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Kilbur
06-20-2012, 06:43 PM
Are we done coming to a project 1999 server/ forums to complain about stupid shit?.. What does project 1999 mean.. Sure as hell doesn't mean : yellow text, leaderboards, fast exp, global ooc, no waiting for boats... Timed charm? Help me out with the rest but here is the point.. You cry babies want all this shit added yet you forget what the fucking server is based off of.. CLASSIC PVP.. Unless you clowns were 5 years old when this shit came out you would know we had none of this.. Enjoy the server or leave.. Still dont see a reason why the devs have to respond to every retard trying to change a classic server around when it's fine how it is... I dont remember sending a GM a fucking tell in 1999 and it's not needed here either.... So you either got what it takes to play a classic game Or you have been brainwashed by fast paced world of warcraft games and like shit servers that cater to little kids who cant hang so they bitch all day on the forums trying to bring down everyone else wanting to play here.. The devs have done nothing wrong.. The problem is shit community we have playing here.. Bunch of tools going back and forth to each other on forums about the stupidest shit. Lol. Suck it up and play.. WTF is the problem?? Did we like skip life all together these past 12 years?? Grow the fuck up and have a little fun.. Enjoy what u got cause all The new games are shit.
Kilbur
06-20-2012, 06:44 PM
My bored at work rant for you guys.. Thanks for reading lol
Tr0llb0rn
06-20-2012, 06:51 PM
You speak very deep , sublime, and eternal truths Kilbur. I hope your words of wisdom can get through to all those founding fathers who fled in search of ez'ier pixles on EZ69
Andis, this is your wake up call. Red99 is the only and 99.9999 percent last legit classic red EQ server that is ever going to be. Do you really want your last action on it getting rolled for 5 hours straight in lavastorm and failing to kill even a single raid target?
Not a good look bro, not a good look. History about to pass you by.
Galilao
06-20-2012, 06:54 PM
Sounding a bit desperate/mad, FFA PVP server was a bust time to move on.
Some think teams would be better, maybe some day.
Tr0llb0rn
06-20-2012, 06:57 PM
Galilao , please get back to blue99 and continue your discusions on if its better to camp for 3 days in a cave waiting for something to spawn or not.
We are talking about red stuff here.
Galilao
06-20-2012, 07:02 PM
Yeah dog I heard there is tons of pvp on red lately.
Probably more pvp on blue in EC duels then the 15 people on red lol
Dullah
06-20-2012, 07:09 PM
Teams hasn't offered anything that could even hypothetically help the server.
One of the biggest gripes about the server is the lack of pvp, and that would reduce potential pvp by 33-50% depending if it was 2 or 3 team.
All the "objectives" that people claim they have as part of a faction are immediately gained upon joining a guild. Voila, wtf?
Theres nothing more that can be gained by changes to rulesets. The people that claim they want "moar peeveepee" can't be pleased by teams (if more pvp isn't just an excuse - which it is). People who claim they want item loot would end up fleeing the server faster than Holo and FF upon dying and losing anything of value.
The server is what it is. Exp is currently on bonus; there was just a bonus weekend, and kunark should be open shortly. Play or don't.
Galilao
06-20-2012, 07:11 PM
There is no guilds to join, there is no population to form new guilds.
FFA has failed.
Dullah
06-20-2012, 07:16 PM
Now FFA ruleset is to blame. If you weren't just trolling, you clowns could have gotten together by now and decided once and for all what really ails the server.
Galilao
06-20-2012, 07:22 PM
Nothing is to "blame" just the facts are this is basically unplayable by most standards. I mean EQ is just not fun to me and I would guess many others with under 100 people playing not to mention under 20.
Whatever it would take to make the population go over 100 and mantain that population is what I would be in favor of. Trying some different things like teams (which is classic) couldn't possibly have a lower population then there is now.
Not really in favor of un-classic changes like increased exp or YT, but if it's whats required to mantain ANY kind of pop then I guess I would get behind it
Tradesonred
06-20-2012, 07:29 PM
Its the pvp xp loss, stupid.
SearyxTZ
06-20-2012, 07:34 PM
The only things I've ever pushed for are design considerations made for the lower population, and increased staff/dev interaction and moderation on the forums (for obvious reasons). I try to do this without disrespecting them too much because I do appreciate what they are providing here for free.
Not everyone is a selfish brat trying to get their way. Some are looking at the big picture with genuine concern (ie: what will make it most successful for the majority of potential players).
I never really personally cared about the exp rate in itself, for example. I did care that the lower level zones were completely empty (read: NOT classic) and that a huge number of players from TZ/VZTZ were quitting because they hated the exp grind coupled with the lack of player interaction. It's not really that complicated. Most people aren't going to play what was remembered as a highly socially interactive MMO on a server where you are forced to grind by yourself 99% of the time. Maybe the former necro players and the guys who were already 50 seven months ago are still enjoying it, but that's obviously a small number of players.
This isn't to excuse the trolls who shit all over the forums intentionally - just pointing out that there are valid points of feedback here.
Kaahbal
06-20-2012, 07:44 PM
It's not really that complicated. People aren't going to play what was remembered as a highly socially interactive MMO on a server where you are forced to grind by yourself 99% of the time.
+1
Tradesonred
06-20-2012, 08:18 PM
Not everyone is a selfish brat trying to get their way. Some are looking at the big picture with genuine concern (ie: what will make it most successful for the majority of potential players).
If that was a crack at me, I AM looking at the big picture and whats best for the server. Its just that i dont think devs agree with me and core pop doesnt wanna let go of the major advantage they get over new fishes through xp loss in pvp.
I am kind of annoying but i know im right, Rallos was a blast cuz of the constant pvp. Here its not a blast if you aint got a big crew, youll get owned by twinks and zergs. On rallos it would happen as well, but you could do it all day and get better at it without losing xp. You could lose gear but everyone rolled around with no drop gear/naked or they were hardcore twinks that were fun to take down as a group of noob because of a nice piece of gear.
Badmartigan being an example of people running around naked pvping all day.
PVP xp loss only advantages zergs, so unless you come here with 10 of your buddies you can expect them to leave the server pronto.
Kunark will not help, youll see a pop increase for a while then it will drop again.
SamwiseBanned
06-20-2012, 08:38 PM
you get what you put in and people get what they deserve
Just a crazy time sink, I play for pvp and the amount of time required to level/camp shit to become pvp capable makes me want to puke to think of what I went through - back on a couple thousand pop server I could log on and pvp for hours but here it's just the same handful of people you're fighting over and over, the same shit talk - very little quality as far as dedicated pve leadership other than Nihilum. I hate to say it but without several guilds capable of doing raid mobs, it just creates a stagnant server - and I definately don't have the patience, time and probably the talent to suffer through the hand holding that would be required.
I remember TZ there was probably what, Kotwr/Sotg/Aotl/PDM/lex invictus/FOI and so many smaller but still decently active guilds that are too many to list, obviously some more dominant than others, but it made a fun variety/mix into the server and not just the same old shit.
People crying about the exp rate especially is because it's just too boring to grind to 50, let alone nearly impossible for several melee, RIP titanuk/Naikon - need more people at 50 and maybe would lead to more competent people at 50 who wouldn't be sucked in by the only raid capable guild on the server.
Just to add, Holo had a lot of talented gamers who could easily do the task, but didn't have the time or desire to - and we were basically a captainless ship since the get go heh.
