Test raising the XP.... server is already on it's last breath

[Vile]

Seriously, put P99 XP near VZTZ levels for a couple of weeks (even 1 week)... what do you have to lose? Test it out.. if it sucks, you will have tried it out and those of us who still check the forums in hopes of this happening can never come back. It's a win-win situation.

If you're coming here to flame this, you have some serious "Harrison-like issues" and you should apply at your local deli to serve up some fine quality lunch meats.

[Dullah]

I think they should put in a bonus and hot zones, at least until Kunark. Then bonus weekends and such, nothing permanent. Hot zones should stay. Good for the peevs.

[Vile]

The original post has to come to fruition or server is a bust.

The end.

I fucking called this shit from day 1.

Vile the Lord Prophet Box Nostradamus

[SearyxTZ]

Agreed. This is what most red players wanted from the start. Add hotzones to drive low pop to the same zones. Box becomes 100x more appealing to reds and maybe people start to play again knowing they don't have to commit 200 hours to SoloQuest to get into any pvp.


Let's also go into what "VZTZ levels" means. That's at least double the current rate.

The game begins at 40+ on red servers. On VZTZ I spent.... probably north of 500 hours playing after I had already hit 50. On TZ I spent an embarrassing amount of time (2000+ hours) playing after I had hit the level cap. Fighting over content and item progression were always the long term treadmills. Grinding up levels was not.

[Cwall]

The game begins at 40+ on red servers.

ye

[Tr0llb0rn]

I never liked hotzones because its a sympton of game-on-rails.

I dont want a quest log to force me to xp in just one place, and i dont want hotzones to force me to xp in one place , or on a "golden path" either.

I think the ocasional bonus xp weekend, especialy preceeding big releaes like sky , kunark, VP, etc. is more then enough.

The OP of this thread complained that xp was too hard even when the pop was 400+, even when getting PLed in unrest, even when his friends gave him gear.

Either you can handle and accept classic EQ, or you can't. We cant get all crazy and change the foundation of this server, and slow char progression, heavy investment into that character is very fundamental to the early design of Everquest as an entire game.

p.s. the "game begins at 40+ on red servers" is totally false. This is EQ, its about the journy at all levels. Not worried cause devs wont be trolled into making this non-classic EQ.

[Vile]

I never liked hotzones because its a sympton of game-on-rails.

I dont want a quest log to force me to xp in just one place, and i dont want hotzones to force me to xp in one place , or on a "golden path" either.

I think the ocasional bonus xp weekend, especialy preceeding big releaes like sky , kunark, VP, etc. is more then enough.

The OP of this thread complained that xp was too hard even when the pop was 400+, even when getting PLed in unrest, even when his friends gave him gear.

Either you can handle and accept classic EQ, or you can't. We cant get all crazy and change the foundation of this server, and slow char progression, heavy investment into that character is very fundamental to the early design of Everquest as an entire game.

p.s. the "game begins at 40+ on red servers" is totally false. This is EQ, its about the journy at all levels. Not worried cause devs wont be trolled into making this non-classic EQ.

What gear was I given? Only thing I was given, was someone logged my char on when a guise dropped. Sorry bro.

I was PL'd for approximately 30 min before I gave up because I knew the server was hitting the shitter. The highlander can attest to this.

I am thankful I didn't waste my time...

[Tr0llb0rn]

I was PL'd for approximately 30 min before I gave up because I knew the server was hitting the shitter


And this was months ago when the server pop was still 300+

Like I said, you just do not like true 1999 style red EQ. Please find a server where you can /insta 50. Its obvious nothing short of that would please you, as stated with your own words.

Server has a good foundation, good ruleset, good code and very true to classic. Some of us can appreciate that and are having fun. The rest sound mad that their lazy no-effort ways are not being catered to.

Sorry , this is classic red 1999, what did you expect? Candyland?

Try wow

[Vile]

Enjoy your < 20 pop bro

[bilbobaggins]

The OP of this thread complained that xp was too hard even when the pop was 400+, even when getting PLed in unrest, even when his friends gave him gear.

durrrrr

[Tr0llb0rn]

durrrrr

lol thought I was on ignore? Please do it, my posts are too pure for your eyes and my real audience is not your kind.

get back to LoZ , you have your 9th lvl 50 to create this afternoon I think.

