nizzarr, Ordaga, Palemoon, Phatso, psyops, rachid1984, Renian, Supaskillz, tefog, tehruoh, ThadCastle, Ticklemered, Tr0llb0rn, Tradesonred, Tycko, Urbanzkopf, Vayder, Vile, Wumbo, Zereh
47 35.61



Blue loses...

[Ebonchi]

PvP server; someone PvPs people want to know where the action is. I mean hell, everyone is already anonymous.

[Swampfeet]

Bahamut spreading lies in /ooc, sick of these games can we get YT for dat evidence.

[Rushmore]

Yes, it should display a location


aborted, Adachi, Amesplayerofgames, Andis, AppleJacks, Arillious, Barkingturtle, Bhubbles, BigSlip, BigTB, bl0rg, Casey II, Chett, chuckina22, coki, Combobreaker, Cwall, Dacbane, Dacuk, Daero, Danien, dankzilla, Doors, Durk, EQtrader, eskimospy, Feniggles, Gadgetcopter, gambler33, Giovanni, gloinz, goalie, Greegon, heartbrand, HippoNipple, Hovis, Hughman, JenJen, Kevynne, klant, Kraftwerk, Kringe, ledbedder, Leftoverture, Littlegyno 9.0, Loli Pops, Maybach 2.0, mellowyellow, mitic, Mornin3.0, Mountaineer, nabsev, nego1620, nerfed, notCwall, pointyhat, Porkchop, Purdee, Ripcord, runlvlzero, Rushmore, Samrothstein, SamwiseBanned, SearyxTZ, Sekket, Shannacore, Shrubwise, Sirken, Smedy, Snufz, Supreme, Swampfeet, Taboo, Toehammer, Traderjoes, Trayeldor, Tuffpuppy, UrsusMajor, Walmilt, Wamorn, watbab, Whit, wingman, Zallar, Znif

85 64.39%

No, it should not display a location

Advisor, Akim, astuce999, azo313, bamzal, bollo, Cancerface, Cars, Coan, Dullah, eqaddict, Faywind, Fryden Goldenbeard, gnomishfirework, Gokuu, gprater, Haul, i8degrees, jeffd, jjgerman, karsten, Labanen, Lazortag, Litharack_Necro, mindsculptor, mostbitter, Nirgon, Nizzarr, Ordaga, Palemoon, Phatso, psyops, rachid1984, Renian, Supaskillz, tefog, tehruoh, ThadCastle, Ticklemered, Tr0llb0rn, Tradesonred, Tycko, Urbanzkopf, Vayder, Vile, Wumbo, Zereh
47 35.61



Blue loses...

[Smedy]

cancerface on the blue side, not surprised

my fag-o-meter always hit the roof around that guy. I saw through the hard shit talking "tough guy" exterior and detected a non-alpha male status when his name constantly popped up on the wrong side of the yellow text.

[Kevynne]

Yes, it should display a location


aborted, Adachi, Amesplayerofgames, Andis, AppleJacks, Arillious, Barkingturtle, Bhubbles, BigSlip, BigTB, bl0rg, Casey II, Chett, chuckina22, coki, Combobreaker, Cwall, Dacbane, Dacuk, Daero, Danien, dankzilla, Doors, Durk, EQtrader, eskimospy, Feniggles, Gadgetcopter, gambler33, Giovanni, gloinz, goalie, Greegon, heartbrand, HippoNipple, Hovis, Hughman, JenJen, Kevynne, klant, Kraftwerk, Kringe, ledbedder, Leftoverture, Littlegyno 9.0, Loli Pops, Maybach 2.0, mellowyellow, mitic, Mornin3.0, Mountaineer, nabsev, nego1620, nerfed, notCwall, pointyhat, Porkchop, Purdee, Ripcord, runlvlzero, Rushmore, Samrothstein, SamwiseBanned, SearyxTZ, Sekket, Shannacore, Shrubwise, Sirken, Smedy, Snufz, Supreme, Swampfeet, Taboo, Toehammer, Traderjoes, Trayeldor, Tuffpuppy, UrsusMajor, Walmilt, Wamorn, watbab, Whit, wingman, Zallar, Znif

85 64.39%

No, it should not display a location

Advisor, Akim, astuce999, azo313, bamzal, bollo, Cancerface, Cars, Coan, Dullah, eqaddict, Faywind, Fryden Goldenbeard, gnomishfirework, Gokuu, gprater, Haul, i8degrees, jeffd, jjgerman, karsten, Labanen, Lazortag, Litharack_Necro, mindsculptor, mostbitter, Nirgon, Nizzarr, Ordaga, Palemoon, Phatso, psyops, rachid1984, Renian, Supaskillz, tefog, tehruoh, ThadCastle, Ticklemered, Tr0llb0rn, Tradesonred, Tycko, Urbanzkopf, Vayder, Vile, Wumbo, Zereh
47 35.61



