ObAmAcArE gettin thrown out lol owned

[Slathar]

health care isn't a right; if you dont have money to pay for your life-threatening illnesses you should just movie to communist sweden.

[Lucky]

i have obamacare

it sux


cash4clunkers

[Slathar]

i have obamacare

it sux


cash4clunkers

i converted all of my holdings into gold. and when i say that i mean i just spent all of my savings on gold chains at a local pawn shop and hid them where i keep my dorito stash since mom says i need to lose weight but what does she know about anything shes just a drunk

[Ninja]

fat people shouldnt get social security benefits (They currently can once considered "immobile" due to obesity related injuries such as knee surgeries, etc.)

[Slathar]

fat people shouldnt get social security benefits (They currently can once considered "immobile" due to obesity")

ACCEPTABLE NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!9999 9

[Rushmore]

doesn't matter martial law soon.

[Slathar]

doesn't matter martial law soon.

we should start collecting 2 of every animal so i can say that 2 of each species of the entire living existence of earth is on a fucking giant wooden ship built my a 600 year old lunatic with a black persons name and a fluid-encrusted beard from gettin facials from that homosexual commune leader jesus who got fukin owned by pontius pilate (shoulda had more hp gear if u cant even take one round of Spell: Crucifixtion)


WUT DO U THIKN AbOuT that?

[FoxxHound]

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[MrSparkle001]

People are going to be seriously pissed tomorrow, no matter which way the court rules. I got my popcorn ready.

[MrSparkle001]

Supreme Court just screwed everything up :) States can't be forced to participate in medicaid the way the feds want them to, and the individual mandate is unconstitutional per commerce clause but is OK per taxing.

Wtf happens now?

This is better for Romney and worse for Obama than people think right now.

[Nuggie]

Sooo.... the feds can determine that something is required to have now. Next time a republican gets in office they can tax people for not owning firearms...?

[Slathar]

ONLy A MATetR OF TIME UntIL DEATH CAMPS ARE SET Up

i suggestg etting sum FUKNgn guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrSparkle001]

Sooo.... the feds can determine that something is required to have now. Next time a republican gets in office they can tax people for not owning firearms...?

State laws withstanding, yes. This is a huge overreach and gives the government the power to force us to basically do anything they want. "Buy American cars or pay a tax". "Buy firearms or pay a tax". "Buy low sugar, low fat foods or pay a tax"

And this is the best part:

Obama: "This is not a tax"

Supreme Court: "This is a tax"

[Slathar]

State laws withstanding, yes. This is a huge overreach and gives the government the power to force us to basically do anything they want. "Buy American cars or pay a tax". "Buy firearms or pay a tax". "Buy low sugar, low fat foods or pay a tax"

And this is the best part:

Obama: "This is not a tax"

Supreme Court: "This is a tax"

this is exactly what theyre saying at fox news, just so you're aware of what level your "critical thought" abilities are operating at

the more you know

[Dacbane]

i hope this makes vicodin cheaper.

[Hitchens]

Was happy to just have a ruling. Now the anti-ACA protesters can go sit in the crazy corner with the anti-abortion protesters and life can go on.

[FoxxHound]

i hope this makes percocet cheaper.

[MrSparkle001]

this is exactly what theyre saying at fox news, just so you're aware of what level your "critical thought" abilities are operating at

the more you know

Are you saying that because I'm conservative I can't think critically?

You're sounding like someone who watches The Daily Show and The Young Turks you know.

[Slathar]

Are you saying that because I'm conservative I can't think critically?

You're sounding like someone who watches The Daily Show and The Young Turks you know.

i dont give a fuck about either of those shows. i watch neither. i don't care if someone is conservative or liberal because they're essentially the same thing in the united states of amerikkka.

all i said is that you're just repeating something you saw on television. i don't care about your political leanings. i find your primitive brain amusing. and it isn't critical thinking if you're just repeating something you saw on a television show.