SamwiseBanned
06-20-2012, 08:48 PM
i dont get why anyone still mad. unless you want hard coded teams there is a server for you. there is ez99 where xp is slightly increased but absolutely no pvp or competition. then ther eis ez69 where there is super increased xp to the point of lol but plenty of pvp and competition. Everyone for ffa should be happy.
SamwiseBanned
06-20-2012, 10:03 PM
ez99, ez69, you decide.
Dacuk
06-21-2012, 02:25 AM
the true butthurt are those that take time out of their lives to give someone a hard time on an internet forum about a decision they make for themselves. so funny. people quit because they no longer have interest in something, and then other people obsess over it claiming the people that quit are butthurt, but in reality they are just moving on to other shit in life that they enjoy, while some poor fool is foaming at the mouth on a message board to someone that just doesnt care.
not that i've quit, just find this extremely entertaining.
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 10:34 AM
Its not called obsessing, its called gloating.
And after vaquishing and exiling the two so called "pvp guilds" (holobad and FF), Nihilum has the right to gloat. Deal with it.
Dont make me post your spiritual leaders Cast's "computer how do I win the box" post again.....
We won, you scrubs lost. Deal-with-it.
We get the legit box with the good code, you get the lolbox with the hack infested ezmode code. Deal-with-it.
Very elementary my dear watson.
The final and last test of classic red EQ has come and gone. The verdict: Nihilum reigns supreme.
Deal-with-it.
SamwiseBanned
06-21-2012, 10:45 AM
gratz for winning ez99 :D
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 10:53 AM
gratz for winning ez99 :D
why thank you, come to think of it over these past 8 months... it WAS pretty ez.
SamwiseBanned
06-21-2012, 11:01 AM
yup a little too easy
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 11:15 AM
well, not for those that did not break 35 (or did you get to 36?). little too hard for them.
But for us, yeah, was like taking candy from a baby. Lickin on that lollipop now, mmmm so so good.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=668793&postcount=1
SamwiseBanned
06-21-2012, 11:22 AM
i had fun and left on good terms with Bristlebane. I feel like an Olympic champion
Abysal
06-21-2012, 11:24 AM
Not even sure who trollborn is , just another random piece of trash, the only decent pvpers in Nihilum were oddjob and hijinx but I digress to my real thought / reason to post.
Amuk, I had the exact conversation about what you just posted with Dacuk a few days back regarding need for multiple guilds to be constantly raiding to have meaningful pvp.
The real thrill for me and some of my guildies Ive spoken to in EQ is mass pvp over raid targets. The problem is we arent ages 14-17 anymore and many players on red99 dont have the time to raid everynight for pixels thus generating fun mass 10v10+ pvp situations. Being on such a low population server compared to LIVE eq where you could log in anytime and find 20+ guildies on and go get some mass pvp is rough. which brings up my next thought on Kilbur/Searyx oppossing views on added content / xp rate / support from staff.
Kilbur I agree with you 100% on your thinking that the games these days compared to EQ are shit and the difficulty of eq truly makes it amazing but, like searyx or someone mentioned this population is LOW as fuck compared to live and with that playing a warrior, monk, rogue, without a bunch of RL friends literally makes you want to quit after a week of grinding lightblues solo. I watched many people roll melees and quit FAST or reroll to wiz/dru/bard which is fine but I think to have all classes be relatively equally played the devs should and did add xp mods because there just isnt enough population to be real EQ bud. On live you could log into sebilis shout LFG and pick up a group within 20minutes there or karnor or HS no problem. On red99 you go to guk your dead within 5 minutes as a melee back to doing shit alone shouting for a port then logging off. You all watched it happen. As for playing red69/legacy of zek yeah its easy to lvl, yes there is also global ooc and bugs to all hell but you know what? Theres pvp too, good luck finding any on red99 with 15 pop prime time, other than maybe some nihilum beating off each others cocks in air plane.
I love the Code on red99 and i wish the population could stay a 150ish forever but it didnt and if it does ill be back and i know some of my FF guildies will be back too.
And you know whats funny too is that maybe you weren't there or many just noone knows you Trollborn, but before FF quit red99 there was a solid week of PVP of Naggy and with GMs like sirken / Amelinda ghosting/watching you bluebie retards get shitcanned and then ragelogging hourish after every single night. 14 plus people on both sides fun as fuck either way but you lost bad, 2 nights with less then 3 deaths on our side after it was said and done. Either way we didnt kill naggy ...oh well lol, we killed you and that why we came. Enjoy those pixels that failed you in 90% of all 10v10+ situations versus FF/pals including the last and most hilarious one In west karana @Qhills zoneline where you guys were flawlessly crushed and laughed at. Server is dead for now (
SamwiseBanned
06-21-2012, 11:25 AM
ill admit im checking out blue. never rolled there and wanted to play eq with a good population. ive met a few Nihilum alts but they wouldnt tell me who. were complaining about answered the batphone for sky lol. anyhow mellow since i congratulated you on the win can you hook a brotha up on blue?
jdklaw
06-21-2012, 11:37 AM
Good post by Abysal minus the shit talking, but its accepted since we are enemies since mid 30s ;P
Ive also dirty my weiner on legacy, but the server is such a joke its like a retard coded it and i'm on there mostly to troll ooc and watch funny YT's and shit talk. I agree the YT and whatnot make a funner PvP experience and should be the next thing implemented on red, but really is not 100% necessary... Also, the XP there is WAY too fast, people have naked level 50s......... O, and I see a lot of massive item farming from those who claim they want to PvP and dont give a fuck about pixels lol.
We all know the population is the problem. And we all agreed that the funnest times had were FF v Nihilum at SolB, with both sides winning and losing mind you. The difference was that Nihilum would still log on the next day after a defeat, and FF didn't...
With the issue being a steady population on the best coded server, why split it up? Why did Holocaust leave red to go to legacy where the numbers are equal with boxing?
I know you guys played VZTZ for X years and became accustomed to the easiness of it, the quick leveling and easy item loots because of a poorly coded box, but if those who quit returned to red, the pop would be back to 100's (FF + NIHI + IF). The Pop decline snowballed with a few quitting, their friends quitting, their friends quitting, randoms quitting because of decline...
I'm pretty confident Kunark will bring back the majority, and a handful of those saying it won't know as well because they are still auctioning in anticipation for it; but it would be nice if we could all have fun on the same quality box.
BTW after the double xp weekend, Rogean hopped on to turn OOC back on and did a +50% boost ontop of the scaled XP, it's still in place and I hope its permanent. Give it a try, it's what YOU all wanted.
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 11:37 AM
"Trollborn was right, Classic Red EQ was just not for me"(
duh
and lol @ "we want pvp over raid targets" and then quitting after the FIRST and only raid target you guys tried to contest (Naggy) and lost on. Grow a backbone.
MorninIPBANNED
06-21-2012, 12:05 PM
i would state my opinion of what i think about you nerds having this same discussion still.. but i dont care and I would probably get another forum ban.
jdklaw
06-21-2012, 12:06 PM
i would state my opinion of what i think about you nerds having this same discussion still.. but i dont care and I would probably get another forum ban.
does care and is mad at having to follow rules
MorninIPBANNED
06-21-2012, 12:18 PM
ya im pretty sad all my pixels are worthless now... bahhhahahaha yea right... shit stomped nihilum in pvp for 6 months.. server won... nothing else to accomplish.
