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heartbrand
06-26-2012, 05:55 PM
Since I keep hearing Kunark is going to save the server classic is cashed etc. etc. I just wanted to see truly how many people are on the sidelines waiting for that Kunark.

Moda
06-26-2012, 06:01 PM
Not like it could hurt...

SearyxTZ
06-26-2012, 06:03 PM
If it doesn't increase the # of players pretty drastically then it actually will hurt (+ zones and + more grind)

Dacuk
06-26-2012, 06:29 PM
I would vote for this option if it existed: Would come back and check it out, but unsure if I would stay.

Would come back and stay if there was a HUGE step up in the available pvp for casual players, Rogean interaction, events, reasonable xp. Would come back and likely leave if that was not the case.

Dullah
06-26-2012, 06:40 PM
If you had any balls, you'd have made it transparent to see all the troll accounts that vote against kunark.

No one could ever accuse you of being honest though.

Dekadenz
06-26-2012, 06:42 PM
If you had any balls, you'd have made it transparent to see all the troll accounts that vote against kunark.

You can see the results and who voted for what, no one is padding any of these polls it's so blatant. These are the results by and for the people.

Get with the times, rookie

Tr0llb0rn
06-26-2012, 06:46 PM
You can see the results and who voted for what, no one is padding any of these polls it's so blatant. These are the results by and for the people.

Get with the times, rookie

new troll move: create new accounts hijacking in game names. Creative.


as for all these dumb polls and "wipes": never gonna happen, suck it up and play or MOVE ON.

Dekadenz
06-26-2012, 06:49 PM
new troll move: create new accounts hijacking in game names. Creative.

New?

as for all these dumb polls and "wipes": never gonna happen, suck it up and play or MOVE ON.

These are polls by and for the people - you've voted yourself in them so if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all. There are only 2 things guaranteed in life: death and taxes. The purpose for the polls are to see what the community thinks (because they sure as shit ain't playing, and that's telling enough).

Tr0llb0rn
06-26-2012, 06:50 PM
who cares, server never gonna be wiped

Dekadenz
06-26-2012, 06:53 PM
who cares, server never gonna be wiped

So far: the 14 people (including yourself) who have voted in this poll and the 30 in the other. And I'll add, that 14 players is almost double the amount listed as online the server currently:

http://i49.tinypic.com/s4utfm.png

I'll also add that this poll is worded very poorly and inviting for fraudulent "yes" votes from players like Mellowyellow, who are still playing and thus should not be counted as "returning" if kunark is released.

It's all in the details, folks.

Dullah
06-26-2012, 06:56 PM
You can see the results and who voted for what, no one is padding any of these polls it's so blatant. These are the results by and for the people.

Get with the times, rookie

We can't see who votes...

No one would ever troll a forum, says cast.

Dekadenz
06-26-2012, 07:02 PM
We can't see who votes...


Click the individual number under votes and it tells you who voted for what, your welcome.

Dullah
06-26-2012, 07:03 PM
Even with trolls and butthurts trying to prove a point, those in some way in favor of kunark are crushing those against it.

SearyxTZ
06-26-2012, 07:06 PM
math clearly isn't your strong suit pal =(

Dullah
06-26-2012, 07:07 PM
9 v 6 jackass

Dekadenz
06-26-2012, 07:12 PM
this poll is worded very poorly and inviting for fraudulent "yes" votes from players like Mellowyellow, who are still playing and thus should not be counted as "returning" if kunark is released.

this poll is worded very poorly and inviting for fraudulent "yes" votes from players like Mellowyellow, who are still playing and thus should not be counted as "returning" if kunark is released.

Looks to me like all of the "yes" votes are players who still play, as you would expect them to vote. Poorly worded and by no means any barometer for the community at large.

SearyxTZ
06-26-2012, 07:17 PM
9 v 6 jackass


Listen, profanity isn't necessary. We're all friends here. :(

"dick around but ultimately quit" is a vote of non-confidence. I see 6-12 currently. Interestingly enough, these numbers added together is still smaller than the average Nihilum raid turnout.

Dullah
06-26-2012, 07:19 PM
People coming back are people coming back. If theres actually players, its likely people will actually stay, regardless of their confidence now.

Lucky
06-26-2012, 07:23 PM
just skip to luclin

SearyxTZ
06-26-2012, 07:35 PM
legacy of ykesha + slower exp + AA points + safe zones + keyed instanced dungeons plz


The Ultimate Solution

SearyxTZ
06-26-2012, 07:36 PM
also let's be sure to use Voidd's complex food and water system

heartbrand
06-26-2012, 07:43 PM
for those who voted yes i'd like to point out you can't return if you're already here

Dullah
06-26-2012, 07:45 PM
None of us would be here more than a few more weeks if it wasn't for kunark.

heartbrand
06-26-2012, 08:13 PM
Pretty sure mellowyellow and battle will be here till the day the world ends

Moda
06-26-2012, 08:20 PM
If it doesn't increase the # of players pretty drastically then it actually will hurt (+ zones and + more grind)

So the population will drop from a 10 average to a 5 average? Dead server will still be dead.

