Rogean hand the keys over

[SamwiseBanned]

this pertains to the red server. this is not a rant or flame so I believe this is the correct sub forum to post. could you kindly hand the keys over to nilbog and/or Null to the red server. it would be nice if they could patch all the changes they've done in a timely manner. For one melee skill ups has been bugged for weeks, the issue was resolved, and now players are waiting on a patch to see changes. I'll admit that I have no idea how much time it takes to take down the server and patch it but I imagine it takes less time to do so then the the devs have taken to resolve all the current bugs I don't play here atm so I really have nothing to lose. I am addressing the issue in case this tread results in a ban. Sadly people are afraid to post thses kind of topics with the recent ban hammer going on a killing spree. Again this is not a rant and I am not flaming Rogean. I just feel that you have neglected this project long enough. Happy hunting all.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Interesting, but would Nilbog be willing?

[SamwiseBanned]

Not sure. I don't think he would want to cause any kind of problems between Rogean and him but it needs to happen. I had mixed thoughta about nilbog til i talked to him on IRC. He is actually a pretty cool guy and helpd me resolve my windows 7 issue. Secrets also had nothing but good things to say about him. Wish I had not trolled him in the past but he came off as a dick on the forums. Unforuntely I am banned from IRC so nilbog if you are reading this Thanks for showing me those win7 dynamic links thing. My oem key worked with those isos and now I have a valid copy of win7 once again.

edit: weekly to bi-weekly patches are necessary. even if its just to fix the pathing of a random mob in crushbone, it shows the playerbase that someone is working on the server.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Maybe Rogean would welcome this burden lifted off his shoulders? I guess its something him and Nilbog would have to work out. I sense Nilbog is still very much "into" the project, but as for Rogean I cannot say one way or the other.

Its an interesting idea though.

[hijinks]

He is not doing that, I think they gave one other guy Rogeanish type powers (Uthguaard) or whatever his name is and they got burned...

Is what it is pals... you can either ignore the fact that the creator of the project could give a shat about it and can turn the box off any day of his liking and move on with life, or you can continue to waste time on here.

EQ PvP emus have a very short lifespan. I had tons of fun during the 6 months I played when the pop was acceptable, brought back a lot of memories and a lot of fun which was the point of the whole thing anyway right? It would be great to keep PvPing n killn dragons but Classic timeline was not meant to survive in this day n age with the large variety of games released and being released..

Accept the state of the server for what it is and check back every now n then to see any movement on Kunark, etc.. but at this rate, I don't see them EVER releasing Kunark on here..

[SamwiseBanned]

the thing is, people have donated time and money to this project. I am not asking for 24/7 tech support but a bi-weekly patch and the occasional convo with playerbase is NOT asking for too much. if you cannot find the time to take care of this project then let someone else do the job.

EDIT: without turning this into a flame war on why the server is failing I just wanna say that i would take an active dev/maintainer over content/increased xp anyday.

[SamwiseBanned]

rogaine takes money out of his own pockets for this bro, it's free, why are ppl so ungrateful?


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lol that gif cracks me up. guess laughing is contagious.

[hijinks]

One thing we know for sure is that all the cast of characters that have quit still frequent this board every day basically, rest assured if and when Rogean decide to properly run Red99 and support it that the audience will be around for a possible comeback.

Wishful thinking I guess.

[SamwiseBanned]

inc patch today. hmm. its a start but i still stand by nilbog taking they keys.

[Amelinda]

Even if it became Nilbog's server i am pretty sure rogean would still be the one to patch it. so you'd still have to wait for rogean to have time to patch things...

[SamwiseBanned]

nothing wrong with rogean taking a leave of absense to pursuit other interests. let nilbog drive for a bit with the ability to patch server at will. aite friends, i dont say this often but "gone fishin." I'll be sure to check back sunday and see if server pop is boosted. gl with the grind. peace.

[nilbog]

Eh... Okay here's how this goes.

Server Administrator is a full time job itself. Rogean's presence makes the server run better overall and he takes care of downtime. I strongly request and desire his presence to remain as Server Administrator. What he never gets credit for is very fast response time for server outages or issues with the loginserver. (His primary responsibility here.)

With that being said, I am the project manager and lead content developer. I do not have the time nor desire to perform IT administration on top of these duties. If I was being paid by Sony or something to provide a classic eq experience, that would be my job and I would do it well. Ultimately, as I have stated in the past, my hobby/goal here is recreate classic EQ from launch till Velious. Player issues, and issues regarding the server are not the top of my priority list. I do make time to do item reimbursements if those reimbursements can be verified from our logs. I also try to make time for community posts and discuss classic everquest.

I'm sure Rogean is just busy. Regardless of what you may think, you need him here. He ensures the servers are up and running.

I might be willing to perform patches in a dire situation, but Rogean fills this role just fine. I have a real life job myself. (IT development and sometimes remote deployment/project management) You might not see me post for a while, but it doesn't mean I gave up; it means I'm busy.

In his place, I wouldn't have responded to a lot of the threads directed at him.

