red timeline

[Cars]

Can someone tell me roughly where we are at in the Red timeline? Rubicite, Lustrous Russet, manastones, guise all that stuff gone I am guessing?

[Cwall]

yeah along with all the players

[JayDee]

launch - now : dont know
now - future : thriving

[Greegon]

launch - now : dont know
now - future : thriving

lold

[Dullah]

We are at the end of classic. Everything up to sky is out, and all legacy was removed with the introduction of sol ro and PoH.

[jjgerman]

wishful thinking, kunark is still 6 months + away

[Dullah]

No one said anything about kunark. You may have a hater complex.

In actuality, red is on an accelerated timeline, and the time between PoS and Kunark was 4 months on live. You do the math.

[Amesplayerofgames]

Red's dead baby. Red is dead.

[Nirgon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysgQ9spsphk

[aerokella]

Kubark

[Maybach 2.0]

wheres Smedy :/

[Supaskillz]

If they stick with classic timeline kunark should be soon. If they follow same timeline as blue p99 we have a while until kunark.

[Clark]

The timeline is the first 3 months owned and rest basically sucked the big one. Lack of guard assist, release of blue epics, atrocious GMing (banning people for almost anything under the sun without discretion), no xp bonus, and no yellowtext all contributed to its downfall.

[Cars]

aerokella and jaydee kicking it on red? maybe we should revive Gothic Circle...

[Nirgon]

Start: Fish Bait sploits river vale money quest, ship springs a leak
Mid way: IF / Lovely flairs up, Troriste largely under the radar. Wizard "some how" out levels swarming bard
Mid: Early PvP skirmishes, no Holo deaths in them
Mid-Late: Nagafen dead all over front page server news, killed in obvious exploit hall way. Post is linked 2-3 more times on exploited kills
Late: Holocaust champions who leveled without recharged items storm SolB, remove Nihilum threat, settle the score with exploited dragon kill. Staff only punishes Holocaust. Exploited mist walkers and such are not removed until long, long after they are used to farm blue diamonds from the dinosaur in OOT for weeks straight. Some exploited loot remains, dragons are killed using blue diamond resist gear and exploited loot in the mean time. Skill is claimed.
(somewhere in here above): Slender man successfully steals 95% of population.
Later: Most of server and Holocaust "griefed off". Cazic cycle triggered by Nihilum, given the "OK". Over the next day and a half, Nihilum raids are halted in fear by triggering CT. After which, the rule is out lawed.
Getting closer to present: FF emerges and is comprised of newer players and some of Holocausts D squad, continues to kill Nihilum thus showing real PvP skill of their members. FF leaves shortly after, perhaps for lack of killing PvE targets.
Today: St... well.. can't um. Yeah, well let's hope we get some resists fixed and start 'er over again. Btw, these things will not happen.

[Cars]

Start: Fish Bait sploits river vale money quest, ship springs a leak
Mid way: IF / Lovely flairs up, Troriste largely under the radar. Wizard "some how" out levels swarming bard
Mid: Early PvP skirmishes, no Holo deaths in them
Mid-Late: Nagafen dead all over front page server news, killed in obvious exploit hall way. Post is linked 2-3 more times on exploited kills
Late: Holocaust champions who leveled without recharged items storm SolB, remove Nihilum threat, settle the score with exploited dragon kill. Staff only punishes Holocaust. Exploited mist walkers and such are not removed until long, long after they are used to farm blue diamonds from the dinosaur in OOT for weeks straight. Some exploited loot remains, dragons are killed using blue diamond resist gear and exploited loot in the mean time. Skill is claimed.
(somewhere in here above): Slender man successfully steals 95% of population.
Later: Most of server and Holocaust "griefed off". Cazic cycle triggered by Nihilum, given the "OK". Over the next day and a half, Nihilum raids are halted in fear by triggering CT. After which, the rule is out lawed.
Getting closer to present: FF emerges and is comprised of newer players and some of Holocausts D squad, continues to kill Nihilum thus showing real PvP skill of their members. FF leaves shortly after, perhaps for lack of killing PvE targets.
Today: St... well.. can't um. Yeah, well let's hope we get some resists fixed and start 'er over again. Btw, these things will not happen.

Allisaur is a 6 min spawn with placeholders, and his loot table has quite a few things on it. Even if this wasn't nerfed for 3 weeks, the amount of blue diamonds that this would leak into the server is still negligable, you are a whiner. If you were smart you would have had a rogue their pickpocketing anyways.

Say it like it is. red players are butt hurt over the past, but joining now wouldn't be any different then joining a red server a year after EQ launched. Your at a disadvantage but it is do-able, sorry you can't man up.

