Malo getting resisted

[Jarnauga]

Hey there,

Malo just got resisted on 2 raid mobs, namely Noble Dojorn and Trakanon.. dont know if it's just that i get the wrong message and the spells actually lands or not.

I can post a screenshot when it happened to me on Noble if needed.

Thank you :)

[Speedling]

Pretty sure Noble is spell immune. Trakanon, were you under his belly?

[arsenalpow]

noble def is not spell immune and he was def under trak's belly

[Spectre]

You don't need to be under a belly-caster's belly to land Malo, similar to Tash. When epics came out, the same thing was happening with Eejag. You should be able to Malo anything whether or not you're within melee range.

[Jarnauga]

Malo is unresistable, i shouldn't have to belly cast.. all that matters is being in cast range

amirite ?

[Nizzarr]

Noble is belly cast, we had tash getting resisted from afar.

Same with gorgolosk.

[Asher]

Malo is unresistable, i shouldn't have to belly cast.. all that matters is being in cast range

amirite ?

Yes, Malo is unresistable and should land on everything in the game. Never ever did this once get resisted on live and nothing is inherently immune to malo like they are to snare and slow.

You can add "a thunder spirit princess" to that list too. Can we get this fixed please? Malo is unresistable!

Asher

[Asher]

Noble is belly cast, we had tash getting resisted from afar.

Same with gorgolosk.

Tash should also always land on mobs. No belly cast required.

I also have mobs that resist lures (Neg 300 resist check) that shouldn't be as resistant. Lures should land on Bro Z. He shouldn't resist 10 out of 10 lures cast by a level 58 wizard. But the screwed up resists is for another bug thread and AFAIK the devs don't think resists are a problem.

[Triangle]

Gotta agree with this thread. No mob should be able to resist malo/tash even if they are a belly-cast mob.

[Asher]

I just belly cast Malo on Thunder Spirit Princess and she resisted. :rolleyes:

Asher

[Asher]

/bump for a possible fix on the next round.

If you would like old URLs that say Malo is unresistable let me know.

Asher

[kanras]

This is the general issue where we don't know if mob immunity is supposed to trump spell unresistability (not a word). So far I don't think we've seen anything to indicate it's supposed to be one way or the other.

[Asher]

This is the general issue where we don't know if mob immunity is supposed to trump spell unresistability (not a word). So far I don't think we've seen anything to indicate it's supposed to be one way or the other.

I don't know how we are going to prove this to you. I don't recall anything ever resisting Malo at any range.

One would think that there would be discussions or mentions of mobs being immune to Tash / Malo in raid strategy. I know there are lists that tell you of snare/slow immunity and which type of spells land best on mobs but I have never seen or heard of tash / malo immunity.

I am seriously regretting giving away my EQMac account and my crapintosh when I came here.

When I have time I will try and gather more information on this.

Asher

[Asher]

This strategy is pretty much what shamans did in every guild on live.

Malo --> Malosini --> Slow --> Cripple

With more shaman duties were split. Anyone who raided with a shaman on live will tell you it was and has never been resisted.

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Thunderlips

Scholar

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Cast Malo(s) first because you are sure it will hold (unresistable). Now, if additionnal casters among your team/guild still report high resits, try to overwrite with Malosinia.

When we raid, we basicaly have 1 shaman dealing with Malo(s), 1 with Malosinia and 1 with Cripple for complete debuff. First 2 shamans cast on the same time their Malo***, then the 3rd one (casting Cripple) cast his spell like 2 secs later to be sure at least Malo(s) landed. The mob is then properly debuffed. At this time, get 1 shaman to cast an "alternative" (disease) slow then 1 casting the "regular" (magic) slow.

Conclusion : If you got at least 4 shaman in your raid and do this, you'll get your mob malo'd, crippled and slowed within the first 8 sec of the fight. This simple basic tactics work ok 90%+ of the raid encounters you'll face.

Asher

[Asher]

This is the general issue where we don't know if mob immunity is supposed to trump spell unresistability (not a word). So far I don't think we've seen anything to indicate it's supposed to be one way or the other.

More importantly, do you have some legit list of mobs that are immune to Malo/Tash?
I am willing to bet you don't, so I don't know why you assume that they are immune. Mobs that are immune to changes in attack and run speeds have all been documented. There are no such lists for Tash and Malo.

Asher

[kanras]

Belly caster mobs won't resist unresistable spells when cast out of range, pending update.