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 12:21 PM
ya im pretty sad all my pixels are worthless now... bahhhahahaha yea right... shit stomped nihilum in pvp for 6 months.. server won... nothing else to accomplish.
server won lolololololol
I see another ban in your future due to massive gross trollin
p.s. you sound very mad and jealous
Dullah
06-21-2012, 02:52 PM
ya im pretty sad all my pixels are worthless now... bahhhahahaha yea right... shit stomped nihilum in pvp for 6 months.. server won... nothing else to accomplish.
Surely you jest.
The typical vent response to seeing you in zone was, "ah, its only Mornin, nothing to worry about."
hagard
06-21-2012, 02:53 PM
Probably more pvp on blue in EC duels then the 15 people on red lol
tb getting dicked down by blubies
Galilao
06-21-2012, 03:04 PM
ez69 > ez99
hagard
06-21-2012, 03:08 PM
R99 5 players online, discuss
SearyxTZ
06-21-2012, 03:10 PM
ForumQuest is 3 times as popular apparently
SearyxTZ
06-21-2012, 03:11 PM
Planar Protectors raiding Plane of Cry on the 7th isle
hagard
06-21-2012, 03:29 PM
R99 5 players online, discuss
Dullah
06-21-2012, 03:35 PM
wtb a reason to log on. kunark, wru?
just crashed, now only 3 people on.
hagard
06-21-2012, 03:39 PM
Crying eyes of veeshan still up 6 months after it is downed u will get Kunark. . . Maybe
Dullah
06-21-2012, 03:58 PM
No way to kill that in classic =(.
Andis
06-21-2012, 03:59 PM
You speak very deep , sublime, and eternal truths Kilbur. I hope your words of wisdom can get through to all those founding fathers who fled in search of ez'ier pixles on EZ69
Andis, this is your wake up call. Red99 is the only and 99.9999 percent last legit classic red EQ server that is ever going to be. Do you really want your last action on it getting rolled for 5 hours straight in lavastorm and failing to kill even a single raid target?
The last action that happened b/w FF and Nihi was the week long contest in solb for Naggy...let me sum it up real quick...all the loot that you guys acquired from the start, did nothing for you...you ask why? cuz Fair Fighters ass-rolled you guys , not once but all those fights, sometimes multiple fights per day ...the biggest fights the server ever saw...and why was it so fun? one word PvP
why did FF stop logging on? there is no other competition. period. the end. Couple days ago logged in one day for shits, 4 v 4 in lavastorm, and what happened?? yet another FF victory...kinda gets old after a bit guys hahahah. All your responses revolve around PvE...this red server is not for you guys, take your PvE talk back to Bluebie Red, cuz you are no match for the PVP legends that you have witnessed
you were in the presence of greatness, now bow your heads.
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 04:07 PM
I see you blocked those horrible visions of getting CCed for five hours around lavastorm out of your head. You know, that evil night that you never recovered from.. never saw more then 4 FFs on again after that.
I dont want to push you over the edge into insanity, so I wont open that deep dark wound for you.
Yet another pack of noobs who's corpses looked on as we Slew the Dragon and looted those cloaks of flame, just like holobad before you. Both groups vanquished and exiled from the only legit red box this world will see.
Andis
06-21-2012, 04:11 PM
the day you CC me for 5 hours, let alone 5 mins, is the day I quit EQ.
Trollborn = Mellowyellow. enough said.
Dullah
06-21-2012, 04:11 PM
Denial off the charts.
Sorry I couldn't be online the entire "week" you guys reigned supreme. I was however there while I sat on 10+ of your corpses in lavastorm for 5 hours.
Dullah
06-21-2012, 04:12 PM
the day you CC me for 5 hours, let alone 5 mins, is the day I quit EQ.
Trollborn = Mellowyellow. enough said.
Obviously that day came and went, and sure enough, you quit legit EQ.
MorninIPBANNED
06-21-2012, 04:14 PM
what makes u think anyone will come back for kunark? 51-60 is not easy by no means with classic exp... gonna put urself thru hell leveling all that time for what? to be 60 on a 5 person box.. Nihilum can claim victory of this box... you won nothing but worthless pixels.. gg
Andis
06-21-2012, 04:16 PM
Denial off the charts.
Sorry I couldn't be online the entire "week" you guys reigned supreme. I was however there while I sat on 10+ of your corpses in lavastorm for 5 hours.
ROFL your 10 is really 4 corpses. We PvPed you terribad players for lawls, completely outnumbered, YET AGAIN...you guys win tho your right.. bahahaha
Andis
06-21-2012, 04:19 PM
but what I will congratulate you guys for is one thing. Personally ruining this server that had such great potential. How you ask? by recruiting so many mindless, worthless players that eventually ate up the whole population...take a second, let it sink in
Dullah
06-21-2012, 04:20 PM
Seems to me thats more or less the objective in any video game...
Theres plenty of stuff to do and compete over on kunark. It will give players of every level a reason to play.
MorninIPBANNED
06-21-2012, 04:34 PM
Kunark gives me personally no reason to play... been done played that content before... no desire to spend idk how many irl days of my life getting from 50-60... only real bonus would be pvping people but guess what... there is no one to pvp... even heartbrand has given up.. seriously... if your playing when tror and heartbrand have given up... need to check yourself...
the problems with this box have been discussed and brought to light from your so called holobad for idk how many months but the bluebie crowd continued to dismiss them and pretend they knew what it took it make a successful pvp box.... No one wanted to admit and deal with the blatant flaws of the server that drove people away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1bIhZO7o3k
Dullah
06-21-2012, 04:53 PM
Tror alive and well. Sky gave us a reason to come back, just like kunark will give everyone else a reason.
SearyxTZ
06-21-2012, 04:57 PM
unless that reason is active pvp, I wouldn't speak for everyone there
Rushmore
06-21-2012, 05:11 PM
BTW after the double xp weekend, Rogean hopped on to turn OOC back on and did a +50% boost ontop of the scaled XP, it's still in place and I hope its permanent. Give it a try, it's what YOU all wanted.
WTF? and still no one is playing? What's the problem now?
WTF? and still no one is playing? What's the problem now?
no one to group with.. i was on the other day with 9 other people... most were nihilum and SK can only solo so well...
i might roll a druid or necro and gimp it up, idk....
Dullah
06-21-2012, 05:30 PM
unless that reason is active pvp, I wouldn't speak for everyone there
People playing on the server = active pvp. You know 1 + 1 does actually equal 2, no?
SearyxTZ
06-21-2012, 05:33 PM
Yes I'm aware of that.
Did you know that there's over 100 zones in Kunark era EQ, some of which take 10 minutes just to run across?
How much time does 1 spend finding the other 1 to make 2, especially with a +/- level restriction? Maybe you can research this and let me know.
SearyxTZ
06-21-2012, 05:36 PM
But if they are actually sticking the exp bonus permanently then that's encouraging.
Dullah
06-21-2012, 05:40 PM
The vast majority will focus on the major dungeons. Sure you can hide from pvp, you could easily do that on live as well, but the competition is always going to be over dungeons and "pixels" that give you that advantage in pvp. Especially early on when kunark legacy is out, it won't be hard to find people.
Galilao
06-21-2012, 05:42 PM
Population has actually dropped since sky launch, content is obv not the solution.
Dullah
06-21-2012, 05:44 PM
But if they are actually sticking the exp bonus permanently then that's encouraging.
Ya man, I hope they do.
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 05:51 PM
WTF? and still no one is playing? What's the problem now?
exactly, it was never about xp.