[Nirgon]

If you think a druid without a prenerf mist walker is comparable to one without at classic? Esp for farming dino? You are really fucking dumb lol.

A rogue? In OOT? Going to just pick pocket that mob one time at the chance he has a gem.... then what? Sit there do nothing? You know druids get see invis btw Sonny. Even better, he is fucked against a druid (against sow'd mist walker pet hi!) coming after him out, especially out there.

Kids lol. Sorry I can't convince people to come spend another 5+ /days played even here after what we've recently witnessed with the cor.. er... yeah you're right. Yep.

[Cars]

I understand the advantage, but you make it sound like that alone broke the server when it is something that could have been, and still can be overcome. Anyone starting now is at a disadvantage and they are running behind the players that are already established, no shit.

[Nirgon]

No there were more things :P I listed some of them.

You go log in and "do something about it" lol.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Let us know when you find that perfect server Nirgon!!!

[Nirgon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysgQ9spsphk

[Znif]

slender man dressed too nice to be scary....needs to purchase a clown suit

[Clark]

Allisaur is a 6 min spawn with placeholders, and his loot table has quite a few things on it. Even if this wasn't nerfed for 3 weeks, the amount of blue diamonds that this would leak into the server is still negligable, you are a whiner. If you were smart you would have had a rogue their pickpocketing anyways.

Say it like it is. red players are butt hurt over the past, but joining now wouldn't be any different then joining a red server a year after EQ launched. Your at a disadvantage but it is do-able, sorry you can't man up.

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[heartbrand]

Nirgon basically summed it up. The launch of this server through basically February was botched so incredibly bad and left such a bad taste in people's mouth's nothing short of a relaunch has any chance to save it. Of course, now that the RMT GMing scandal has broken, does anyone really have confidence in this staff going forward that they will be treated fairly?

[Nizzarr]

Here's the timeline:

November 20th: Blame wands
November 25th: Blame swords of runes
November 30th: Blame Zone lag when someone zone
December 4th: Blame ghoul lord pull to evil eye
December 13th: Blame Nihilum for "exploiting" Nagafen
January XX: Blame GMs for banning a guild caught exploiting Nagafen twice in a row
February-July: Take one of these above, and repeat it endlessly. also add, Blame nihilum for inviting players in their guild.
July: Blame GM RMT'ing.


let me know if I forgot something

[karsten]

kubark









































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kubark

[Tr0llb0rn]

Here's the timeline:

November 20th: Blame wands
November 25th: Blame swords of runes
November 30th: Blame Zone lag when someone zone
December 4th: Blame ghoul lord pull to evil eye
December 13th: Blame Nihilum for "exploiting" Nagafen
January XX: Blame GMs for banning a guild caught exploiting Nagafen twice in a row
February-July: Take one of these above, and repeat it endlessly. also add, Blame nihilum for inviting players in their guild.
July: Blame GM RMT'ing.


let me know if I forgot something

Short version of this truth:

BLAME!

[Slug]

Of course, now that the RMT GMing scandal has broken, does anyone really have confidence in this staff going forward that they will be treated fairly?

I remember talking about this happening in early March with Bkab and Letsjoe - saying it seemed like GMs and Rogean were too invested in the money they were making from selling items to do anything else, but there wasn't much evidence. What broke, links and info plz.

[Xantille]

Timeline:

Classic --> Kubark --> Yard sale --> trailer in Boise, Idaho

[aerokella]

aerokella and jaydee kicking it on red? maybe we should revive Gothic Circle...


+1

Kubark.

[Moonface]

No one said anything about kunark. You may have a hater complex.

In actuality, red is on an accelerated timeline, and the time between PoS and Kunark was 4 months on live. You do the math.

Let us know when you find that perfect server Nirgon!!!

Use just 1 forum name, multi accounts are for lames.

[Dullah]

Nizzar summed it up perfectly.

Never seen a group of people make up more ridiculous excuses than the sorry lot on EQ emu pvp.

These guys know this server was and is by far the best EQ pvp emu by leaps and fucking bounds since 1999. Unfortunately, they couldn't make the cut, so now they are fully immersed, obsessed and can't pull themselves away from a server they no longer even play on. They couldn't be the champions of THE legit EQ pvp server of the game they've professed to be the grand champions of for over a decade. Now, like spoiled children, they come on this forum and throw themselves on the ground, flailing and screaming because they didn't get their way.