[mostbitter]

trollborn is just fine playing by himself who cares am i right

[bilbobaggins]

lol thought I was on ignore? Please do it, my posts are too pure for your eyes and my real audience is not your kind.

get back to LoZ , you have your 9th lvl 50 to create this afternoon I think.

u are on ignore. you know how quotes work right?

why would i create 9 level 50 toons? lmao. i just want 1 level 50 toon so i can pvp. and i have a job and a real life so i can't find 500 hours to do it on r99. maybe some day you will have responsibilities too and you will be able to relate. probably not though.

durrrrr.

[Dullah]

I'm very much for the journey of EQ. I could log in and just group up wherever and enjoy the grind, farming items and shooting the shit. The problem now is you can't do those things with low pop, so I am in favor of at least testing hot zones and a prolonged exp bonus to get people playing again. If we can close the gaps in levels so theres more people able to group, it will make the server more appealing for everyone.

[Beauregard]

Free beer, max level chars, active gms, and velious couldn't save this pile.

[jdklaw]

Do w/e it takes, I don't like to see my baby so lonely.

With that said, pvp doesn't start at 40+ like that chump Searyx claims, it starts at lvl 2.

[Galilao]

Don't increase exp, after first increase population plummeted from an average of 80 players to 5 players.

[Rushmore]

The game begins at 40+ on red servers. On VZTZ I spent.... probably north of 500 hours playing after I had already hit 50. On TZ I spent an embarrassing amount of time (2000+ hours) playing after I had hit the level cap. Fighting over content and item progression were always the long term treadmills. Grinding up levels was not.

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/attachments/software-faqs-solutions-tutorials/28010d1144632520-tutorial-how-change-flashdeck-logo-infiniti_logo.png

[hagard]

I never liked hotzones because its a sympton of game-on-rails.


Lol wut?

[SamwiseBanned]

eq is a themepark wtf are you talking about

[hagard]

Dunno eq is carrots and roller coasters I'm so confused

[SamwiseBanned]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I can't help but think of Arthas when i here this quote. Yea this is completely off-topic but any thread i make gets promptly deleted so I'll post it here. If only blizzard made games like they made trailers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORwuO5TUm7o&feature=g-vrec THe narriative of Arthas's father is just awesome.

[Tradesonred]

I dont even blame Rogean and the devs for the servers failure, i blame the idiotic community.

If the community had half a brain it would have seen this coming and put pressure on devs early but the core combo of the PVE poopsockers and the pvp griefers to whom xp loss in pvp was useful and wanted ran this server down the shitter.

All the casuals got trickled out silently as well as any new blood attempting to roll on red.

To sum it up, community pwned itself in the face and Rog & Co probably thought hey 90% of the pop cant be wrong

[SamwiseBanned]

i think most of the community DID see this coming and after little to no response from devs they bailed the fuck out. all you have to do is browse the forums and you will find thread after thread pleaing for some kind of dev response. i dont think anyone quit because of pvp xp loss, they quit for 100s of other reasons you can find in 100s of other threads.

[Tradesonred]

i think most of the community DID see this coming and after little to no response from devs they bailed the fuck out. all you have to do is browse the forums and you will find thread after thread pleaing for some kind of dev response. i dont think anyone quit because of pvp xp loss, they quit for 100s of other reasons you can find in 100s of other threads.

That was in the end, when there was like ~100 people left at peak, im talking about earlier than that

[mostbitter]

Get a clue, several people made efforts to inform the staff about the likely consequence of the rule set as well as many of the bugs and exploits which where promptly abused after the staff was made aware of these things and ignored them

[Ghordo]

How often can you talk about the same shit everyday before it gets boring and redundant. It's a fucking emulator, either play on it or don't play on it.

[SearyxTZ]

Don't increase exp, after first increase population plummeted from an average of 80 players to 5 players.

Yeah just like guard assist and the resist fixes plummeted it too.


No, what drove it down was the shit community (which was already in doomsday THE SKY IS FALLING mode back in January) and Rogean being completely AWOL from the forums.


I never liked hotzones because its a sympton of game-on-rails.

I dont want a quest log to force me to xp in just one place, and i dont want hotzones to force me to xp in one place , or on a "golden path" either.

I think the ocasional bonus xp weekend, especialy preceeding big releaes like sky , kunark, VP, etc. is more then enough.

The OP of this thread complained that xp was too hard even when the pop was 400+, even when getting PLed in unrest, even when his friends gave him gear.