I think it has more to do with many of the people who came to this box have a bad attitude in general. "I'f im not winning the box, im not gonna play it" type deal.
The people who left cant stand not being the top guild, nor do they want to put the effort into knocking Nihilum out of that place. They'd rather not play at all.
heartbrand
06-21-2012, 06:03 PM
The server can't come back at this point beyond being a solo box for one guild and the same old five-six people who decide to try red for a week then quit. The good will is gone, the first / second / third / fourth impressions already made, the only way to get people back is to wipe and start with all this shit in from the get go + kunark. The only thing short of that is maybe some sort of MASSIVE PR effort by Rogean trying to sell kunark as a "new start" with better communication and shit, but honestly, I give a wipe a much better chance at happening than that.
SearyxTZ
06-21-2012, 07:00 PM
The only thing short of that is maybe some sort of MASSIVE PR effort by Rogean trying to sell kunark as a "new start" with better communication and shit, but honestly, I give a wipe a much better chance at happening than that.
This is about right.
If this new exp rate is sticking, I'm not opposed to driving this server like I did several months ago and getting my own crew playing, but I'm not going to be the only guy doing that (like I was). I'm not gonna advertise and play here if everybody else is committed to saying it sucks and is dead.
If other big coaches want to go in with me on that then maybe we can revive it. I doubt Rogean is ever going to do PR for this (he doesn't even post here?) and I also doubt he will ever pull the plug / wipe, so it's up to what's left of the player community.
SamwiseBanned
06-21-2012, 07:24 PM
waiting for a box guru to launch sz99.
Silikten
06-21-2012, 07:27 PM
You speak very deep , sublime, and eternal truths Kilbur. I hope your words of wisdom can get through to all those founding fathers who fled in search of ez'ier pixles on EZ69
Andis, this is your wake up call. Red99 is the only and 99.9999 percent last legit classic red EQ server that is ever going to be. Do you really want your last action on it getting rolled for 5 hours straight in lavastorm and failing to kill even a single raid target?
Not a good look bro, not a good look. History about to pass you by.
Why kill the raid targets if we don't need there loot? Nihilum died all the same while using no haste items, advisor robes, and jagged bands.
SamwiseBanned
06-21-2012, 07:29 PM
ez99 is so hard when you are the only guild on a pvp server. its rough out there.
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 07:43 PM
ez99 is so hard when you are the only guild on a pvp server. its rough out there.
been ez from day 1 till now, can't understand why everyone else found it so hard :(
any idea sam?
Galilao
06-21-2012, 07:47 PM
who quit because an increased exp and global ooc eq server was too hard?
Tradesonred
06-21-2012, 08:04 PM
but what I will congratulate you guys for is one thing. Personally ruining this server that had such great potential. How you ask? by recruiting so many mindless, worthless players that eventually ate up the whole population...take a second, let it sink in
Its the nature of the xp loss in pvp beast. You cannot blame nihilum for playing the numbers game when it was holocaust who started the ball rolling first and in fact were gloating that they would crush people with numbers. Holocaust got beat at their own game.
What i blame nihilum for though (or most of them that ive seen post), is being unable to look past their benefit for a vision of long term health for the server population.
Yes, you will crush opposition with numbers, being the dominant guild in PVE because nobody wants to contest content for hours straight and delevel to hell and back.
But would you rather do a 15 man raid daily with nobody else on the server, or would you prefer a healthy server where there is daily pvp to be had for hours?
Im not blaming solely Nihilum either because FF and Holo were happy to have the xp loss as a griefing mechanic.
Its time to wake up and realize that unless this is removed, Kunark will come, pop will rise, Twinks will grief, and it will be back to where we are now lightning fast.
I would consider playing again on the server, but im not wasting my time on a server where i know the xp loss in pvp favors zergs, griefers and ancients on the server and prevents new blood from settling on the server.
Slathar
06-21-2012, 08:07 PM
IM 1 STEP CLOSER 2 TO THE EDGE N IM ABOUT 2 BREAK
Galilao
06-21-2012, 08:08 PM
lol there is probably 100s of people "considering" including myself, but no one is actually playing the server.
Kinda funny in a sad way.
Tr0llb0rn
06-21-2012, 08:54 PM
ancients on the server and prevents new blood from settling on the server.
I was wondering when this would come up. I knew it would, every excuse under the sun needs to be used before blame gets turned back on those really responsible, the griefers and anti-social nerds who drove away half of that 600 initial release with their random pking, bind camping, griefing,etc.
But anyways, we are not even out of classic yet and already its about "the ancients have too much an advantage!" .. yeah ok.
Either play or dont play. None of you will ever have another legit classic red server again in our life times. Play, or MOVE ON.
No one, least of all Nilbog/rogean, is going to send you flowers in the mail and beg you to play.
SamwiseBanned
06-21-2012, 09:15 PM
tbh mellow i wish i had found out about red99 from the start. i came late dec. I missed the epic battles in q hills. but again ultimately for me was ffa pvp. i played a druid so soloability/xp was never a problem. I am just not a griefer at heart i guess. maybe im a closet bluebie since i am playing on p99 as i write this. can i have some loots mellow? cmon bro let me blue it up.
I would return to this server if Big Searyx asked me to.
Tradesonred
06-21-2012, 10:15 PM
I was wondering when this would come up. I knew it would, every excuse under the sun needs to be used before blame gets turned back on those really responsible, the griefers and anti-social nerds who drove away half of that 600 initial release with their random pking, bind camping, griefing,etc.
But anyways, we are not even out of classic yet and already its about "the ancients have too much an advantage!" .. yeah ok.
Either play or dont play. None of you will ever have another legit classic red server again in our life times. Play, or MOVE ON.
No one, least of all Nilbog/rogean, is going to send you flowers in the mail and beg you to play.
Did you understand where i was getting at with the ancients though? Im an ancient. It means if i roll an alt i can twink it to hell.
The problem with ancients is that they will never, ever lose gear. They will win 90% of 1 vs 1 fights vs new blood. New blood will lose xp, over and over. This will make the server bleed population.
Solution is to put in sets of no drop gear, the kind that was patched in 2001 with the halloween event. So people either roll around naked, with gear they can afford to lose, or take the time to build up a no drop set that gives them at least a chance vs twinks.
Noobs who defeat a twink, maybe by grouping up 3v1 (which gives them something to look forward to) will have a chance to loot a nice piece of gear. They will now decide if they want to wear this piece or trade it for plats to buy say, sow pots to quad.
This will reinvigorate the economy, making people buy and sell again, make pvp interesting again.
And for the finale, of course, remove xp loss and bring the Rallos way of dying which was low health no mana.
This is how i think you could revitalize the server.
Launch Kunark with this and id bet 1000$ that wed see numbers again.
EQtrader
06-22-2012, 03:47 AM
lol at the immersion of you nerds. your playing some nerdy ass game called everquest 13 years after it came out bragging about some items you got from killing some gay ass dragon LOL, you nerds need to get laid or go outside
nego1620
06-22-2012, 07:04 AM
lol there is probably 100s of people "considering" including myself, but no one is actually playing the server.
Kinda funny in a sad way.
Dullah
06-22-2012, 07:18 AM
Can't really blame people at the moment. Takes players for EQ to work, and players need stuff to do. We can only pvp over sol b and guk so many times.
Hopefully that'll change soon and a few more players will log in and motivate the rest to log in as well.