The horse is in the ground, but his grave is still being beaten. Regardless of the fact of who discovered bugs on the server, after being told not to use them, one group of delinquents decided to continue using them. That group was Holocaust. Rinse and repeat with CT dt cycle, training et al. CT DT started by 1 Nihilum, 1 time, incidentally while scouting PoF. What happens? For the next week, Holo binds in a safe spot near CT and triggers the DT cycle nearly 100 times because we wiped them out of fear for weeks, with equal and even lesser numbers.

Since then, nothing but an asshat parade on these forums where every proud, whining, sackless, pimpled geek rages because he couldn't be what he he swore he was: the best at EQ.

Let it go, and let the recovery process begin.

[heartbrand]

I remember talking about this happening in early March with Bkab and Letsjoe - saying it seemed like GMs and Rogean were too invested in the money they were making from selling items to do anything else, but there wasn't much evidence. What broke, links and info plz.

It's on foh forums. as far as everything dullah wrote above lol x 1000. This guys immersion level is off the charts. You and your butt pals are the only ones concerned about "winning." You weren't even in the guild when the majority of PVP happened here. Did I win this server because I was in nihilum? Did the other 100 people who have joined nihilum at some time but ultimately quit because this server blows such as nerfed / hughman / elpresidente / silver / billy / bruuce / murderface / applesauce / arbie / birne / hfran / oddjob / hijinx / rhotic / ecoli / madude, etc etc etc x 1000, did they win the server? Did they lose the server? Does winning mean simply having a nihilum tag? Do you lose the second you don't? Do you still get to win if you're retired?

cliffnote: nobody gives a fuck about "winning" they just want a fun, non-buggy emulated version of EQ that has PVP, minimal GM intervention, and doesn't involve sitting in a basement for 16 hours a day to accomplish anything. I want this server to be fun. I want it to have people on it. LoZ isn't for me for many, many, reasons, but it did have something that this server has been missing since January. The fear of PVP. Knowing that if I exp just a tad too deep in Karnor's I might get ganked at any moment. Knowing I can't just sit care free afk at the sebilis zone in. Knowing that since people can use /who to find you (something sorely needed on red99) I can't just sit afk and enjoy the scenery of Neriak without fear of someone getting me.

[Tr0llb0rn]

cliffnote: nobody gives a fuck about "winning" they just want a fun,


Wrong again.

Computer, post the findings of my research

title: How to win Red99

query: /who all count
result: There are 20 players online.

query: /who all "Holocaust" count
result: There are 20 players online.

http://d37nnnqwv9amwr.cloudfront.net/photos/images/newsfeed/000/106/789/images.jpeg

Thank you, computer.


Thats what your side wanted to do. Their fun was only in "griefing" everyone else.

Luckily the White Knights of Nihilum vanquished that pack of scum. And in an epic turn of the tables... griefed THEM off the sever.

Server was worth it 100000000000000 percent just for that.

Truth.

[Dullah]

At least x1000

[Cwall]

December 13th: Blame Nihilum for "exploiting" Nagafen

requesting screencap of rogean outing you guys as exploiters over and over before the thread was deleted

requesting "more lucky than exploit" quote

[Tr0llb0rn]

requesting screencap of rogean outing you guys as exploiters over and over before the thread was deleted

requesting "more lucky than exploit" quote

screenshot or it diddint happen

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4q07hAV7E1rnfdl2.gif

[Tradesonred]

It's on foh forums. as far as everything dullah wrote above lol x 1000. This guys immersion level is off the charts. You and your butt pals are the only ones concerned about "winning." You weren't even in the guild when the majority of PVP happened here. Did I win this server because I was in nihilum? Did the other 100 people who have joined nihilum at some time but ultimately quit because this server blows such as nerfed / hughman / elpresidente / silver / billy / bruuce / murderface / applesauce / arbie / birne / hfran / oddjob / hijinx / rhotic / ecoli / madude, etc etc etc x 1000, did they win the server? Did they lose the server? Does winning mean simply having a nihilum tag? Do you lose the second you don't? Do you still get to win if you're retired?

cliffnote: nobody gives a fuck about "winning" they just want a fun, non-buggy emulated version of EQ that has PVP, minimal GM intervention, and doesn't involve sitting in a basement for 16 hours a day to accomplish anything. I want this server to be fun. I want it to have people on it. LoZ isn't for me for many, many, reasons, but it did have something that this server has been missing since January. The fear of PVP. Knowing that if I exp just a tad too deep in Karnor's I might get ganked at any moment. Knowing I can't just sit care free afk at the sebilis zone in. Knowing that since people can use /who to find you (something sorely needed on red99) I can't just sit afk and enjoy the scenery of Neriak without fear of someone getting me.

