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eqdruid76
05-24-2010, 12:35 AM
I never watched it, but a friend of mine said the finale was mansuck. How about yous guys?

nilbog
05-24-2010, 12:36 AM
I liked the ending. Watching Jimmy Kimmel special for alternate endings now.

Shannacore
05-24-2010, 01:18 AM
I super liked it. Sad it's over :(

Cyrano
05-24-2010, 03:11 AM
I thought it was incredible, the show was definitely dragged out but the ending brought everything full circle.

Lost was about relationships and choice, not all the theories and numbers; just like life.

Kraftwerk
05-24-2010, 10:42 AM
The ending was so good, I'm looking forward to the essay Doc Jensen writes this week.
The ending caused me to have some trouble sleeping, I kept thinking "what if I don't get stuck on a mysterious desert island and forge intense relationships".

Overall great ending, on par with how good The Sopranos ending was.

Cormac
05-24-2010, 04:13 PM
Brilliant ending. Great series.

eqholmes
05-24-2010, 04:31 PM
I like the series alot, but the ending blew so much ass. It didnt explain shit!!!!! So they were dead from the start? the whole island ment nothing and the flashsidesways ment nothing? Were they alive on the island and then died off? Why didnt ben go at the end? was he not dead?
Why in the flashsideways do they have memories of the island when they are dead?
WAS EVERYTHING THAT LEAD UP TO THE LAST EPISODE POINTLESS? It sure seems like it. Probally going to piss alot of people off by saying it sucked, but I was a huge fan of the show and think the ending was terrible. To each there own, but I would love to hear what people think as to what that shit ment and all the questions that were left unanswered. As you can tell I am mad about the ending

nilbog
05-24-2010, 04:48 PM
I like the series alot, but the ending blew so much ass. It didnt explain shit!!!!! So they were dead from the start? the whole island ment nothing and the flashsidesways ment nothing? Were they alive on the island and then died off? Why didnt ben go at the end? was he not dead?
Why in the flashsideways do they have memories of the island when they are dead?
WAS EVERYTHING THAT LEAD UP TO THE LAST EPISODE POINTLESS? It sure seems like it. Probally going to piss alot of people off by saying it sucked, but I was a huge fan of the show and think the ending was terrible. To each there own, but I would love to hear what people think as to what that shit ment and all the questions that were left unanswered. As you can tell I am mad about the ending


SPOILERS: If you don't know what happened, and don't want to, do not read further. This is my interpretation, however.

So they were dead from the start? WAS EVERYTHING THAT LEAD UP TO THE LAST EPISODE POINTLESS?Everything that happened, happened. People died at different times. Time is a circle. The alternate/modern day life that was shown was created by them as a place to meet back up, to continue to the afterlife.

It was suggested that the most memorable point in your life, what really defines you as a person and the people around you at that time are linked together. To proceed forward, they needed everyone together that was a part of it, to go together.

If you notice towards the end, Hurley says to Ben, "You were a great #2." That suggests that time did progress past the point of Jack dying on the island. No one knows how long the Hurley/Ben reign was, or what happened afterwards.

Everyone dies eventually.

eqholmes
05-24-2010, 04:54 PM
SPOILERS: If you don't know what happened, and don't want to, do not read further. This is my interpretation, however.

Everything that happened, happened. People died at different times. Time is a circle. The alternate/modern day life that was shown was created by them as a place to meet back up, to continue to the afterlife.

It was suggested that the most memorable point in your life, what really defines you as a person and the people around you at that time are linked together. To proceed forward, they needed everyone together that was a part of it, to go together.

If you notice towards the end, Hurley says to Ben, "You were a great #2." That suggests that time did progress past the point of Jack dying on the island. No one knows how long the Hurley/Ben reign was, or what happened afterwards.

Everyone dies eventually.

See thats what I was thinking for alot of it, but timelines don't add up and stuff to me I guess, So what was Fayadays mom (the mystic woman)? She knew everything that was happening and could see both worlds, also why was everyone else in the hall at the end waiting for jack when jack died from the knife wound, but yet as you said hurley was the leader with ben for awhile.
So basically they did crash and lived on the island, and the flashsideways was the world they created so that they could all meet back up? The scenes at the end suggest that the crash killed everyone, i thought at least. God dam i have so many questions!!!!!

eqdruid76
05-24-2010, 05:20 PM
Something tells me I'm glad I never really watched the show, because what you guys are typing is really creepy. :P

I'm bad about not watching final episodes anyway. Did Ross and Rachel finally get back together? Was there really a one-armed man? Did Dr. Banner ever lean to control the raging beast within? Did the Korean War ever end? Did Tony Soprano ge

Kraftwerk
05-24-2010, 05:44 PM
Best post ending ever Eqdruid. Made me chuckle.

Aeolwind
05-24-2010, 05:47 PM
Something tells me I'm glad I never really watched the show, because what you guys are typing is really creepy. :P

I'm bad about not watching final episodes anyway. Did Ross and Rachel finally get back together? Was there really a one-armed man? Did Dr. Banner ever lean to control the raging beast within? Did the Korean War ever end? Did Tony Soprano ge

Agreed, and i see what you did there.

eqholmes
05-24-2010, 06:33 PM
I would like to hear some more interpretations, or explanations if anyone has them. I’m welcome to news ideas of what happened and what meant, I just feel like so much was left unanswered, like what about ECHO?!?! And a lot of the other people that did die on the island, if they died on the island why aren’t they there? Anna loucia???? If anyone has some ideas I would love a back and forth

Kraftwerk
05-24-2010, 06:50 PM
Do a google search for "Totally Lost". From there read anything by Doc Jensen and all shall be revealed!