To all PvP members, try to act like normal people. See how it works out. Try it for longer than one day. Obviously trolling doesn't help; it makes it worse.

[gprater]

Eh... Okay here's how this goes.

Server Administrator is a full time job itself. Rogean's presence makes the server run better overall and he takes care of downtime. I strongly request and desire his presence to remain as Server Administrator. What he never gets credit for is very fast response time for server outages or issues with the loginserver. (His primary responsibility here.)

With that being said, I am the project manager and lead content developer. I do not have the time nor desire to perform IT administration on top of these duties. If I was being paid by Sony or something to provide a classic eq experience, that would be my job and I would do it well. Ultimately, as I have stated in the past, my hobby/goal here is recreate classic EQ from launch till Velious. Player issues, and issues regarding the server are not the top of my priority list. I do make time to do item reimbursements if those reimbursements can be verified from our logs. I also try to make time for community posts and discuss classic everquest.

I'm sure Rogean is just busy. Regardless of what you may think, you need him here. He ensures the servers are up and running.

I might be willing to perform patches in a dire situation, but Rogean fills this role just fine. I have a real life job myself. (IT development and sometimes remote deployment/project management) You might not see me post for a while, but it doesn't mean I gave up; it means I'm busy.

In his place, I wouldn't have responded to a lot of the threads directed at him.

To all PvP members, try to act like normal people. See how it works out. Try it for longer than one day. Obviously trolling doesn't help; it makes it worse.


+2 for this. I think the vast majority understand this and are happy with status quo. Rogean does get credit for those quick response times. I guess I and others should make it public every once once in a while instead of just chatting about it. This is by far a top shelf operation considering the only desire/compensation comes from love of the game.

This is not directed to anyone in particular nor is it a flame, but I would almost bet my left nut that most of the complainers dont have much to do on a daily basis other than play this game or complain about it and really dont have much of an understanding of what a real life job is. Fortunately I teach and I have this massive amount of time during the daytime in summer, but I dont think I could EVER be one of those players I see Online EVERY time I log in.

Sorry for rambling, keep up the work. The worthy ones will stay and others will go. Maybe they will give up the forums too when they leave (crosses fingers)

[heartbrand]

If the vast majority understand this and are happy why are there 14 people online on a Friday?

[EQtrader]

dont listen to the trolls sir nillbog, server and rogean are doing a fine job, just like you said. IMO stop patching, too many patches and Gm interaction are what drove people away. Look at samwise, one minute hes dissing the server and next hes on LoZ posting screen shots making fun of you, now hes back. Server's downfall like i said is too many patches. Do the right thing and nix this SKY/ content patch. thanks

[jdklaw]

If the vast majority understand this and are happy why are there 14 people online on a Friday?

because the trolling, sky is falling, and burn it down mentality spread like locusts of everyone jumping on the bandwagon. You are included in this. You sat there and tried to stay on as long as you could, rolled several lvl 50's, and even helped organized a great week or two of guild v guild PvP over raid targets.

However, you gave up with the rest of FF after a little bit of a spanking one night.

If Nihilum can admit when we've lost a battle but continue to play, try, and have a good time fighting the good fight, then how come everyone else can't?

We were called Bluebies for raiding raid targets, but if I log on LoZ, I see the same FF and Holocaust whiners linking raid loot and running around in planar gear. This leads me to believe that it was the fact they were not the dominating force on Red99 was the primary cause of spreading the anti-red99 propoganda thus leading to its current state.

I think we can all admit that Red99 is the best, and will always be the best most stable server. It might not have all the perks i.e. translocating at boat docks, soul binders in everyzone, (description of vendor type text), non-classic loot tables and item drops, fixed duration charm, mobs that do not follow pathing, mobs with zero agro radius, dragons that are abled to be 3-manned, and 200x exp... but it will never have a wipe and will always offer the least amount of bugs and guarenteed quality and longevity.

True, Devnoob and the other sit in game 20hrs a day and communicate and try to fix bugs as they arise, but thats because there is a newbug discovered every 10seconds, the server is years behind in development than Project1999 is, so its not really the same when you talk about communication as an argument.

[heartbrand]

All I can say is, I never wanted to "give up," but there's little point in logging in when your guild has basically rage quit. It was a snowball effect, and even for that week, it took several hours of gorilla war tactics each night to slow you guys down until midnight when FF players actually log in. Those numbers were also not representative of the average numbers we usually fielded, which were far less. For whatever reason, all the poopsockers ended up in one guild and there was just never a real chance to contest on this server. For all the bugs you just mentioned at least LoZ presents the opportunity for PVP because it sets the bar of entry so low.

I would love to see this server populated with booming PVP, multiple guilds at the top fighting it out. Unfortunately, I don't see how any of the changes being made will make that a reality, and the real truth is, as depressing as it may be to those of us who invested more time than we'd like to admit here, there's probably nothing that can be done at this point to change that.