Ecoli here

I reluctantly joined Nihilum (since i dont like being on a team that has that much numbers over everybody else) because i wasnt digging some Founding Fathers racism and it meant that Holocaust was also not an option. So option 1 and 2 done with, why not try the only option left, 3 (Nihilum).

Im a pvper first and foremost, i got bored to tears seeing people raid in nihilum each night and watching them all log off after it and seeing the roster drop from 30 to 2. Nobody would fuck with Nihi pretty much while they were raiding and the odds were so reversed while they werent raiding that you had to hide under a rock or something.

Dead horse beaten to a pulp incoming: it was the xp loss in pvp that made the noobs quit after getting farmed by twinks, it was the xp loss that made Nihilum gain such an overwhelming advantage while they were farming and gave me such a handicap while i was itching to pvp with 2 guildies on.

All the knowledgeable people knew how to play EQ, so they level faster, know the spots for the gear, more likely to run around in large groups than casuals, and you penalize the noobs even more by making them lose xp in pvp on top of this.

This wasnt the best thought out game mechanic, to say the least, even though i know im not on the popular side with my views on this.

Basically, left the server cuz i wasnt having fun and that i foresaw all the casuals getting bled out of the server and pop dwindling because of the xp loss thing.

P.S. some Nihilum could probably not pvp their way out of a wet paperbag because i never actually saw them online ever outside of a raid. You can say whatever you want about FF and Holo, and i do not like them in general for the racist / cruel antics, but it is completely ridiculous and laughable to say they quit the server cuz they sucked at pvp and "lost the server", because in general, they didnt. LaMort did though :)

Maybe i could go for "Nihilum won the zerging game" but i bet it was a variety of factors that led to players, like me, to move on to something else.

Clueless non-pvper as head GM while Rogean MIA didnt help me stick around either.

[Nizzarr]

Because theres so much content to do in classic to keep us occupied.

There is killing raid mobs and thats it. Staying online for hours on end for the Lguk pvp got boring after the 3rd night.

I'm sorry thats pretty hard to comprehend. When you come to realize that being in Lguk with a full guild does nothing but grief the other players for no apparent reward for that said guild, you can understand why we dont do it.

If griefing people is your fun then im glad you arent on this server anymore. Come pvp us over raid targets, like this game is designed to be.

Oh and can you stop posting about XP loss? Its so irrelevant; I think you're missing a few screws.

[Cholk]

Ecoli here

Im a pvper first and foremost

.

Lol this coming from the guy who cried every night about getting camped by people in holo/ff. I remember you in vent, eeehhhh guys I got pvvvpppped, uummmm im gonna take a break. You only care about xp loss on a pvp death cause you got the shaft on it.

[Tradesonred]

Lol this coming from the guy who cried every night about getting camped by people in holo/ff. I remember you in vent, eeehhhh guys I got pvvvpppped, uummmm im gonna take a break. You only care about xp loss on a pvp death cause you got the shaft on it.

Anybody who is fair, and doesnt knee jerk hate me because im being honest with my experiences among the guilds ive been with throughout my stay on red will acknowledge that im a pvper first and foremost. Ask Andy or the other FF pvpers if i wasnt a pvper first and foremost, i was always down to go fight people. While youre at it, ask them if they were camping me every night after i left their guild, im sure theyll be happy to tell you that this is a slanderous idiotic claim by someone desperate for something to latch on to me because im being critical of Nihilum.

Cried every night? Every night was raid night with Nihi, you were exactly where i was during the night, raiding in fear.

I was one of the few Nihi who regularly duked it out in Lguk with a couple of Holos, "baddies who cant pvp and lost the server" such as gongshow, players better than me. I liked fighting these guys because you learn by fighting people better than you, not by crushing someone like Bahamut (lol).

I wasnt the best at pvp, but i wasnt the worst either, i was pretty hard to kill, knew when to gate, smart enough to wear a fishbone earring in Dagnor and dive underwater to survive a 4v1 encounter, beating the only guy who could follow me under.

Im "crying" about xp loss in pvp not because i ate it alot, but because its unhealthy for the server population.

Youre the biggest brown noser yet Cholk, at least Dullah calls me an idiot, and doesnt make up stuff about me "crying every night"

[Akim]

Okay. XP loss is so irrelevant I thought you guys were trolling.