Either you can handle and accept classic EQ, or you can't. We cant get all crazy and change the foundation of this server, and slow char progression, heavy investment into that character is very fundamental to the early design of Everquest as an entire game.

p.s. the "game begins at 40+ on red servers" is totally false. This is EQ, its about the journy at all levels. Not worried cause devs wont be trolled into making this non-classic EQ.

"Classic Everquest" meant 80+ people in Greater Faydark. It meant you'd pvp before you even hit the orc hill.

That doesn't happen here, so I don't want to hear your argument about how increasing the grind is going to ruin "the classic experience" (which isn't classic). The VZTZ design was more faithful to old school RZ than this server is, and the majority of reds wanted it that way from the start. This server used Blue99 as the foundation instead of VZTZ. You can draw your own conclusions on whether that was a mistake or not.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Have you tried out LoZ yet Searyx? I think it has most of the features (fast xp, easier time of things, YT, etc) that you are after.

[SearyxTZ]

Yeah it's just a tough call between that or this server's offering of no PvP and soloing to level 50.

I'm so torn.

[Tr0llb0rn]

cool, im glad you found a server that is right for you

[SearyxTZ]

I'm not playing on either of these shitboxes.


The fact that the already-diminished red population is currently split between two servers is retarded beyond description.

The only thing worse is that "Red69" managed to usurp most of this server's remaining playerbase in a day despite running inferior code and database. Maybe it's time we consider what they're offering over there that works? Catch up to the non-premier box in the normal servers list?

[Tr0llb0rn]

I'm not playing on either of these shitboxes.


The fact that the already-diminished red population is currently split between two servers is retarded beyond description.

The only thing worse is that "Red69" managed to usurp most of this server's remaining playerbase in a day despite running inferior code and database. Maybe it's time we consider what they're offering over there that works? Catch up to the non-premier box in the normal servers list?

But I dont understand.

EZ69 has all the features you want and you claim has a higher population then red99, why arent you playing on it?

I bet you could even solo your meele there to 50 pretty fast, like you've always wanted to do.

Meanwhile back on red99, we are still here enjoying and appreciateing our authentic 1999 red server, even if its "harder". We dont mind.

Both communities can win, the ones that want the classic red experience, and those want prefer the "less challengeing" ez69 one.

I must say I am very shocked you are not playing ez69.

[Nirgon]

I'm going to log on and summon Devnewb

[SearyxTZ]

Meanwhile back on red99, we are still here enjoying and appreciateing our authentic 1999 red server, even if its "harder". We dont mind.


What is authenic or challenging about the current experience exactly? The complete lack of pvp and player interaction?

And who is "we"? Who are you speaking for here - the 8 people logged on right now?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but this server wasn't created for a small minority of carebears who want to exp grind by themselves while watching paint dry and occasionally licking a nearby window. The goal is to provide a classic red experience that most of the red playerbase can enjoy.

[PhantomRogue]

What is authenic or challenging about the current experience exactly? The complete lack of pvp and player interaction?

And who is "we"? Who are you speaking for here - the 8 people logged on right now?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but this server wasn't created for a small minority of carebears who want to exp grind by themselves while watching paint dry and occasionally licking a nearby window. The goal is to provide a classic red experience that most of the red playerbase can enjoy.

Join the rest of the world and just put him on ignore.

[Tr0llb0rn]

The goal is to provide a classic red experience that most of the red playerbase can enjoy.

Mission was acomplished in spades.

The only hitch in the plan was not foreseeing how butthurt the losing side would be.

Such a shame, in the real 1999 the vanquished had more of a backbone, oh well, thats the wow generation for you.

Server is awsome, the butthurt playerbase and wow-gereration "classicwannabees" are not.

Your problem, not ours or the devs.

Try ez69, I think everyone gets a trophy there.

[SearyxTZ]

http://lonelyvirgil.tumblr.com/

[hagard]

Mission was acomplished in spades.


Spades, carrots, rails, does anyone have a clue wut dude is talking about?
I thought this was a forum about everquest
Ps post count 666

[SamwiseBanned]

But I dont understand.

EZ69 has all the features you want and you claim has a higher population then red99, why arent you playing on it?

I bet you could even solo your meele there to 50 pretty fast, like you've always wanted to do.

Meanwhile back on red99, we are still here enjoying and appreciateing our authentic 1999 red server, even if its "harder". We dont mind.

Both communities can win, the ones that want the classic red experience, and those want prefer the "less challengeing" ez69 one.

