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mwatt
07-24-2012, 04:01 PM
Something is wrong with the way Rharzar exists in P99. He seems to be always up and he paths right through the area in which people often (or used to) kill giants. My 42 SK has taken 5 deaths so far to this guy - two of those deaths even occurred after I identified his pathing. I really don't recall him being much of a problem on Live. No way this is classic.

For those who don't know, he doubles for 288, and has some sort of DD that hits for 500 or more. His aggro range is wide and he sees through invis. He flies low, sometimes in little valleys and often can sneak up on you. If he does, it is unlikely you will survive.

So my questions are these:
1) Why is he always up? Is that natural, is it right?
2) Is his pathing correct? I really don't think so.

I would hope that people will chime in with comments, knowledge and maybe some pertinent links related to this guy.

He has basically ruined the giant area unless you can handle camping from atop the plateau itself. Even then, with a misstep you might well die.

Atmas
07-24-2012, 04:13 PM
Yeah I am almost certain that his pathing is messed up on this server. On live I don't recall frequently if ever seeing him in the HG area. I think on live he just wandered around another area where there were some other drakes.

Xadion
07-24-2012, 04:31 PM
Is he KOS? well duh obviously... but I seem to remeber he was not KOS when I was hunting for him for my epic-

He spawns in the correct spot- and in the hill/sphinx area he wonders it is correct- however he does indeed wonder out of that "Platue area with the evil sphinx- aka where the frog town is eventualy set up" now THAT I cannot say is 100% classic- as on live when I wanted him he was always wondering just around that platue- on here he goes outside and wonders around the HG mount area etc etc then back to that platue and circles around.

- I have no real proof just remeberances.

Also he is like hasten etc- his placeholder "a drake" will depop every 3-4hrs and if big bad drake pops and no one kills he wonders for 3-4hrs or so etc

Ephirith
07-24-2012, 05:04 PM
I was attacked by Rharzar down in the valley between HG hill and zonewall, I moved up onto the hill to kill HG's and was never attacked again, even when he was up.

fullmetalcoxman
07-24-2012, 05:58 PM
I spent some time in RM on live and never knew Rharzar existed until P99.

shooteneq1
07-24-2012, 06:44 PM
i am almost 100% positive in the old days he just stayed in the sphinx area circling around it.

On p99 though he circles around it and also comes to the HG area and does a circle around the plateau. He also DOES NOT despawn after 3-4 hours like hasten cycle. I have killed HGs for hours upon hours and he would not despawn. Once he is up i have never seen him not up untill a patch day. Thank god i play a druid and i just hit track and always kept him on it to make sure i knew where he was at all times.

LiQuid
07-24-2012, 11:44 PM
Rharzar SUCKS.

Danyelle
07-25-2012, 04:35 AM
He spawns in the correct spot- and in the hill/sphinx area he wonders it is correct- however he does indeed wonder out of that "Platue area with the evil sphinx- aka where the frog town is eventualy set up" now THAT I cannot say is 100% classic- as on live when I wanted him he was always wondering just around that platue- on here he goes outside and wonders around the HG mount area etc etc then back to that platue and circles around.

I think you just answered every question about pathing in this thread. My guess would be he paths in the (as of now on Live, FORMER) hill giant area, due to the fact that the place he USED to spawn and path is where the froggies went....and a mob of that magnitude that's KoS in what is basically a starting city even Sony acknowledges is idiotic.

Odds are it's where he is on Live now, and is on PEQ, and he never got changed back for P99.

AimAce
07-25-2012, 04:39 AM
He hits very hard for a very tiny dragon.

Xadion
07-25-2012, 07:45 AM
I would advise to either ask for this thread be moved to bugs, or make a new one there and include peoples input and close this one so it can be taken into consideration for a change.

he hits hard for a little green flappyflap and then heals himself hehe

Aicha
07-25-2012, 09:27 AM
I spent some time in RM on live and never knew Rharzar existed until P99.