Let's be honest ; fucking shitty people and circumstances drove everyone away.
Why havn't we mobalized and started a second guild to combat nihilum?
Everytime I tried everyone was too fucking retarded to even clear our way into fear!
I never was with FF .. don't know why you guys couldn't raid or whatever. You griefed me pretty regularely so I ended up pvp'ing against you guys with nihilum, pvp'ed pretty regularely in oot.
Starwars times or w/e, I showed up to raid, but then Lamort was drunk and no one had the numbers aparently, yet, I know for a fact I've done ct with our numbers, let alone just fucking clear into fear. I understand, lower clerics then wanted, but really... sad story that one.)
I could sure of used those bluebies everyone professed this server was full of.
How many of us have "beaten" this server because there is no where else to progress to?

I guess I should of taken the nihilum invite months ago; but to what ends? ? Will this ever change.
Are you Kunark people serious? Why would you wait to come back if you were. I guess you'll all just let nihilum mature even harder then they already have - run to a different bugged out server - give up? I don't know.

Better yet, I take a few month break, I come back, and there's nothing different what-so-ever.

[Tradesonred]

You know, as a person whose native tongue is not english, i get the feeling im right about xp loss when i see yet one more person who says "xp loss is irrelevant" spell words like mobilize and regularly "mobalize" and "regularely".

Its i should have taken, not i should of taken BTW XD lol

I hate to be a grammar nazi but those arent exactly small mistakes

[Dullah]

Your grammar corrections are more relevant and poignant than your opinions related to EQ.

I guess when nothing else you says makes sense, correct grammar and establish credibility concerning something.

[Tradesonred]

Your grammar corrections are more relevant and poignant than your opinions related to EQ.

I guess when nothing else you says makes sense, correct grammar and establish credibility concerning something.

I know it has close to 0 relevance :)

I know im right though about xp loss lol

[Akim]

You know, as a person whose native tongue is not english, i get the feeling im right about xp loss when i see yet one more person who says "xp loss is irrelevant" spell words like mobilize and regularly "mobalize" and "regularely".

Its i should have taken, not i should of taken BTW XD lol

I hate to be a grammar nazi but those arent exactly small mistakes

Fuck you, as a person who does not give a fuck.

[heartbrand]

While exp loss is a non issue right now it will become an issue in kunark at the end game, if there was PVP (which there won't be) when that one blue takes thirty minutes and a dedicated group to grind out for melees. It's still a stupid feature all together and not classic.

[Akim]

Lol. I still think you're trolling

[Dullah]

I think everyone can agree its pretty pointless. Id rather see item loot, but everyone knows that will never happen.

Its just at the bottom of "the list" and completely irrelevant atm. Continually bringing it up only serves to derail topics.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I liked fighting these guys because you learn by fighting people better than you

Everyone was better then you in pvp.

You were clueless in PvE

You guild hopped looking for greener pastures , not understanding you are a shitheel causeing the grass to brown.

You quit the server in short order, as everyone knew you would.

You were VERY annoying in vent with that ridiculous accent that zero native english speakers could understand, Toriste has to translate for us your every word.


THOSE are the reasons you preach so much about the PvP xp loss on death, because your last name in game should of been "need xp" (in every meaning of that word).

[Knuckle]

Red is ready for a wipe yesterday

[Rogean]

Red is ready for a wipe never


Fixed.

[Ancient Cyclops]

Rare spawn?!?

[Supreme]

If we could only get all the people that troll/lurk the forums to log into Red99 and play...

we would have a higher population...

[Tr0llb0rn]

Fixed.

We never doubted that, many of us are here because we know this is the only serious EMU out there.

Every mob on the server that can be beaten in classic, has now been beaten many times over. Nine months of classic was great and we loved it but we are so ready for............................... Kunark. Make us happy :)

[heartbrand]

Fixed.

And here you have it folks. Four months since his last post on this forum Rogean returns to post. Does he answer the months old question thread started by the staff? Does he address the timeline questions. Is he here to finish the months old still incomplete red rules? Is he here to collect player feedback how to improve upon this server? Is he responding to one of the now literally hundred plus threads about suggestions for this server? No, he gives a one word snarky response to knuckle. This above all else is why this server is dead.

[Nizzarr]

Great, now you got a reason to move on Heartbrand.

[Tr0llb0rn]

And here you have it folks. Four months since his last post on this forum Rogean returns to post. Does he answer the months old question thread started by the staff? Does he address the timeline questions. Is he here to finish the months old still incomplete red rules? Is he here to collect player feedback how to improve upon this server? Is he responding to one of the now literally hundred plus threads about suggestions for this server? No, he gives a one word snarky response to knuckle. This above all else is why this server is dead.

yes, please let this be the nail in your p99 coffin, I encourage you to move on or you can hit up Veeshans Peak with all those "friends" you said you made overthere on LoZ. People there just "want pvp" right? Sounds right up your alley! Have fun.