SamwiseBanned
06-22-2012, 10:36 AM
Rehabilitated!? Well now let me see. You know haven't any idea what that means. To me its just a made up word. A politicians word.
Tr0llb0rn
06-22-2012, 10:55 AM
tbh mellow i wish i had found out about red99 from the start. i came late dec. I missed the epic battles in q hills. but again ultimately for me was ffa pvp. i played a druid so soloability/xp was never a problem. I am just not a griefer at heart i guess. maybe im a closet bluebie since i am playing on p99 as i write this. can i have some loots mellow? cmon bro let me blue it up.
Then why diddint you join Spear of the Nation in Dec. instead of trying to grief people in HHK or wtf ever you did.
You have only yourself to blame. Better luck to you in the next life/world/alternate universe when aonther legit red classic box comes around, because this is the last one we will see.
SamwiseBanned
06-22-2012, 10:57 AM
Then why diddint you join Spear of the Nation in Dec. instead of trying to grief people in HHK or wtf ever you did.
You have only yourself to blame. Better luck to you in the next life/world/alternate universe when aonther legit red classic box comes around, because this is the last one we will see.
actually I was planning on joining them, Even talked to Nellodee and Gert a few times about it but towards the end of jan people stopped logging on and I had made friends with Ames and Casey. I wasnt griefing in highkeep. I was killing known griefers and evil races grinding on innocent highkeep guards.
Tr0llb0rn
06-22-2012, 10:58 AM
Did you understand where i was getting at with the ancients though? Im an ancient. It means if i roll an alt i can twink it to hell.
The problem with ancients is that they will never, ever lose gear. They will win 90% of 1 vs 1 fights vs new blood. New blood will lose xp, over and over. This will make the server bleed population.
Solution is to put in sets of no drop gear, the kind that was patched in 2001 with the halloween event. So people either roll around naked, with gear they can afford to lose, or take the time to build up a no drop set that gives them at least a chance vs twinks.
Noobs who defeat a twink, maybe by grouping up 3v1 (which gives them something to look forward to) will have a chance to loot a nice piece of gear. They will now decide if they want to wear this piece or trade it for plats to buy say, sow pots to quad.
This will reinvigorate the economy, making people buy and sell again, make pvp interesting again.
And for the finale, of course, remove xp loss and bring the Rallos way of dying which was low health no mana.
This is how i think you could revitalize the server.
Launch Kunark with this and id bet 1000$ that wed see numbers again.
The "ancients" you are talking about have been griefed off the server. Nihilum dosent run around on dragon twinked alts griefing noobs, thats what holobad and FFers did to help themselves feel better after failing yet another contested raid target (i.e. all of them, for 8 months).
The "ancients" here , help noobs.
You can thank the white knights of Nihilum for this.
Tr0llb0rn
06-22-2012, 11:00 AM
actually I was planning on joining them, Even talked to Nellodee and Gert a few times about it but towards the end of jan people stopped logging on and I had made friends with Ames and Casey. I wasnt griefing in highkeep. I was killing known griefers and evil races grinding on innocent highkeep guards.
Yeah, i guess your "plan" got sidetracked. So instead of helping the server maintain a healthy diverse guild system you just decided to bitch about everything. I've heard it all before.
SamwiseBanned
06-22-2012, 11:02 AM
i aint bitchin maang. well i dont mean to sound like i am. I am actually having a pretty good morning. eating cereal watching micky mouse club house with my son. all is well. gimme a box with no gms, sz ruleset, and a case of green monster and ill play ye box.
Tr0llb0rn
06-22-2012, 11:07 AM
i aint bitchin maang. well i dont mean to sound like i am. I am actually having a pretty good morning. eating cereal watching micky mouse club house with my son. all is well. gimme a box with no gms, sz ruleset, and a case of green monster and ill play ye box.
here we go again.
Rogean/Nilbog built the best box this world will ever see, and 90 percent of you guys nitpick about "omg my life, its not 100 percent like the vision of box paradise in my head!".
Keep dreaming, and bitching about how imperfect the world is, instead of making the best out of what is a damn fine coded and legit box. They ended up giving you guys everything you wanted, /ooc, xp bonus, scaleing level range, guard assist, etc.
And yet....................
oh well, the only people who suffer and miss out are all you bitchers who cant be pleased.
Noble Dojorn downed again last night, gave some items to fresh noobs, did some lowbie grouping with people new to the server, and witnessed the murder/murking of kilbur and party in lower guk. Classic Red EQ happening, those that can do.. those that can't handle... just bitch.
SamwiseBanned
06-22-2012, 11:12 AM
still dont know what noble dojorn is. why get mad that some of us want other things. using that logic i should just play on zek since its better coded and more legit. its why there were different pvp servers on live bro. once sz came out I never logged on rallos again. cant blame me for preferring a ruleset. this was the best pvp box so i accepted certain things but its hard to look past the sub triple digit population.
edit: i think everyone who is going to play on this server is playing. everyone is happy now. /cheers
Tr0llb0rn
06-22-2012, 11:19 AM
still dont know what noble dojorn is. why get mad that some of us want other things. using that logic i should just play on zek since its better coded and more legit. its why there were different pvp servers on live bro. once sz came out I never logged on rallos again. cant blame me for preferring a ruleset. this was the best pvp box so i accepted certain things but its hard to look past the sub triple digit population.
edit: i think everyone who is going to play on this server is playing. everyone is happy now. /cheers
Well the thing is.. Zek actually exists right now so yes you CAN play it. Red99 does too, so play that if you prefer over Zek. Its all good.
But instead you play on neither and just bitch about "omg my life, if only Zek and/or Red99 was different..more like the vision in my head!!!"
p.s. noble dojorn is raid content. Was trying to point out to you that all aspects of EQ life being done on red99. From raid content, to helping lowbies and people new to the sever, to pvp. Its Classic Red EQ, its here if you want it.
But just like you hemming and hawing in Dec. about "omg im not a griefer...but let me just sit here and not join Spear of the Nation" you would rather bitch on the forums instead of partaking and being part of the solution. And by "you" I mean all you feeble forum trolls and EQforumers.
If I was rogean I would 100 percent ignore you lot too. You all are not worthy of what was created. So keep watching and gnashing your teeth. Those of us that like the box are playing.
I only speak the truth.
Nirgon
06-22-2012, 11:58 AM
No way to kill that in classic =(.
Should easily be killable with 10-13 ppl lvl 38-46 like the other raid mobs unless you are a newb, right? Hopefully lots of shaman and druids DPS too.
heartbrand
06-22-2012, 12:00 PM
Should easily be killable with 10-13 ppl lvl 38-46 like the other raid mobs unless you are a newb, right? Hopefully lots of shaman and druids DPS too.
lol'ed
Nirgon
06-22-2012, 12:02 PM
Perfectly classic eye of veeshan easily killable like this. You never played for real.
Hurry up and get that done to unleash the Kunarks.
Dullah
06-22-2012, 02:36 PM
Should easily be killable with 10-13 ppl lvl 38-46 like the other raid mobs unless you are a newb, right? Hopefully lots of shaman and druids DPS too.
There are presently no raid encounters killable by 10-13 lvl 38-46. Perhaps there were in the past, but its no longer the case unless using some sploitz unbeknownst to me.
If bashing the best classic pvp server helps justify, in your own mind, your decision to leave the server, than by all mean do what makes you happy.