I must say I am very shocked you are not playing ez69.

to each his own but calling this an authentic server doesn't seem right imo. for one its emulated and two its running off titanium client. sure they try their best to emulate classic but emulating something isnt authentic. as far as this server being more challenging, I think that is incorrect too. there is nothing challenging about killing 13 year old mobs in 13 year old zones over and over. the only thing challenging about the grind is the challenge to find the time to do it. also a challenge to repeatedly kill the same mobs for hours on end without getting bored as hell. or it takes an hour to get a group going of the 2 hours you are alloted to play. get real man besides killing dragons there is no challenge when it comes to pve and killing dragons can be done charming fire giants with 14 people if you know how to do it.

[Tumdumm]

to each his own but calling this an authentic server doesn't seem right imo. for one its emulated and two its running off titanium client. sure they try their best to emulate classic but emulating something isnt authentic. as far as this server being more challenging, I think that is incorrect too. there is nothing challenging about killing 13 year old mobs in 13 year old zones over and over. the only thing challenging about the grind is the challenge to find the time to do it. also a challenge to repeatedly kill the same mobs for hours on end without getting bored as hell. or it takes an hour to get a group going of the 2 hours you are alloted to play. get real man besides killing dragons there is no challenge when it comes to pve and killing dragons can be done charming fire giants with 14 people if you know how to do it.

whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night

[taakyn]

Why are all you nerds that worried about it. Server was a flop. Life goes on. Or in the few still logging in nightly, does it?

[SamwiseBanned]

Why are all you nerds that worried about it. Server was a flop. Life goes on. Or in the few still logging in nightly, does it?

phone + taking a shit = long posts. my bad, helps it flow tho

[Mornin3.0]

stop posting on these forums.. they dont want you on their server and they sure as shit dont want you on their forums.

[Tr0llb0rn]

stop posting on these forums.. they dont want you on their server and they sure as shit dont want you on their forums.

why so mad?

[SamwiseBanned]

i did stop posting but i ate an irc ban. not sure what happened i just remember amelinda typing a lot of swear words in all caps after i just got through defending her.

[Nirgon]

If I had to med to full then kill a mob or do a quad a billion times + defend camp w/ pvp and xp loss @ classic xp rate?

Everyone else can too. There's plenty of a bonus.

There's also a reason people left, and it wasn't "cuz xp" lolz. Here's a hint: reason no one's coming back on right now.

[Vile]

^^ what

[Tr0llb0rn]

Nirgon speaks the truth, absorb it Vile. Classic eq was not for you.

you BETTER be over on ez69 with searyx and the others "omg classic too hard" crowd.

[SamwiseBanned]

Nirgon speaks the truth, absorb it Vile. Classic eq was not for you.

you BETTER be over on ez69 with searyx and the others "omg classic too hard" crowd.

Mellow, what exactly do you find difficult in classic? I am curious. Not trolling.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Mellow, what exactly do you find difficult in classic? I am curious. Not trolling.

I dont find classic EQ difficult but it seems many others do..............

hence why you are on ez69

[SearyxTZ]

I heard it's harder there because you have to fight other players

[gloinz]

grinding to 50 on a pally solo is prty ez but exceedingly boring + not worth it

and its a main reason why the pop went from 600 to 5 believe it or not

[Tr0llb0rn]

grinding to 50 on a pally solo is prty ez but exceedingly boring + not worth it

and its a main reason why the pop went from 600 to 5 believe it or not

Yeah I heard the same thing happened on blue99 too.

oh wait.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I heard it's harder there because you have to fight other players

plz watch the multiple GvG videos , one week before they ran to ez69

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75206

shame people cannot lose with dignity and try try again. I offered to give heartbrand some raid tips MANY times to help them along. oh well, I guess going to ez69 was ezier then learning at the feet of your box overlords.

[Tombom]

The amount of trolling still going on is crazy considering that there are like 5 posters left in this wasteland.

A) by the end FF was bonking nihi on the head like 5v 12 and the blues started quitting. FF were brave warriors but why grind hard when there is no one to kill on the other side.

Blue worked because the grind is why they are there

Red is not supposed to be about the grind, and when pop is below 20 it is not even close to worth it.

[SamwiseBanned]

definately had a lot of fun the week I played on LoZ but right now im not playing anything. unfortunely woman clicked on one of those virus malware ads and computer went to hell. I nuked harddrive and installed linux for now. i know red99/loz runs on WINE but tbh neither have the population I would like to see. I was actually thinking about trying blue since I've never played it but looks like the same server drama goes on there too. dunno bro. i hope you havin fun because thats all that matter amirite?