Blue loses...
i think it should be implemented because on TZ/VZ and on Live ( SZ i think) it was there and some zones really became battlegrounds b/c of it. it made the pvp alot more fun. it was like each guild was a nation and you wer in its army, go out fight and die come back to life, rinse lather repeat. it also allowed people who wished to refrain from pvp to well. avoid it. sure some zones may end up being closed off but people can always find ways around them
these blue people i guess didnot have this experience

[runlvlzero]

That wasnt because of yellow text, that was because there were 3 factions and each had a major guild that defended at least one zone. Be it HHK, RE, Xorb, Mysti for newts, faydwer for goods, or the evil Lava-FP-Solro-Inno-Grob

Got to give evil the props for having the huge player base to defend so much, but i enjoyed being restricted to the neutral only leveling area...

Sorry couldnt handle being one of the good Flower Hippies even though I earned a place in their ranks.

*Picking a side and sticking with it was a very fun part of pvp. The community here could bring this back if they wanted to.

*Great youtube lol SearyxTZ

[SearyxTZ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJSFlMCTXE8

[El_Zorro]

And guild affiliation por favor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJSFlMCTXE8

bajajajajajaj

[Kevynne]

@runlvlzero
thats very true but sometimes one side over powes another and wabam new battlefield

[Coan]

YT should have been in on day one

[Nirgon]

Any single post update we can get about this other than just generating more pages of garbage?

Is leader board being considered?

[Nirgon]

I just posted a whole bunch. Let's see what happens with given information? Hard to give info too mabes.

[BigSlip]

Yes, it should display a location 95 65.07%
No, it should not display a location 51 34.93%

[BigSlip]

bump

[CrystalBlue]

I think yellow text revealing location would lead to too much griefing, especially people on corpse runs when someone sees them die in a certain zone and can predict (if a non binder class) how they will be getting back to their corpse.

[BigTB]

I think yellow text revealing location would lead to too much griefing, especially people on corpse runs when someone sees them die in a certain zone and can predict (if a non binder class) how they will be getting back to their corpse.

Quality CrystalBLUE post

[Mornin3.0]

I think yellow text revealing location would lead to too much griefing, especially people on corpse runs when someone sees them die in a certain zone and can predict (if a non binder class) how they will be getting back to their corpse.

Never seen someone griefed and killed on CR because of YT.......................

dumb ass excuse for no YT w/ locations...

[Kevynne]

key word in crystalblue's statement was think
maybe he/she is a bluebie at heart and this is first pvp experience in eq. who knows.
bu the keyword here is think.

[Razdeline]

Maybe try it out for a month or so. Advertise it on the website and what-not. See if it works in increasing the playerbase.

BUT, I feel that anything implemented that can be harmful to the social system within the game is a bad idea. Killing the need to socialize with others (which this would do, people currently TALK to eachother now when something is going down) is what destroyed EQ live.

[Cwall]

guarantee you YT will get people talking

[Nirgon]

See this project had the right idea:
http://uthgard.net/de/herald

It is a beloved component by player base for the player base and generates site hits on off hours.

[Cwall]

LoZ has a neat site feature that shows recent pvp kills, recent item discoveries, and you can track player pvp stats through a search function

[Rushmore]

LoZ has a neat site feature that shows recent pvp kills, recent item discoveries, and you can track player pvp stats through a search function

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Nirgon]

I remember the

"NO XP BONUS NEVER EVER" - turns out to be one of the best things that was done.

I was against it but not particularly on a crusade of any sort.

The LoZ feature would be excellent here. Maybe you guys could share some code love and everyone's better off for doing it (like I said).

[CrystalBlue]

I will admit that the xp bonus is nice, but what brought me here is Kunark comming out. I like the journey. xp bonus should be reserved for special times, like now.

[NachtMystium]

YT should have been in on day one

[heartbrand]

I will admit that the xp bonus is nice, but what brought me here is Kunark comming out. I like the journey. xp bonus should be reserved for special times, like now.

Can it be any more obvious that this guy is tr0llborn?

[jdklaw]

yup

[SamwiseBanned]

hey retti, hows life?

[jdklaw]

good i just made a vae victis movie <3 http://youtu.be/rjKenQAhEFg

[BigTB]

Love the song, decent vid, a few things.


Toxicity can be seen corpsed at start of vid soooo =/

If tombom is on I am troubled because I was at the aquarium all day playin with otters

still though fun vid tyty


ps list of numbers? cause it looks pretty zergy

[BigTB]

Love the song, decent vid, a few things.


Toxicity can be seen corpsed at start of vid soooo =/

If tombom is on I am troubled because I was at the aquarium all day playin with otters

still though fun vid tyty


ps list of numbers? cause it looks pretty zergy

OH SHIT

this fight from days ago?

yeah tox died hard, and Tombom escaped to the shelter of Ak'anon, then was rescued by sir chubs.


suck it nerds

[jdklaw]

lol