(on the bright side I can almost guarantee you , you can tank every single mob on that sever without fail, think of the l00t.....)

[heartbrand]

Great, now you got a reason to move on Heartbrand.

I don't get it. Don't you guys want a more populated server? Don't you want to see 200+ people again on the login server? The real trolls here are the ones advocating no changes at all and that everything is healthy and a-ok as is.

[Aenor]

Rare spawn?!?

LOL

[Graahle]

I don't get it. Don't you guys want a more populated server? Don't you want to see 200+ people again on the login server? The real trolls here are the ones advocating no changes at all and that everything is healthy and a-ok as is.

I don't recall anyone saying that they're satisfied with Red in its current state,and that it needs no changes. Sure, lots of us are enjoying it, but you would be hard-pressed to find anyone disagreeing with you on the population part, let alone many other things.

[Zeds]

Red's dead baby. Red is dead.

relevant

[Massive Marc]

requesting screencap of rogean outing you guys as exploiters over and over before the thread was deleted

requesting "more lucky than exploit" quote

I can't help with the screenshot (I'm at work) but I can provide the quote (I sig'd it the day it was posted):

Vox was tanked by hughman in plain sight, we found out that the bard could attack tru the wall there(more lucky than exploit) and we just pilled everyone there.

[Nirgon]

If you weren't in that exact right corner you stopped logging in here

[Ticklemered]

We never doubted that, many of us are here because we know this is the only serious EMU out there.

Every mob on the server that can be beaten in classic, has now been beaten many times over. Nine months of classic was great and we loved it but we are so ready for............................... Kunark. Make us happy :)


Well... most mobs, but the latter islands in sky just aren't possible with the numbers that log in.

[Aenor]

I don't get it. Don't you guys want a more populated server? Don't you want to see 200+ people again on the login server? The real trolls here are the ones advocating no changes at all and that everything is healthy and a-ok as is.

I absolutely want population to come back. I joined Nihilum right before you quit. My bro Reefman from VZTZ was recruiting me to join FF but I decided I didn't want to play with certain douchebags in your guild. Decided I would rather fight them. You failed on Naggy and quit before I got a chance.

[Tradesonred]

I don't get it. Don't you guys want a more populated server? Don't you want to see 200+ people again on the login server? The real trolls here are the ones advocating no changes at all and that everything is healthy and a-ok as is.

More brown nosing than trolling

I guess most people in Nihi dont give a fuck about the pop, all they wanna do is farm their pve and crush some people with numbers once in a while.

Like you said, Kunark will make it worse, not better.

[SamwiseBanned]

relevant

ZEDS COME BACK!

[heartbrand]

I absolutely want population to come back. I joined Nihilum right before you quit. My bro Reefman from VZTZ was recruiting me to join FF but I decided I didn't want to play with certain douchebags in your guild. Decided I would rather fight them. You failed on Naggy and quit before I got a chance.

Yes it's a real shame. The only two guilds that ever had any chance of rivaling nihilum both had terrible leadership. Holocaust never had a leader, though it wasn't much of an issue till post ban, and FF had no real leadership. Both were also very elitist in who they invited whereas I don't think nihilum has turned down a single person on this server other than sickpuppy. I tried to make starwars time and create active officers and what not but it was too little too late with the pop at that point, there was just not enough players left to recruit.

It was just lolworthy watching the dumb prior drama in these guilds that people had with each other, "omg we cant invite player Z he griefed inactive member #245 back on box #358 three years ago," and of course that player would then join nihilum. I get not wanting to play with lots of people you dislike, but frankly most of the drama seemed pretty dumb to begin with, and I'd rather play with some people that are a tad annoying but get to do lots of PVP nightly and have fun fights than be constantly out numbered by nihilum and only be able to do things at 3am in the morning on a weeknight and then ultimately quit because no one wants to recruit.

That's what some of these nihilum trolls are missing here. It's not about winning or losing, it's about the excitment of the battle. A lot of us who are retired for the moment, from both sides, are not playing because there is no battle, not because we don't have item XYZ.

[SamwiseBanned]

VV is doing big thangz. as long as you arent a racist scumbag, we will gladly take you in.

[mindsculptor]

I don't get it. Don't you guys want a more populated server? Don't you want to see 200+ people again on the login server? The real trolls here are the ones advocating no changes at all and that everything is healthy and a-ok as is.

Obviously what you are trying to do is increase the population by trying to tell everyone with every post you make that the server is doomed and how we are idiots for playing here or thinking population will increase.