I'd rather wipe it and release Kunark with a new server that has a few adjustments (somewhere between 69/99 exp curve, teams etc)

jdklaw
06-27-2012, 12:48 AM
+ Kunark + Hotzones + YT

Legacy is a lot of fun for what it is, but its broken as fuck and far from being refined.

heartbrand
06-27-2012, 12:58 AM
so far of the 8 people who said yes, 6 of them currently play on the server already, kunark looking really promising to bring back hundreds of lost players

Dullah
06-27-2012, 01:03 AM
Yes, and except for 1, maybe 2 people who voted against kunark were part of the crowd who shouted burn it down from the second their toons corpses lay lifeless on the cold ground of norrath, at which time it occurred to them they just didn't have what it takes to win this box.

Moda
06-27-2012, 10:28 PM
I haven't been killed by Nihilum, I just want an active server and hoping and praying this server somehow picks up rather than limping along as your personal raidbox is pretty lol..

Dullah
06-27-2012, 10:44 PM
Nothing stopping anyone from logging in. Nothing would change with a wipe, would still be same stale content, would still be boring as fuck for everyone that doesn't want to raid, would still be completely pointless to pvp after the removal of legacy. Without something to fight over, or some manufactured reasons to pvp (leaderboards, pvp vendors), only content can provide that reason.

Dullah
06-28-2012, 01:07 AM
What is this food and water system?

Nirgon
06-28-2012, 01:09 AM
So how is shit stale for the 600 or so people that never came into fear or hate or sky here?

Sounds like someone just wants Kunark so they can finish some 13 year old raid content (sky etc lawlies).

Dullah
06-28-2012, 02:06 AM
Lotta peoples made it plain they don't want to spend large amounts of time farming.

Unfortunately, that leaves nothing else to fight over after a few months of classic. You know this.

y u troll me

Dullah
06-28-2012, 02:08 AM
Kunark isn't really so much about the raid content. Lots of cool dungeons and neat pixels to fight over. Eventually theres VP, that sounds cool, but thats down the road.

Moda
06-28-2012, 06:44 AM
Yeah I'm a big fan of Kunark but I'm doubtful it would do enough to cause enough momentum to end the cycle the server is currently in.

Dullah
06-28-2012, 02:45 PM
Well, its either compromise the server reputation with a wipe that will only provide a temporary, and even smaller burst of players than launch, or hope some fixes, new features and kunark will provide the boost.

Either way, crying on the sideline does nothing. Esp those who stand by shouting for a wipe purely out of spite towards Nihilum and their accomplishments over you.

SamwiseBanned
06-28-2012, 02:57 PM
Poll results. 14 Nilly want Kunark, 11 others have moved on, 5 people wanna roll iksars and the rest get it, we all need to let the server die so it may be reborn again.

Tr0llb0rn
06-28-2012, 03:07 PM
sorry sam, but that is not in the cards:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=630552&postcount=134

[16:05] <&Rogean> yea not sure what they got used to on vztz but we don't wipe anything here
[16:05] <&Rogean> to do so would set the precedent that peoples' characters aren't safe from vanishing, which is bad for any server
[16:06] <&Rogean> will absolutely never happen
[16:06] <&Rogean> feel free to copy that and paste it in threads on the forums

Its Iksars or bust

MrSparkle001
06-28-2012, 03:12 PM
It's more than Iksars that will prevent a bust (it's already a bust). Kunark will not be enough.

SamwiseBanned
06-28-2012, 03:41 PM
just selected best choice for server. i know there will be no wipe. server was fun. good times.

Nirgon
06-28-2012, 04:17 PM
Yeah big shock the people who love it here so much want tons more content to farm because they're bored....? What kind of oxymoron dumb fuckery is this?

How about we get some fixes in place then worry about Kunark.

I can see a few people come back with "hey Kunark is out!" but more coming back with "hey you don't get chain rooted at 80 MR anymore, even by mage pets, we took care of whirl too!".

Tassador
06-28-2012, 04:20 PM
i would think wipe. 20 people in black burrow in a pvp server = fun fun in the sun.

Dullah
06-28-2012, 04:27 PM
Nirgon, you don't get chain rooted or snared any more. That fix, at least, is in place. It takes 80 mr to resist root reliably, 100 is just about guaranteed.

Arillious
06-28-2012, 04:41 PM
Spread the remaining 12 players out to a new continent with huge zones?

Nirgon
06-28-2012, 05:37 PM
Nirgon, you don't get chain rooted or snared any more. That fix, at least, is in place. It takes 80 mr to resist root reliably, 100 is just about guaranteed.

Yeah a twink in full crafted magic jewelry, hollowed bone bracers with a magic resist buff getting chain rooted by a mage pet last I saw. Yeah that was good. No thanks. Root is not a reliable spell, stun/blind are much worse, and whirl is impossible. Lemme know, it's not the case. Having a free farm of hate for gems (along with virtually no pvp) changes the resist perspective some I'm sure.

Dullah
06-28-2012, 05:43 PM
Hasn't been like that since 2 patches back brosephus.

Just saying.

Nirgon
06-28-2012, 05:52 PM
Put on say... 45mr.

Show me a parse of whirl (no tash, 45mr is fine here) and mage pet roots.

0 should land at lvl 50. I'm not interested in "well one in 20" stuff because 3 people spamming shit on you = guaranteed basically.