[Hitchens]

Are you saying that because I'm conservative I can't think critically?

Why I Am Not A Conservative, by F.A. Hayek (http://hem.passagen.se/nicb/cons.htm)

[jjgerman]

you guys are all retarded


conservative just means "small government"

liberal means "big government"



There is no "conservative" party anymore.

They are referring to government spending. Not the ethical sense of the term.

[Hitchens]

Conservative does not mean small government because conservatives are industrial protectionists. They are also fine with federal coercion if the coercion falls in line with their philosophy.

I think it would be more accurate to say there is no classical liberal party anymore.

[jjgerman]

conservative""""" spending = lower amount

liberal """""""spending = higher amount



its not that complex.


Whatever the media has led people to believe these terms mean, is irrelevant. Or what people are in what party.
Look at the bottom line.

Who is spending what.

If you believe a crippled 8 year old is in the NFL, be my guest .

Just trying to learn ya some wisdom---

[Hitchens]

Conservative spending is not a lower amount, conservative rhetoric is simply about lower spending. Both major parties have absolutely no problem with government spending, they only disagree with what it should be spent on.

[jjgerman]

Conservative spending is not a lower amount, conservative rhetoric is simply about lower spending. Both major parties have absolutely no problem with government spending, they only disagree with what it should be spent on.



Great, we agree then.

There is no conservative party. Just liberal, and ultra liberal.

Glad we had this chat.

[Flunklesnarkin]

few people realize that conservatives are considered liberal.. and democrats ultra liberal in the classical sense lol


I think libertarians are the closest thing america has to conservatives.. not they would ever win an election.

their beliefs don't generally appeal to the big money politics of the time.


It's pretty much two groups arguing that their goals deserve to have taxpayer money spent on them.. while the opponents goals are an injustice against taxpaying americans.


not that i'm against taxes for fixing potholes or paying for traffic lights.. but half the shit both republicans and democrats pay for is unnecessary.

[Slathar]

Great, we agree then.

There is no conservative party. Just liberal, and ultra liberal.

Glad we had this chat.

lol'd at this insanity

[Hitchens]

Great, we agree then.

There is no conservative party. Just liberal, and ultra liberal.

Glad we had this chat.

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[quido]

Slathar voted for Obama.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'm still trying to figure out who will do less harm to the country.. obama or romney

kinda sad when the election comes down to that

[Slathar]

Slathar voted for Obama.

false.

edit: im nice

[Lucky]

You're sounding like someone who watches The Daily Show and The Young Turks you know.

John Stewart is a funny guy, but is a government funded mockingbird operative. TYT are Marxist rebels out to take our guns through Trayvon hype and spread the welfare nanny state in a worldwide communist revolution. Both are terrible news sources concurred confirmed.

Since this is a "tax" will the (taxed enough already) TEA party finally revolt?? I got some wal-marts to be lootin

[Kimm Barely]

Barack Obama 2012 - The best president the United States of America has ever seen. I am so proud to be an American on this historic day!

[Autotune]

I just want shit to meet fan and people can start killing each other. I do hope that happens tomorrow.

[pojab]

didnt read, dont care about the politics but LOL OP OWNED

[MrSparkle001]

i dont give a fuck about either of those shows. i watch neither. i don't care if someone is conservative or liberal because they're essentially the same thing in the united states of amerikkka.

all i said is that you're just repeating something you saw on television. i don't care about your political leanings. i find your primitive brain amusing. and it isn't critical thinking if you're just repeating something you saw on a television show.

FYI it's just a coincidence if Fox was saying what I'm saying. The internet is erupting with the same thinking all over the place. You think it all stems from a cable news channel?

What they're not saying is what I'm most concerned about: the precedent this sets. This case will be used to judge future cases, and the court just gave the government the power to do almost anything it wants by taxing. So what if it can't use the commerce clause? It can just impose a tax. Want to force the people to buy something? Penalize them with a tax, the Supreme Court allows it.