Nirgon
06-22-2012, 03:16 PM
Immersion needs to stop right here.
Reason for/justifying leaving holds firm from long ago now. My decision to counter troll remains my own and you are stepping in that line of fire my good sir and I wish you wouldn't.
Tr0llb0rn
06-22-2012, 03:49 PM
Immersion needs to stop right here.
Reason for/justifying leaving holds firm from long ago now. My decision to counter troll remains my own and you are stepping in that line of fire my good sir and I wish you wouldn't.
let the large collection of people in your guild who have been suspended and/or baned be your guide. Server is legit.
Nirgon
06-22-2012, 05:06 PM
Yeah lol clean whistles on the other side of the fence sure
Tradesonred
06-22-2012, 05:55 PM
These prison walls are funny. First you hate 'em, then you get used to 'em. Enough time passes, gets so you depend on them. That's institutionalized. They send you here for life, that's exactly what they take. The part that counts anyways.
First genuine laugh you got out of me fiegi, funny metaphor
SamwiseBanned
06-22-2012, 08:39 PM
First genuine laugh you got out of me fiegi, funny metaphor
this is from shawshank dawg, need to log out every now and then bro.
Tradesonred
06-22-2012, 09:26 PM
this is from shawshank dawg, need to log out every now and then bro.
Thats why it was funny...
Abysal
06-22-2012, 11:35 PM
Final request I have for this server is for Rogean to release Mellowyellow's Kill/death ratio. You can show us how those pixels and your "winning the server" contributed to being a solid PVP player on a RED server. If possible anyone who has more fraps of the 10v10 plus battles over naggy,(i know sirken has 2 lol) to release them so everyone can have one last chuckle as we charged you all holed up in ent of FGs only to be shitstomped nightly.
You can respond now with your bluebie shit and links to Sky loot you trashy faggots
I'd prolly say 1-4 ratio and that's bein nice.
Slathar
06-22-2012, 11:59 PM
so happy the server is dead
Nirgon
06-23-2012, 03:39 AM
I can attest to the fact he was killed 10-20 times on a few separate occasions on his bind while NOT AFK at the fire giants.
Given he's floating around zero to one kills, that would already ruin your estimate.
jdklaw
06-23-2012, 04:31 AM
You can respond now with your bluebie shit and links to Sky loot you trashy faggots
so angry that u ragequit to link the same loots on a shitty hack box
you trashy faggots
Nirgon
06-23-2012, 06:31 AM
Lol got a bite
SearyxTZ
06-23-2012, 06:35 AM
I died over 200 times in Everquest and was a terrible player
Abysal
06-23-2012, 10:42 AM
mellow theres always been pvp on red69 with Circle of tyrants and FF months ago, secondly the loots i have there took 1/5 time to attain which for the amount i can dedicate to EQ is good for me, there is no classic EQ because there is nowhere CLOSE to population of live where you can play any class without having a severe handicap to your ability to lvl up without alot of friends; IE: pure melees, or ability to get around norath without wanting to kill yourself -On live you could find a port within 5-10min.
Enjoy that fake ass classic, I hope the pop comes back and GMs increase communication with players, if so ill come off legacy.
Funny how you dont mention your kill death ration at all bud, I know plenty of chanters with ridiculous amount of kills - Hijinx - Kilbur with 1/10 your deaths.
Nihilum lost 3/5 to 4/5 of all major pvp encounters, 3 major ones in LS, 1 major outside fear by fake wall into CT, 4ish over naggy
Tr0llb0rn
06-23-2012, 11:12 AM
I died over 200 times in Everquest and was a terrible player
and failed to break lvl 40 in 8 months lawl
Classic Red EQ just not for you my friend.
Tr0llb0rn
06-23-2012, 11:21 AM
secondly the loots i have there took 1/5 time to attain
Nihilum lost 3/5 to 4/5 of all major pvp encounters, 3 major ones in LS, 1 major outside fear by fake wall into CT, 4ish over naggy
lol the truth comes out. You could not handle classic legit red EQ, you are not good enough or skilled enough do do 13 year old content and thus got griefed off the box to some shitbox where you can do broken ez content with full hacks enabled, so very sad.
2nd, Nihilum got ALL raid content for 8 months on this legit hack free server, despite scrubs like you "trying" to contest the mobs. Such jokes.. ALL raid targets gotten by Nihilum while the cold glazed over dead eyes of noobs like you looked on. Looked on with them dead corpse eyes while we looted them cloaks of flames, soul leaches, and white dragon scales.
You are about as retarded as people sitting in east commonlands on blue99 /oocing about "well TMO gets all raid content but but but.... we are "really" better" then them anyways durrrr!!"
So you say you are pvp gods? Sorry no one belives. You failed to stop us getting every raid mob for 8 months straight. You failed to defend any raid mob you wanted for 8 months straight. You just... failed.
And now are farming the same loot on ez69 lol... where the content is nice and ez and big bad Nihilum is not there to take the mobs from you.
Failures. Griefed off the Box. Did not have the teamwork, the determination, or the skill to acomplish ANYTHING on the last legit red box this world will see.
The End.
heartbrand
06-23-2012, 11:36 AM
nihilum lost nagafen twice, albeit was killed with the same exploit nihilum used but was taken nonetheless, also we steamrolled you guys in hate and took maestro.
Tr0llb0rn
06-23-2012, 11:48 AM
nihilum lost nagafen twice, albeit was killed with the same exploit nihilum used but was taken nonetheless, also we steamrolled you guys in hate and took maestro.
ahhh I see, so the only two exceptions are:
Nagafen was killed by Holocaust twice useing exploits so gross that it resulted in Rogean himself comming on and broadcasting that Holocast was disbanded and all the officers perma-baned.
and..
Maestro (lol) who is one groupable and on the same level as Phinagel. Sorry I was talking about raid content, not group trash.
The meter of success on a CLASSIC red (legit) server is: who controls the contested content. Only one guild has controlled all the raid content for 8 months straight vs. all contenders.
That guild, that power, is Nihilum
Do not care who "won" some random meaningless battle in lower guk. Do not care who "won" some "group vs group" duel in Feerrot.
All that matters at the end of the day is who is looting 100 percent of the cloaks of flames, soul leaches, and white dragon scales and who is looking on with cold glazed over corpse eyes while said prizes are being looted.
Takes teamwork, backbone, orginization, knowledge/skill at 13 year old content, and pvp power to defend/take the prize from the contenders.
Only one guild has had that recipe for success in the last 8 months. Nihilum
All others are shooting star fires in the dark. Talking big and acomplishing nothing. They have now been vanquished and exiled to a shitbox where they can try and feel like champions too.
I only speak the truth.
Tr0llb0rn
06-23-2012, 11:56 AM
also we steamrolled you guys in hate and took maestro.
p.s. chalk that up to yet another exploit/rule breaking kill too, and it was just group content at that:
Trained in hate, then ported up and sat on bodies + killed maestro.
Nihilum also had to deal with scum bag guilds who resorted to constant training and shadier things in those 8 months of dominating the box. Goes back to having that backbone, good leadership, discipline and skill to persevere. Something the other side(s) did not have.
Hence why they are exiled to a shitbox doing the same "content" (lol if it can be called that, its so broken and ez) 24/7 there that they wish they were allowed to do here.
Now bow down.
jdklaw
06-23-2012, 12:45 PM
i miss killing Abysal in freeport and looting 300plat everytime, thanks for funding my spells from lvl 34 - 49 by not using banks brew
Starting to think Mellow is just very mad instead of trollen.