Clearly I am the troll here.

[Tradesonred]

That's what some of these nihilum trolls are missing here. It's not about winning or losing, it's about the excitment of the battle. A lot of us who are retired for the moment, from both sides, are not playing because there is no battle, not because we don't have item XYZ.

To alot of them, its "winning" that counts. Crushing opposition with overwhelming numbers, having exclusivity on raid content, not having daily fun pvp.

Some game mechanic that shall remain unnamed encouraged that lol

I agree with Heartbrand on this and its been my position from the start, we need game mechanics that fosters and encourages daily pvp, no event can beat daily, un"scripted" fun pvp.

[Advisor]

No, tides change, and Big Bad HB is now realizing that he did try.

Sadly, your friends are over on LOZ creating more drama over box #953

They will come back, organized or not, I hope the 50-60 people over there take a moment and realize that if they come back to Red99 they would be 50-60, versus Nihilums, staggering, 15-22 lol...

You guys complain that Nihilum is a problem, but we are just competitive people playing on a not so competitive server.

Come back and try to shuv our face in the dirt.

I remember a few great battles before Agatha got rainbow punted all over Lavastorm.

After that, you guys couldn't keep moral up...

There was a time when you nazi fucks were so happy you were holding down Naggy's Lair.

Not for the Dragon, but for the sake of PVP..


You lost your spark, men.

Dust yourself off and clean the sand from your vaginal region and come do something about it!

Hell, all this forum war would make even better PVP war

:)

[SamwiseBanned]

To alot of them, its "winning" that counts. Crushing opposition with overwhelming numbers, having exclusivity on raid content, not having daily fun pvp.

Some game mechanic that shall remain unnamed encouraged that lol

I agree with Heartbrand on this and its been my position from the start, we need game mechanics that fosters and encourages daily pvp, no event can beat daily, un"scripted" fun pvp.

daily pvp happens even with this low pop. here are a few random screens from the past 2-3 days. these are just the ones i remembered to SS. i imagine the SS from one player dont account for even 10% of the daily pvp that goes on. also this doesnt account for people gating away, plugging, ect. pvp is a zone away you just gotta find it (or let it find u.)

http://i.imgur.com/CdRP3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/s0C43.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pVvvA.png

http://i.imgur.com/IIptp.png

http://i.imgur.com/hZksF.png

so again unless im the only one pvp ing on the entire server, daily unscripted pvp happens alot considering our player base. ps sorry Razz!!!!! I was blood drunk from making Valk gate away 10 min before u popped up.

[heartbrand]

Big misconception some people seem to have that FF moral died or something. We never had numbers like that, it was a fluke that for that week everyone was logging on at the same time and was willing to stay on for the good fight. Keep in mind even then we had to use some admittedly dirty tactics to delay you guys long enough till more people would log on, and then usually by the time pvp ended half the people logged off when it was time for pve. Come day 4 or w/e it was a couple members of the leadership went on vacation and we got half the numbers we had on other nights. Nihilum out numbered us, we tried to port around kill time, have some skirmishes etc hoping more would log on but it never happened. The numbers returned to normal at that point which was shit before 1am, and then burn out etc just killed it off.

Def agree with you on LoZ though, but the issue again is, a lot of those people never finished the grind here and after LoZ exp those people aren't going to sit here and kill 10,000or pawns to hit level 50. Changes need to be made here to have any shot of enticing some of those players, and many of the other people such as casuals, back to this server.

[Takyn]

Big misconception some people seem to have that FF moral died or something. We never had numbers like that, it was a fluke that for that week everyone was logging on at the same time and was willing to stay on for the good fight. Keep in mind even then we had to use some admittedly dirty tactics to delay you guys long enough till more people would log on, and then usually by the time pvp ended half the people logged off when it was time for pve. Come day 4 or w/e it was a couple members of the leadership went on vacation and we got half the numbers we had on other nights. Nihilum out numbered us, we tried to port around kill time, have some skirmishes etc hoping more would log on but it never happened. The numbers returned to normal at that point which was shit before 1am, and then burn out etc just killed it off.

Def agree with you on LoZ though, but the issue again is, a lot of those people never finished the grind here and after LoZ exp those people aren't going to sit here and kill 10,000or pawns to hit level 50. Changes need to be made here to have any shot of enticing some of those players, and many of the other people such as casuals, back to this server.

I'll come back if xp is boosted severely. Were here for pvp not grind99.

[Advisor]

XP has been increased.