OodlesOfSpoodles
05-24-2010, 09:58 PM
I found the ending to Lost just a steaming pile of christian propaganda, but that is just me. F*ck and kill whoever you want, as long as you are somewhat sorry everyone is friends in the end! Screw that, make heaven on earth people!

Touraxus
05-25-2010, 12:40 AM
The reason so many of the people who died on the island weren't in the sideways reality was because that was created by those who's most important time was spent on the island. Such as most of the main cast who made the relationships that they cherished forever.
Eko wasn't on the island long enough and didn't bond with the people who were in the sideways universe. Also his actor wanted out of the show when his character died, so he wasn't coming back.
Some who died on the island are probably still stuck there like Michael, doomed to be one of the whispers, at least until Hurley changes the rules and sets them free from an eternity of being stuck.
And Christian flat out explains that the sideways universe doesn't exist at a specific time, since he describes some of the deaths to Jack as "well before or well after your death". It was basically like a holding tank for all of them until they were able to accept they were dead and move on into the light. So no, they didn't die in the initial crash, the last shots were basically to remind everyone where it started.
At least that is how i see it. Still want to rewatch the episode to take it all in.

Kuldiin
05-25-2010, 10:18 AM
at least until Hurley changes the rules and sets them free from an eternity of being stuck.

Now Hurleys dead that isnt likely to happen ;)

Bumamgar
05-25-2010, 12:12 PM
The Hurley in the church is a future Hurley who had already spent an unspecified amount of time as the protector of the Island along with Ben Linus as his assistant. Presumably changing the rules and doing a good job of it (since Linus tells him 'By the way, you were a great #1'). In fact, in retrospect, it's pretty clear he was acting in a 'Jacob' role in the sideways universe for the last few episodes.

Remember, as Mr. Sheppard told Jack, "There is no 'now' here", meaning that the church exists independently of time. Presumably all the people in the church had lived full, rewarding lives prior to showing up to 'move on'. It's just that these events were merely hinted at, and not actually shown to the viewers.

Cyrano
05-26-2010, 03:23 AM
My take on it is that time didn't matter in the alternate timeline (to me it was what Christians consider Purgatory with the caveat of remembering one's death shows they have gone full circle as a spirit and may progress to the true afterlife) rather than just in the church. On that same vein the line by Christian, "[You created this together so you would have a place to meet and remember]," was in regards to the church itself rather than the entire planet/existence/plane/universe.

I think of it this way (this is the message I took from it) - the entire show is a microcosm of life, we have mysteries that can never be solved yet we, as humans, continue to see those answers until we either give up or subscribe to faith. As such, we have very vague answers to seemingly endgame questions: what is the light source? What is the MIB's name? Who came before Jacob's mother? You can view these in regular life: where does life come from? Does God exist? If yes/no, who or what came before us? Lost, at it's core, is about Jack's journey from being a lost soul to completing his destiny and taking the next step into the unknown. Going back to the church, if you believe that Christian meant the friends made the church and not the entire alternate existence (so they could meet once again), you may do the same as I just did with the unanswerable questions. People create and harbor relationships, we forgive and love, we hate and despise. Through doing this we forge intense relationships, share and develop ideas, and create theories that bind or separate us. The church is a metaphor for that. They created a Christian temple so they could congregate together as friends and people who shared the most important time in their lives together and then step into the beyond and complete the life cycle.

At the end of the day, Lost was about the relationships and development/redemption of certain characters; Jack in particular. We saw his life develop and change, his time as protector of the Island and his progression towards fulfillment and entrance into the after life. The people who miss this and get hung up on the minor mysteries are missing what lost was about; life - and you don't get all the answers here either.

Senadin
05-26-2010, 05:14 AM
Some may think the ending was Christian, in fact it wasnt.

When Jack and his father are talking right after they hug, pay close attention to the stained glass and look at the several icons in the window.

Yes it was a church, yes there was a light.

But that one clue, that is the stained glass doesnt point to a christian dogma necesarily....

Kainzo
05-26-2010, 09:15 AM
I have never seen lost after Season 1... and I dont feel like wasting 200 hrs of my life doing so. Is there an episode recapper up until the finale? ;)

President
05-26-2010, 04:11 PM
Glad I came to this thread. Was quite tired and slightly sick when I finally got around to watching it last night and have had a real problem trying to figure out what the fuck I just watched. I think the first thing that helped it to start making more sense was separating the altiverse into a "no-time" zone or whatever.

It's starting to make more sense - though, I must say there are a few things I really wanted to have answered that weren't. Not finding out more about Walt kinda pissed me off as they made him up to be very *special* early on in the series.

President
05-26-2010, 04:21 PM
This was hilarious though - Alternate LOST ending...

http://i.imgur.com/wtzBE.gif

nalkin
05-26-2010, 05:08 PM
all I gotta say is thank the dear lord in heaven that I missed season 1 episode 1 and never started watching this crap. I remember how bad I tried to make it home to see it but I got home a few minutes to late and told myself I would catch the rerun... never did and I couldn't be happier.