[Tombom]

All I can say is, I never wanted to "give up," but there's little point in logging in when your guild has basically rage quit. It was a snowball effect, and even for that week, it took several hours of gorilla war tactics each night to slow you guys down until midnight when FF players actually log in. Those numbers were also not representative of the average numbers we usually fielded, which were far less. For whatever reason, all the poopsockers ended up in one guild and there was just never a real chance to contest on this server. For all the bugs you just mentioned at least LoZ presents the opportunity for PVP because it sets the bar of entry so low.

I would love to see this server populated with booming PVP, multiple guilds at the top fighting it out. Unfortunately, I don't see how any of the changes being made will make that a reality, and the real truth is, as depressing as it may be to those of us who invested more time than we'd like to admit here, there's probably nothing that can be done at this point to change that.

the final stage of pixel grief, absolution.

you have come a long way, it is always a sad day to see a man down so low.

[Rushmore]

I think the OP means just let someone else be able to adjust rules, xp, pvp, etc how they see fit to keep things moving.

This server is not dead. I can see there are people not playing that is obvious but I also can see the hundreds of people view these forums daily! Obvious is so Obvious

[Hitchens]

Samwise is never right about anything. Ever.

[Hailto]

What is the point of switching management when you guys have an average of 20 people (being generous) playing the server, its dead.

[jdklaw]

there was just never a real chance to contest on this server

I think this is false because you guys DID contest it, and had actually won a few times. A number of us were even cheering you guys on because we knew if you took the mob down after winning PvP it would have pumped the moral up.

All I can say is, I never wanted to "give up," but there's little point in logging in when your guild has basically rage quit. It was a snowball effect


I would love to see this server populated with booming PVP, multiple guilds at the top fighting it out. Unfortunately, I don't see how any of the changes being made will make that a reality, and the real truth is, as depressing as it may be to those of us who invested more time than we'd like to admit here, there's probably nothing that can be done at this point to change that.

Logging in will change that. If the OG Holocausters and the rest of the ones that caused the snowball effect of not logging in actually got online, we would have Holocaust, FF, Nihilum, and with Flowers getting in range, and still being die hard PvPers things would be healthy and fun as fuck.

Logging in and PvPing is the solution. I agree that things need to be done to cater to those that EQ is too hard for, but not logging in and crying is not the solution.

[heartbrand]

If you guys wanted us to win why did you guys leave a group there bolting us through walls until 3 am in the morning and repeatedly rush on engage to aggro train naggy? No one wanted to deal with staying up till four am to engage. The poopsocking dedication by a
few of you killed the guilds will.

[jdklaw]

your guild of emulated box chasers has a low level of will then and thats nobodies fault but their own

we had the will to persist through people logging on throw away accounts and training /shrug

[Dullah]

If you guys wanted us to win why did you guys leave a group there bolting us through walls until 3 am in the morning and repeatedly rush on engage to aggro train naggy? No one wanted to deal with staying up till four am to engage. The poopsocking dedication by a few of you killed the guilds will.
lol @ heartbrand crying about being bolted thru a wall

In Uprising it was nothing but 24/7 gchat about how he was killing people thru walls in Lguk while he farmed his precious pixels.

[heartbrand]

Lol u sound mad

[Greegon]

To all PvP members, try to act like normal people. See how it works out.

LOL if only

[Dullah]

Lol u sound mad

not even a tiny bit

[Gongshow]

Nilbug

[Slathar]

who gives a fuck

server is dead. there is nothing that will fix it at this point.

[Sickpuppy]

yeah honestly i gave up once holo was gone i couldnt see my self making friends with enimies ( FF and nihilum ) but at 1 point i didnt try to join nihilum becouse i got bored of being unguiled but i couldnt see my self heading to FF becouse i just cant stand a certain few members .. enyway sad to see the pop this low but glad i left when i did if the population rises about 75 daily and consitant i def will be back becouse there will be more people to play with and i wouldnt be forced to choose between 2 guilds maybe there will be a 3rd

[Sickpuppy]

and yes i think if the gms didnt suck nihilums dick then we wouldnt be in this situation ... seemed like everything holo did some1 got suspended or banned but nihilum was getting away with the same bullshit with no penelty we could all sit here and argue and talk until our faces turn blue but its not going to change the population some drastic changes need to hapen to spark even a little bit of intrest in the server for it to gain people back .. look there is 14 people on im 100% sure none of them are pvping their all pixel slaying .. they should just pack their bags to and move to blue

[jdklaw]

heh

[s1ckness]

rogaine takes money out of his own pockets for this bro, it's free, why are ppl so ungrateful?


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[heartbrand]

^ lol

[hagard]

who gives a fuck

server is dead. there is nothing that will fix it at this point.

[Galilao]

who gives a fuck

server is dead. there is nothing that will fix it at this point.

2 tru, anyone who cared at all has long since moved on.

peak is now 26 players, even with double exp and new raid content.

[PhantomRogue]

2 tru, anyone who cared at all has long since moved on.

peak is now 26 players, even with double exp and new raid content.

Double EXP doesn't make leveling anything but a Caster any easier.

The problem isn't that EXP isnt good (which it isnt), its that unless you are a pet class or someone that can solo... you still can't get EXP in a double exp weekend!

[Nirgon]

Make a rogue solo and claim you want that classic EQ experience. You'll get it.