[mindsculptor]

Def agree with you on LoZ though, but the issue again is, a lot of those people never finished the grind here and after LoZ exp those people aren't going to sit here and kill 10,000or pawns to hit level 50. Changes need to be made here to have any shot of enticing some of those players, and many of the other people such as casuals, back to this server.

Have you played here lately? Xp is absurdly fast

[Tr0llb0rn]

That's what some of these nihilum trolls are missing here. It's not about winning or losing, it's about the excitment of the battle. A lot of us who are retired for the moment, from both sides, are not playing because there is no battle, not because we don't have item XYZ.

Umm we all get that, and we are all here for classic RED eq.

The difference is, some of us are in game trying to nurture community and keep the sever going.

and a bunch of other people (like you) are just bitching on forums.

and there "is no battle" because people do not log in to fight, its as simple as that. They'd rather 4 man all of veeshan's peak on a ez server. and use unlimmited hoop lifetap to insta gimp people when they feel like "pvping" there.

How many times do I have to bring up that week of pvp over Nagafen before yourside just up and threw in the towel and headed over to ez server to duo the dragons they could not kill here?

Anyways, i'd support the following compromises:

-Scaleing xp stays in but at level 35 when it has tapered off to a 20 percent bonus, leave it there, dont let it decay anymore lower then 20 percent. So 100 percent to 20 percent scaleing bonus from lvls 1 to 35, and flat 20 percent bonus from there onward. My foggy memory tells me SZ's bonus was around 20percent so this is appropriate.

-Yellow Text: Go ahead and put it in, I just do not care anymore about this.

-Temporary 50 percent or so xp bonus in the two weeks leading up to Kunark.

If you guys want more then that, then I'm sorry, nothing will satisfy you and you are just here to bitch about what "could of been" before Nihilum slapped you across the faces, with two handed, smothered in broken glass.

[Advisor]

nothing will satisfy you and you are just here to bitch.

Lol

Truth can be found between the lines.

[Zeds]

ZEDS COME BACK!

thinking about it

[Advisor]

XP's groovin' like a disco yo

[heartbrand]

I'm being vocal because I want a server to play on that's fun and has pop. This server, while fun to Nihilum and the 15 people who quit every three weeks and then come back again and still haven't hit level 50 nine months into this server, is not fun to the 400+ of us who have quit. I'm trying, seemingly in vain, to get the changes done that will facilitate building this server again into something fun to play on.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I'm being vocal because I want a server to play on that's fun and has pop. This server, while fun to Nihilum and the 15 people who quit every three weeks and then come back again and still haven't hit level 50 nine months into this server, is not fun to the 400+ of us who have quit. I'm trying, seemingly in vain, to get the changes done that will facilitate building this server again into something fun to play on.

yes its in vain, so stop.

How about instead trying to be a positive influence on the the server and forums? Play up the bright side of things, highlight the good things about the server and community.

Or , are you just mad and trollin cause your guilds failed? We'll see.

[heartbrand]

Unlike you I actually donated money to this server which nilbog can verify since its his paypal account

[Tr0llb0rn]

Abacaba (or wtf his name was, the worse player/trainer/exploiter in emu history) donated money too and screenshotted it to brag.

What was your point again?

[heartbrand]

You claim I don't want the server to succeed. I counter that in fact I have actually donated money to this server to see it remain operational. Checkmate.

[Swampfeet]

Who gives a shit about bringing all the annoying, whiny, self-entitled ass-holes back.

I don't.

Let new people come from blue when there is Kunark raid content without variance (which there will be).

[Zereh]

Who gives a shit about bringing all the annoying, whiny, self-entitled ass-holes back.

I don't.

Let new people come from blue when there is Kunark raid content without variance (which there will be).

^^

[Akim]

Who gives a shit about bringing all the annoying, whiny, self-entitled ass-holes back.

I don't.

Let new people come from blue when there is Kunark raid content without variance (which there will be).

Swamp nuts!

[Akim]

Abacaba (or wtf his name was, the worse player/trainer/exploiter in emu history) donated money too and screenshotted it to brag.

What was your point again?

abacab was a sexual one-eyed rogue beast.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Who gives a shit about bringing all the annoying, whiny, self-entitled ass-holes back.

I don't.

Let new people come from blue when there is Kunark raid content without variance (which there will be).

yeah very good point, I agree

[Tradesonred]

Who gives a shit about bringing all the annoying, whiny, self-entitled ass-holes back.

I don't.

Let new people come from blue when there is Kunark raid content without variance (which there will be).

The problem wont be to make them come.

As always, it will be keeping them around.

[Dullah]

Are we talking about red, or my ex girlfriend?