Abysal
06-23-2012, 10:52 PM
Rettiwalk, you were lvling up @watchman halv in SF when I would port in on you and either kill you or watch you plug into lfay, stop the bullshit bud. Mellow hate to break it to you but because your buddies poopsocked up faster than everyone else ,(whom actually earn a decent living in RL) and defeated all those mighty encounters uncontested does not mean you won server, it means you won pixels that all of us have had manymanymany times before. When we were finally done with our ridiculously slow lvling(by nihi standards), pvp went horrible for you.
Your guilds final kill death ratio is shit. YOUR kill death ratio is shit.
Its perspective though bud, when we fought Nihi in 10v10++ fights you lost roughly 4/5, My above posts lists the fights FF won that standout in my head, please list the ones you remember winning.
Im happy you guys find satisfaction in raiding still and if winning to you guys is logging on 3-4times more than our average member and raiding 3-5 hours a night and scoring phat loot then more power to you.
I consider winning logging on and having fun talking to FF members who for the most part are some great dudes to chill / bullshit with while pvping or whatever for whatever time I can spare, which seems to be less and less.
Tr0llb0rn
06-23-2012, 10:55 PM
yep, you lost the box
Slathar
06-23-2012, 10:56 PM
(whom actually earn a decent living in RL)
lol
hagard
06-23-2012, 11:27 PM
Starting to think Mellow is just very mad instead of trollen.
he needs meds
jdklaw
06-24-2012, 05:46 AM
I'm a straight shooter and I don't believe this AT ALL. Screenshots or logs must be provided.
Havent i proved myself as a straight shooter yet? Ok this one doesnt show a freeport 300plat loot but u get the idea, i was still learning the art of pvp server
http://i.imgur.com/JQGZj.jpg (http://imgur.com/JQGZj)
http://i.imgur.com/N3bqP.jpg (http://imgur.com/N3bqP)
Abysal had to send me a tell requesting his LOC after that one, good thing im a nice guy
Dullah
06-24-2012, 07:15 AM
Rettiwalk, you were lvling up @watchman halv in SF when I would port in on you and either kill you or watch you plug into lfay, stop the bullshit bud. Mellow hate to break it to you but because your buddies poopsocked up faster than everyone else ,(whom actually earn a decent living in RL) and defeated all those mighty encounters uncontested does not mean you won server, it means you won pixels that all of us have had manymanymany times before.
Translation: played shit boxes ala LoZ/vztz, raid loots were freely distributed or 1 groupable, henceforth considered self an EQ champion.
Tr0llb0rn
06-24-2012, 09:29 AM
He has to cling to something..anything. Even if its on a meaningless ez server where EVERYONE gets a trophy.
I told them classic legit red EQ was not for everyone.............
holo/FF just not up to the challenge or task, wtb worthy oponents that dont quit after constant failure.
hagard
06-24-2012, 12:57 PM
Apparently classic legit eq is only for about 30 people, 27 of which are in 1 guild happily farming l00ts without the fear of pvp, congratulations y'all have won the box
Tr0llb0rn
06-24-2012, 03:01 PM
/flex
Abysal
06-24-2012, 03:49 PM
FF / holo won all major pvp , but you guys did win more pixels so in each of our minds we won? When you all got full sky quest loot come to legacy for some pvp action
SearyxTZ
06-24-2012, 04:03 PM
Surprised Nihilum still hasn't split their guild up.
Dullah
06-24-2012, 04:04 PM
FF / holo won all major pvp , but you guys did win more pixels so in each of our minds we won? When you all got full sky quest loot come to legacy for some pvp action
Lol. No. Keep kidding yourself. We kicked Holo off naggy and out of fear every single day except once (when they outnumbered us by over a group - zerg!). Prior to January, they may have had a glorious month of pvp, but Feb-present not even close.
FF won all major pvp? You had 1 week of victory in hate and naggy largely against Nillys second stringers. Clearly delusional.
We'll be playing kunark without 50x the bugs, thanks for the offer though.
Dullah
06-24-2012, 04:07 PM
Surprised Nihilum still hasn't split their guild up.
Why, so we could pvp each other into the ground over nothing? SOUNDS LIKE FUN BRO!!!11
Why so other guilds can come back and beat us by sheer numbers because they couldn't win with even? Sounds great!
Cwall
06-24-2012, 04:55 PM
Why so other guilds can come back and beat us by sheer numbers because they couldn't win with even?
sounds like someone i know
Dullah
06-24-2012, 04:59 PM
Yes, you probably are familiar with FF and Holocaust. Both died over and over with even and even greater numbers, but liked to complain Nilly was a zerg on those days we actually had more. Its called displacing the blame.
SearyxTZ
06-24-2012, 05:02 PM
Uh, yeah - so you could pvp + actually use all the shiny items you've collected after raiding uncontested for god knows how long.
It's really ironic that fear of other guilds coming back to pvp you with "sheer numbers" is what's ensuring the Red99 landscape is more like someone's private blue server. Give me a break.
I had a conversation with Sirken back in February where he sort of nudged me (not explicitly) to ally with your competition just to match your ridiculous numbers. Even the staff saw that the huge raid guild monopoly was a problem months ago, and yet here we are at the end of June and nothing has changed.
Your leadership needs to shake this up if they give a shit about the long-term health of the server. If you "won" the server already, then maybe it's time to make it a little more playable for the people who have not clocked in 500+ hours of pve raid playtime and aren't sporting the best item for every single slot on multiple toons.
jdklaw
06-24-2012, 05:09 PM
heh 5man guilds in full planar
SearyxTZ
06-24-2012, 05:09 PM
I should also point out that this is why people are really calling for a server reset/wipe. Nobody is going to climb that mountain to compete with your guild at this point.
What chance does anyone have? Let's pretend I come back and bring 5-10 of my pals.
Do you think we're at all interested in getting repeatedly prison-raped by a guild five times the size with the best gear in the game (especially with slow exp)? It doesn't matter how skilled anyone is in that scenario -- we are going to lose every single time. I don't blame Holocaust for resorting to training you when they got set back two weeks and then came back to a huge numbers disadvantage. I probably would have done the same.
mycutie
06-24-2012, 05:22 PM
BURRRY YOU WITH SATAN, DEATH IS IN YA FUTURE
Dullah
06-24-2012, 05:25 PM
Its neat how months of contested raid kills/items all of a sudden become "uncontested" when people leave the server.
Kunark levels the playing field. To beat a good guild, you have to actually recruit people, which means not being social retards, the illness most of the people from the eq pvp community suffer from. If you can overcome this handicap (which you personally may not have), you'd be perfectly capable of competing.
If you think you are gonna win legit EQ at 2012 with 10 good players, you will end up leaving sore like everyone else. Its not 1999 RZ where 95% is completely incompetent and can be run over by 10 dudes, regardless of their skill.
mycutie
06-24-2012, 05:26 PM
its just like... FF was PVPING Nihilum and stopping them in there tracks, and dont lie, all you guys were Excited and thrilled.. it osunded liek yall had fun.....then FF ran off to EZ69 to pvp eachother and peeps Boxing lol... still dont get them no matter what they say.. doesnt make sense.. But ya gotta do what ya gotta do.. follow HB hell lead ya to the best tasing water
Galilao
06-24-2012, 05:29 PM
0.8.0 [View] 17 Project 1999 PvP
0.8.0 [View] 80 *Legacy Of Zek* [Kunark/PVP]
Just saying /shrug
mycutie
06-24-2012, 05:32 PM
LOZ is lame pvp.. tried it out and itsl ike im playign with children.. GL guys
SearyxTZ
06-24-2012, 05:34 PM
Its neat how months of contested raid kills/items all of a sudden become "uncontested" when people leave the server.