[bamzal]

forumquest in full effect

[heartbrand]

lol @ raid tips. I can't make people log on, I can't make our patch healers heal the chanters, I can't make the chanters make sure they are in melee range when they try to recharm their giant's, etc. etc, literally the only thing I can do is click a midnight mallet and stand in a corner while hoping everyone else doesn't fuck up. I do appreciate you thinking I was the leader tho

[pewpeat]

p.s. the "game begins at 40+ on red servers" is totally false. This is EQ, its about the journy at all levels. Not worried cause devs wont be trolled into making this non-classic EQ.


*fixed*
p.s. the "game totally begins at 40+ on red servers" This is EQ, unless your a first timer there is no journey at all in noob levels. Not worried cause devs wont be trolled into making any attempt to pay attention or give a crap about the population or life of the server.

[Beastro]

Screw the "journey".

It was fun on Live when there were thousands of other players and you could always do something productive be it finding a small group to lv with for some exp or just running around killing the plentiful population of sheep players, but you simply can't do it with a small population.

My friend conned me into playing Live again after nine years last week and even there the "journey" is dead. It died a long time ago after the server populations dropped and the average player level is 90% current with the latest level cap.

[Vile]

The last 2 pages have said all I would need to. Trollborn is just some scrub bluebie who is living it up on a 8 man box and sound hard cause he spent 30 + days played for his pixels.

We get it man...

[Tradesonred]

How often can you talk about the same shit everyday before it gets boring and redundant. It's a fucking emulator, either play on it or don't play on it.

lol i come here once a month

Or i can do whatever the fuck i want

[Dullah]

You should probably tell us about how bad pvp exp loss is again.

[Tradesonred]

You should probably tell us about how bad pvp exp loss is again.

So what, its what i think went wrong with the server. Some people thought it was yellow text no OOC.

There is a reason that you didnt see nonstop pvp like it was on Rallos and im pretty sure it was the pvp xp loss.

PVP XP LOLSS

[PhantomRogue]

So what, its what i think went wrong with the server. Some people thought it was yellow text no OOC.

There is a reason that you didnt see nonstop pvp like it was on Rallos and im pretty sure it was the pvp xp loss.

PVP XP LOLSS

Right, because Rallos Zek was the epitome of PvP servers :rolleyes:

The reason you don't see non-stop PvP is because... NO ONE IS HERE.

It took too long for the bulk of people who remember real EQ to get to 50 so they said fuck it and left.

It is not Yellow Text, it is not EXP Loss in PvP, it is not Content. It was that the people who truly were around (if you are under 30, fuck off, the game was released in 1999, you have to be at least 15 then to really grasp the novelty of EQ) that this server tries to rope in. Any "1999" or Classic type server is trying to pull in the people who ACTUALLY remember EQ back in that time, not the 18 year old fuck buckets that populate this forum, who think saying racist terms and posting gore pictures is funny.

[Hovis]

Enjoy your < 20 pop bro

[Tr0llb0rn]

Right, because Rallos Zek was the epitome of PvP servers :rolleyes:

The reason you don't see non-stop PvP is because... NO ONE IS HERE.

It took too long for the bulk of people who remember real EQ to get to 50 so they said fuck it and left.

It is not Yellow Text, it is not EXP Loss in PvP, it is not Content. It was that the people who truly were around (if you are under 30, fuck off, the game was released in 1999, you have to be at least 15 then to really grasp the novelty of EQ) that this server tries to rope in. Any "1999" or Classic type server is trying to pull in the people who ACTUALLY remember EQ back in that time, not the 18 year old fuck buckets that populate this forum, who think saying racist terms and posting gore pictures is funny.

Im going to agree with you for once. This sever (and its blue99 bro) are really for people who are 30+.

I was and am kind of suprised at how many kids play on these servers.

[SamwiseBanned]

i think most of us are in our late 20s.

[Tr0llb0rn]

i think most of us are in our late 20s.

so you were a young child in 1999 that can easily lose track of time and space.

hmmm, no wonder you find this hard now.

Whatever you do, do NOT log into ultima online, or try earlier games like legends of kesmai, air warrior, gemstone, or... well..anything that came before WoW.

You have been warned.

[EQtrader]

reported for trolling.

[SamwiseBanned]

ultima was aite but eq will always be the best mmo ever created.