This. I killed countless HGs on several different characters back on Live and never came across this thing. Here, he patrols all around the "hill giant hill."
Keeps you on your toes, I will say that. :)

Vaderman
07-25-2012, 10:11 AM
He is a cleric mob, his danger was that he healed himself repeatedly. I don't recall a 500 DD spell, but i guess that is normal since the spell casting AI here is more potent. 100% certain that his pathing kept him at the sphinx hill area with the other drakes in the SW corner of the zone.

Raavak
07-25-2012, 10:48 AM
Yah, he wasn't an issue on Live. I farmed HG's big time during Velious and never had an issue.

rordell
07-25-2012, 11:15 AM
i was killing blackwing last night for my bard epic on my alt and half through the fight I noticed my hp's starting going down FAST, im getting my ass whooped big time and im thinking "wtf is going on?" before i realzied Rharzar had pathed to me from behind. 3 seconds later it was LOADING, PLEASE WAIT.

Raavak
07-25-2012, 11:44 AM
Well, I think he IS supposed to path over there by Blackwing and the sphynx, and the other drakes. But you can stay out of his route if you are camping Blackwing/Shardwing.

Xadion
07-25-2012, 12:11 PM
aye, he always will path by the blackwing spawn, just stay away from the zone wall (anti our innate eq survival skills) and blackwing is static in the back there so that's good also. Blackwing also is on a force repop cycle a la hasten etc

Conky
07-25-2012, 12:21 PM
I spent countless hours on live farming HGs in rath and never seen him around the HG area definitly not "classic".

Lagaidh
07-25-2012, 03:50 PM
Yah, he wasn't an issue on Live. I farmed HG's big time during Velious and never had an issue.

Same here, unfortunately it is only my memory. I've been on my wife's halfling druid and been pasted a couple times on p99. But boy does that toon earn back XP fast compared to my pally!

Austrianna
07-25-2012, 07:00 PM
I spent some time in RM on live and never knew Rharzar existed until P99.

This. On Live I had two chars kill giants there for a few levels, never even saw/heard of Rharzar til this thread, lol

mwatt
07-26-2012, 03:58 PM
If one or more people will post some links backing up our memories (that he is not supposed to path through the valley where people fight giants) then I will write up the bug.

Raavak
07-26-2012, 04:03 PM
Rharzar on Zam (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.html?id=5197)

mwatt
07-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Rharzar on Zam (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.html?id=5197)

Thank you for the link but I don't think it is usable. Aside from the info being fairly hard to read because the page has been retired by Zam, the information that I saw only went back to 2002 Timeframe. We need something from around 2000 or maybe 2001.

Raavak
07-26-2012, 04:43 PM
Ah sorry :( Bunch of posts talk about the drake hill and stuff. I didn't check the date.

mwatt
07-27-2012, 02:09 AM
Well Raavak you are not to be blamed - it is difficult to find information on his pathing in the early days. What is easy to prove is where he was moved to when they redid Rathe Mtns and added Frogloks, etc.

On reason I asked for others to find links is that I myself haven't had too much luck. Like you, the best I could find so far was from 2002. There is some info near the bottom of this link that pretty much points to him spawing and staying in the Drake area way back in the days of 2002, before the Rathe Mtns remake:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5197

I don't know if it is enough evidence to convince Nilbog and/or the other devs. Certainly the consensus of players posting so far is that his current P99 pathing is wrong. Still hoping for someone to post a definitive link. I'll wait a couple of more days, if nothing else shows up, I'll post a bug and point to this thread at that time.

Vicatin
07-27-2012, 08:39 AM
Never heard about him until this server. Was a non issue in classic. I remember farming those giants for hours.

mwatt
07-29-2012, 04:33 AM
I posted a bug about Rharzar's pathing.

Vladesch
08-11-2012, 07:20 AM
I think the problem came about a couple of patches ago.
I used to spend a lot of time in hill giant valley levelling my necro, and never had a problem.
Since a couple of months ago I can never go there to level anymore without being attacked.

And as for live, I also spent tons of time in HG valley and never knew he existed.