Kunark levels the playing field. To beat a good guild, you have to actually recruit people, which means not being social retards, the illness most of the people from the eq pvp community suffer from. If you can overcome this handicap (which you personally may not have), you'd be perfectly capable of competing.
If you think you are gonna win legit EQ at 2012 with 10 good players, you will end up leaving sore like everyone else. Its not 1999 RZ where 95% is completely incompetent and can be run over by 10 dudes, regardless of their skill.
Your guild was/is massive even by big raid guild standards, and especially considering the overall population of the server.
10 players, no. Let's say I bring 30. Still not even in the same ballpark. You had 50 people online at the same time, on a single IP server. Even in 1999 I can't think of a single guild on TZ that was ever that large, and there were a hell of a lot more people playing.
Dullah
06-24-2012, 05:44 PM
We barely field 20 now, 23 was the most I've seen in 2+ months for Keeper of Souls. Except during the zerg war in January where Holo and Nilly both had 30-40, the most we ever fielded was high 30s back when plane of fear first opened. If there was a good alternative guild, it would have been very different.
Just fyi. Don't believe all the hype.
Tr0llb0rn
06-24-2012, 06:15 PM
fiegi, no more tears
heartbrand
06-24-2012, 06:26 PM
Destin has been shown via multiple screenshots to have been in his low level 20's in January, a complete non-factor, and yet speaks as if he was at those PVP battles (screenshots and logs show he wasn't). Do not buy into the propaganda. Public service announcement concluded.
Raiden
06-24-2012, 06:33 PM
Its neat how months of contested raid kills/items all of a sudden become "uncontested" when people leave the server.
Kunark levels the playing field. To beat a good guild, you have to actually recruit people, which means not being social retards, the illness most of the people from the eq pvp community suffer from. If you can overcome this handicap (which you personally may not have), you'd be perfectly capable of competing.
If you think you are gonna win legit EQ at 2012 with 10 good players, you will end up leaving sore like everyone else. Its not 1999 RZ where 95% is completely incompetent and can be run over by 10 dudes, regardless of their skill.
+1, only guy on the forums you can rely on
Tradesonred
06-24-2012, 06:41 PM
We barely field 20 now, 23 was the most I've seen in 2+ months for Keeper of Souls. Except during the zerg war in January where Holo and Nilly both had 30-40, the most we ever fielded was high 30s back when plane of fear first opened. If there was a good alternative guild, it would have been very different.
Just fyi. Don't believe all the hype.
LOL the "most" was high 30s... Just that? SHIT! I remember raiding with Nihilum in march and there was 25-28 of us in fear and a group of what... 6-8 holos outside waiting for stragglers to kill? That was the biggest opposition i can remember in a month of playing with Nihilum.
Im not bitching on Nihi, the way the game and server is set up encourages zerging, but lets be real here, you won the zerging game.
I disagree on no good alternative guild, FF and Holos were usually good pvpers (relative to Nihilum, some of which i never ever saw outside of raiding time), just a bunch of sociopathic assholes in general, which doesnt help keeping up a growing roster. They just didnt have the numbers Nihi did, its not about how good they were.
Raiden
06-24-2012, 06:43 PM
LOL the "most" was high 30s... Just that? SHIT! I remember raiding with Nihilum in march and there was 25-28 of us in fear and a group of what... 6-8 holos outside waiting for stragglers to kill? That was the biggest opposition i can remember in a month of playing with Nihilum.
Im not bitching on Nihi, the way the game and server is set up encourages zerging, but lets be real here, you won the zerging game.
I disagree on no good alternative guild, FF and Holos were usually good pvpers, just a bunch of sociopathic assholes in general, which doesnt help keeping up a growing roster. They just didnt have the numbers Nihi did, its not about how good they were.
^as above
Just fyi. Don't believe all the hype.
Tradesonred is a known RMT'er, banned, and probably exploiter. Next?
Tradesonred
06-24-2012, 06:46 PM
^as above
Tradesonred is a known RMT'er, banned, and probably exploiter. Next?
lol what? Im ecoli... RMTwut? I was never banned on red, was banned on Blue cuz Uthgaard got a panic attack when i didnt respect his authoritay
LOL the length to which some of these people like Harrison will go when they get on the defensive
So basically you have nothing to say about the facts that anyone who was around in march/april in Nihi or Holo can confirm, and instead chose to do a cheesy ass character assassination. Gotcha.
heartbrand
06-24-2012, 06:56 PM
Facts don't matter on these boards. Videos posted, logs, screenshots, etc., Dullah will keep repeating the same mantra over and over, delusional to the very end. It's sad to see. Us who know the truth, aka were actually there and not busy farming the hermit in South Karana, appreciate your facts though.
Dullah
06-24-2012, 07:31 PM
LOL the "most" was high 30s... Just that? SHIT! I remember raiding with Nihilum in march and there was 25-28 of us in fear and a group of what... 6-8 holos outside waiting for stragglers to kill? That was the biggest opposition i can remember in a month of playing with Nihilum.
Im not bitching on Nihi, the way the game and server is set up encourages zerging, but lets be real here, you won the zerging game.
I disagree on no good alternative guild, FF and Holos were usually good pvpers (relative to Nihilum, some of which i never ever saw outside of raiding time), just a bunch of sociopathic assholes in general, which doesnt help keeping up a growing roster. They just didnt have the numbers Nihi did, its not about how good they were.
Sorry you came so late. Should have been there when Holo had 20+ in fear for the first few weeks. Good times were had. Heartbrand died a lot.
@fartbrand
Sorry it took me 4 weeks to hit 50 on my wizard in January, and I still killed you more, won more pvp overall, and accomplished more in my guild than you ever did.
U mad bro.
Oh ya, he mad.
Raiden
06-24-2012, 07:35 PM
U mad bro.
Oh ya, he mad.
Heartbread, u mad bro? ya he mad lolol
I would like to play Everquest with my friend Searyx.
Also as someone who doesn't know this server very well, the TrollBorn guy is fakeposting right?
Abysal
06-24-2012, 11:27 PM
At least you acknowledge you got you lost for a week straight over naggy Dullah, only real pvp where 10plus were on both sides consistently. Other then the big fight outside fear invis wall where you lost horrifically. Or the last major fight with FF @WK/Qhills zoneline where you also lost....
heartbrand
06-24-2012, 11:27 PM
lol @ dullah spouting the same old lies. only two battles ever took place in fear, one we were grossly outnumbered and decided to stay and fight because it's a PVP server and gating out because of the zerg got boring, and the second time we were already on our D league players like filthed, and didnt realize nihilum had half their casters bound there (who spawned with full mana at the time). destin was there for only one of those battles as well. logs / screenshots etc. all document this but feel free to keep on posting the same lies, Coach Cast will expose you yet again bro
p.s. didn't die in either even though stasis tried to interrupt my gate =p
Nirgon
06-25-2012, 02:07 AM
I'm willing to wager this guy's word per post count trumps anyone else on the entire red section of these forums, geezus christ the dedication and discipline has got to be admired.
His dumb per word is high as well
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