It's the precedent that's the problem here, and it's not being talked about.

Since this is a "tax" will the (taxed enough already) TEA party finally revolt?? I got some wal-marts to be lootin

Through the vote, through the vote. It started in about 2009 and it will be ramped up in the next few months. This is seriously angering a lot of people.

Know what else is not being talked about? What the medicaid decision means. States don't have to add all these new low income people to their medicaid rolls now. That was going to be accomplished by penalizing them for not complying but that's not allowed now. States can just say "no", and then what?

[Flunklesnarkin]

The TEA party isn't against taxes.. they are just against taxes that go to programs they don't agree with.


same as democrats and republicans

[Hitchens]

http://i47.tinypic.com/5a9gm.jpg

[MrSparkle001]

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/2011/1011/1011-occupy_wall_street.jpg/10813521-1-eng-US/1011-Occupy_Wall_Street.jpg_full_600.jpg

or "waah people are more successful than me"

What is with people wanting the government to give them things these days? What happened to this country?

[Flunklesnarkin]

people are going at companies a bit hard


but some companies have been doing shady shit for years.. where do you think all the old school mafia bosses moved onto.. wallstreet


here is a good summary of the latest investigation of wall street municipal bond bid rigging over the past 12 years to steal money from cities, counties, and schools.

even had their own codespeak like the mafia lol


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-scam-wall-street-learned-from-the-mafia-20120620

[Slathar]

i hope america implodes and becomes the third world nightmare it deserves to be

[Asher]

Can someone explain to me why anyone in the middle class would not want affordable health care? Health care for my family would cost me about $1k a month through my company. I would rather have my taxes increased. There is no way they are going to tax me 1k a month.

Is it not in a country's best interest to have healthy people that can live long and have children that will all grow up and be paying taxes back into the system? How can I work hard, live long and pay my taxes if I am not healthy?

Asher

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'm no healthcare law expert or anything.. but it can be crazy expensive if you have pre-existing conditions


my brother's wife has had diabetes from birth and he is always complaining about how his health insurance costs about the same each month as his house payment.


there are examples out there which I don't care to dig up atm.. i do remember reading about how having health insurance doesn't even lower your medical bills sometimes.


this one lady wrote about her experience getting some xrays and it would have cost here like 1 thousand dollars had she paid out of pocket but with insurance it cost here 2k (that was her copay) and they charged more against the insurance.


overcharging is the main reason hospitals and health insurance companies are against provisions requiring them to provide a list of prices for the 100 most used services at a hospital.

[booter]

Can someone explain to me why anyone in the middle class would not want affordable health care?

Because ARE FREEDOMS! http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-bahgawd.gif http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-911.gif

[Knuckle]

lots of political faggotry in this thread.

[Slathar]

lots of political faggotry in this thread.

politiks r gye

when is the next sporting event so i can forget how awful my life is for 90 minutes

[Knuckle]

politiks r gye

when is the next sporting event so i can forget how awful my life is for 90 minutes

everquest is the only sport

[Yardcore]

lots of political faggotry in this thread.

[MrSparkle001]

lots of political faggotry in this thread.

You know you love it.

10:42 of this video people: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/48015300#48015300. Hundreds of billions of dollars in increased taxes. Hooray.

[Slathar]

You know you love it.

10:42 of this video people: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/48015300#48015300. Hundreds of billions of dollars in increased taxes. Hooray.

good. i hope this bill forces you into bankruptcy as i casually stroll into the emergency room on a tuesday afternoon for some diagnosis on a scratch i got while picking up my unemployment. thanks america taxpayers (fat)

[MrSparkle001]

good. i hope this bill forces you into bankruptcy as i casually stroll into the emergency room on a tuesday afternoon for some diagnosis on a scratch i got while picking up my unemployment. thanks america taxpayers (fat)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2545/likeabosst.jpg

[Flunklesnarkin]

Obama gots the taxes covered


HUNDRED DOLLA BILLZ YALL

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