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Massive Marc
07-04-2012, 12:07 PM
For anyone that's interested:

"The results are preliminary but the 5 sigma signal at around 125 GeV we’re seeing is dramatic. This is indeed a new particle. We know it must be a boson and it’s the heaviest boson ever found,” said CMS experiment spokesperson Joe Incandela. “The implications are very significant and it is precisely for this reason that we must be extremely diligent in all of our studies and cross-checks."


http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2012/PR17.12E.html

nilbog
07-04-2012, 12:10 PM
Nice.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hIGrFxSTkBU/TMGyceAbP5I/AAAAAAAAB6Y/6-eGvqc5pP0/s1600/Gordon%2BFreeman%2BSpotted%2BAt%2BCERN.jpg

Faywind
07-04-2012, 12:52 PM
This is truly very exciting if it is indeed a boson particle!!

Safon
07-04-2012, 03:43 PM
Could someone explain the importance and potential applications of this discovery to us momgoloids please

Danyelle
07-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Could someone explain the importance and potential applications of this discovery to us momgoloids please

Collide Hadrons --- Receive Half-Life IRL

Hasbinlulz
07-04-2012, 04:35 PM
Could someone explain the importance and potential applications of this discovery to us momgoloids please
Absolutely nothing. This is simply evidence supporting most of the major theories of physics. They hypothesized this particle as being necessary to the way they think the universe works, and then set about to find it to "prove" the hypothesis. So they built a large gizmo to find it, and lo and behold it's there. That's all.

Hasbinlulz
07-04-2012, 04:36 PM
I mean, having the technology to observe it will undoubtedly lead to more discoveries, but in and of itself, this changes nothing.

Massive Marc
07-04-2012, 04:49 PM
Absolutely nothing. This is simply evidence supporting most of the major theories of physics. They hypothesized this particle as being necessary to the way they think the universe works, and then set about to find it to "prove" the hypothesis. So they built a large gizmo to find it, and lo and behold it's there. That's all.

It would be pretty naive (and stupid) to say one of the biggest scientific findings in our life time "changes nothing"

God just got proven and now all the atheist scum are scrambling to find another excuse.

All praise be to white Jesus


Doors, actually a physicist by the name of Amit Goswami has already claimed to have proved God exists through Quantum Physics:

http://www.amitgoswami.org/

His documentary was interesting.

MrSparkle001
07-04-2012, 09:39 PM
I mean, having the technology to observe it will undoubtedly lead to more discoveries, but in and of itself, this changes nothing.

No way, next stop is Star Trek.

Azu
07-06-2012, 02:01 AM
I mean, having the technology to observe it will undoubtedly lead to more discoveries, but in and of itself, this changes nothing. Observation is the first step of progress. learn how it works and you can work your way into manipulation. This changes everything

quido
07-06-2012, 02:11 AM
lol @ RL Gordon

azeth
07-06-2012, 07:15 AM
young physicists

mgellan
07-06-2012, 11:53 AM
No one knew what the hell you might use an electron for when it was first hypothesized, I think we figured out useful things to use it for.... dragon pixels!

One cool thing I've seen as a possible use is to "de-mass" spacecraft (since the Higgs field imbues other particles with mass) so they can travel at lightspeed without needing infinite energy to accelerate their mass to lightspeed. Doesn't do squat for time dialation but travelling at the speed of light would mean that from your perspective, all trips of all distances would be instantaneous.

Regards,
Mg

Hitchens
07-06-2012, 11:59 AM
Doors, actually a physicist by the name of Amit Goswami has already claimed to have proved God exists through Quantum Physics:

http://www.amitgoswami.org/

His documentary was interesting.

Deepak Chopra uses the same claims to sell his books. Both are absurd.

mgellan
07-06-2012, 12:02 PM
Deepak Chopra uses the same claims to sell his books. Both are absurd.

/agree

It's amazing how much legitimacy using the word "quantum" adds to complete and utter mystical bullshit to people that don't understand what the hell quantum means. Chopra has been peddling the same woo for years on this, it's not surprising other people want to jump on the gravy train.

When someone other than a physicist says "quantum" treat it as lies! Kind of like "One time a friend of mine..." or "I'll tell ya this, no kidding, ... "

Regards,
Mg

Hitchens
07-06-2012, 12:10 PM
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quantum_woo

Kimm Barely
07-06-2012, 12:54 PM
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MrSparkle001
07-06-2012, 02:59 PM
Deepak Chopra uses the same claims to sell his books. Both are absurd.

So physicists that don't believe in God = good and worth listening to; physicists that believe in God and try to understand spirituality through physics = bad and crackpots you shouldn't listen to.

Way to keep an open, scientific mind.

"If it doesn't agree with my preconceived notions it must be false"

Safon
07-06-2012, 03:32 PM
We got God haters up in this thread? Things should get interesting as usual then!

Massive Marc
07-06-2012, 03:44 PM
Deepak Chopra uses the same claims to sell his books. Both are absurd.

While I don't necessarily believe all/any of his theories, I wouldn't call them absurd. I thought his documentary was pretty interesting and that kind of outside of the box thinking, I believe, helps with progressing our understanding of.. well everything. If he's wrong we learn, if he's right we learn. I don't believe he's just another wack job trying to sell books.

Mr Sprakle is very right with his comment and as a side note: I really think any explanation of God in any form is going to sound absurd. Short of him walking on a cloud up to the Vatican in front of thousands of video cameras, it's going to be a tough pill to swallow.

Hitchens
07-06-2012, 04:29 PM
I would call them absurd, because they are. There is a distinct difference between keeping an open mind and having a hole in your head from which your brains leak out.

Massive Marc
07-06-2012, 04:33 PM
Why is it absurd ?

Hitchens
07-06-2012, 04:36 PM
Because a god of the gaps argument is the same argument regardless of how you dress it up.

chtulu
07-07-2012, 04:44 AM
This might be the perfect time to bump my thread. But now introducing the Higgs Boson!

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25458&highlight=idiot

MrSparkle001
07-08-2012, 11:23 AM
Why is it absurd ?

Because it doesn't agree with preconceived notions of course. That's what it boils down to no matter you embellish it.

I hope everyone here realizes that the possible discovery of the Higgs Boson has nothing to do whatsoever with proving or disproving God. Nothing at all. It's a fantastic possible discovery but why do people insist on bringing religion into it? One has nothing to do with the other.

(We know why they do though. Because they're looking for anything to support their preconceived notions. They won't admit it though because they know they're grasping at straws.)

Faywind
07-08-2012, 07:03 PM
Because it doesn't agree with preconceived notions of course. That's what it boils down to no matter you embellish it.

I hope everyone here realizes that the possible discovery of the Higgs Boson has nothing to do whatsoever with proving or disproving God. Nothing at all. It's a fantastic possible discovery but why do people insist on bringing religion into it? One has nothing to do with the other.

(We know why they do though. Because they're looking for anything to support their preconceived notions. They won't admit it though because they know they're grasping at straws.)

Well said...