View Full Version : Game Mechanics: Enchanter Pets Not Dual Wielding After Level 29+
Arkyani
05-16-2010, 05:42 AM
Everything I have read from classic, and remember, had enchanter pets able to dual wield from level 29 and on. This is basically a huge loss of dps for our pet if choosing to give it a weapon to dual wield.
Will this be changed in the future? I as a enchanter use my pet all the time, and every spell level have been giving it a weapon to see if it will finally dual wield, but to no avail.
I am positive this is something that was in classic, and I am hoping that one day it gets implemented. This would be akin to rogues not able to dual wield, and having to use only 1 weapon. The pet is a primary source of DPS for many enchanters, and something this important I would hope is not overlooked.
Glitch
05-16-2010, 06:08 AM
I looked this up because I wasn't able to find proof that it was classic. I know it was doable at some point,
I would not mind this getting looked at!
nicemace
05-22-2010, 12:30 PM
bumpity bump.
is there any chance we can get some confirmation if this is being looked into or not ? :)
Myrkskog
05-22-2010, 02:54 PM
I don't have any proof one way or the other. But I do have a strong memory of enchanter pets not dual wielding in classic. The 2 handed sword + Shield combo is all I remember from high level enchanters.
I thought dual wielding was Kunark for enchanter pets.
Virgis
05-23-2010, 04:26 AM
http://web.archive.org/web/20021231053215/www.everlore.com/magic/Magic.asp?ID=4974&mode=details&spname=Uleen%27s+Animation&type=
This old Everlore page has talk of the dual-wielding pets starting at 29. It's not empirical proof or anything, but it's something.
Thac0
05-25-2010, 10:05 AM
I don't have any proof one way or the other. But I do have a strong memory of enchanter pets not dual wielding in classic. The 2 handed sword + Shield combo is all I remember from high level enchanters.
I thought dual wielding was Kunark for enchanter pets.Your memory is wrong. The 29 enchanter pet was able to dualwield. Just that most enchanters didnt use it since it broke mez and could not command it.
Also remember that some 2 hander weapon models look like 1 handers and some 1hand weapon models look like 2 handers. Ghoulsbane looking like a 2 hander and the Blackened Iron Bastard Sword looks like a 1 hander. Likewise An Electrum Bladed Wak (1 hander) looks like the Katana of Steel Sleet (2 hander).
Hope this helps.
Vandolas
05-25-2010, 11:22 AM
The enchanter pet was always able to accept any weapon you gave it, and use it. Here they do not use anything other than what they are created with. I always used my enchatner pet on live and it DID duel wield at 29 and beyond. It allso should be able to use what ever weapon I give it, like a Dagger of Dropping or even rusty weapons.
It is suppose to use what ever weapon you give it. Even if it is not high enough lvl to duel wield. It will just replace the weapon it was spawned with. I have tried many times to get my pet to use different weapons with all the pets from lvl 1 to the lvl 29 pet and none of them will use anything I give them. They are suppose to use any weapon you give it just like any of the other pets.
Also, the enchanter pet breaking mez WAS fixed some time after Kunark was released as well.
guineapig
05-25-2010, 12:20 PM
Hoping to see a fixed pending update message soon =)
Omnimorph
05-25-2010, 02:45 PM
I remember giving my level 1 pet a rusty dagger and a parrying dagger to make it look like it was dual wielding <3
nicemace
05-26-2010, 07:03 AM
while i was playing around in grobb tonight charming guards. i figured out why we cant make the ench pet dual wield, dunno if devs know about it or not.... or at least think i have figured it out heh.
so all the guards in grobb have a longsword and shield. now when charming i obviously wanna make him dual wield, however if i give him weps, they wont replace what weps he is currently holding... so even if i give him 2 weps it will still just hold sword and shield.
now cause the ench pet has sword and shield alrdy, when we give them weps, nothing happens. however mage/necro pets will take them cause they start with no weps.
i havent been able to test further with necro/mage pets to see if their weps change if they are alrdy holding weps.. (can be done just using different types, ie.. pet has 2 swords, change to 2 maces or whatever)
shrug just thought i'd share... i really would like my summoned pet to dual wield.
on live, i know for certain the newest weps would always replace the old weps, so if ya can fix that then our pet should be auto fixed.
Haynar
05-26-2010, 08:08 AM
I know what the issues are with enchanter pets dual wielding. I currently do not have a fix for this. Because of exploits with giving pets weapons, this is not a simple fix.
Haynar
nicemace
05-26-2010, 11:31 AM
cool cool thanks for letting us know.
guineapig
05-26-2010, 11:51 AM
I know what the issues are with enchanter pets dual wielding. I currently do not have a fix for this. Because of exploits with giving pets weapons, this is not a simple fix.
Haynar
Just curious. Is this some sort of enchanter specific pet exploit?
And by that I mean, are chanter pets are being nerfed because you can't reproduce this exploit with the other pet classes?
It would probably be a good idea to post things that are being purposefully disabled in order to avoid the massive amount of bug reports that occur. This is the first I've heard of dual wield being disabled by the devs and I have been on the server since a month into launch.
tnyadno
05-26-2010, 11:18 PM
Curious, is this a priority of any degree at the moment?
Haynar
05-27-2010, 08:35 AM
Curious, is this a priority of any degree at the moment?
It's a volunteer project.
guineapig
05-27-2010, 09:27 AM
Alright, so enchanter pet dual wielding was specifically disabled due to some exploit.
I'm not asking what the exploit was before it was disabled but was it specific to enchanter pets?
I can't thing of a single weapon combo that would give enchanter pets an advantage over necro, mage or even shaman pets.
Haynar
05-27-2010, 05:16 PM
Alright, so enchanter pet dual wielding was specifically disabled due to some exploit.
I'm not asking what the exploit was before it was disabled but was it specific to enchanter pets?
I never said enchanter pets were disabled from dual wielding. It is a side effect of other issues.
I will make it my number one priority to fix enchanter pets ASAP.
Haynar
Thac0
05-30-2010, 08:23 AM
Thank you Haynar
Haynar
06-03-2010, 11:19 PM
This should be fixed next patch. I coded up a fix today.
Haynar
Omnimorph
06-04-2010, 08:12 AM
This should be fixed next patch. I coded up a fix today.
Haynar
I love you <3
redghosthunter
06-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Love for Haynar :P
guineapig
06-22-2010, 08:00 AM
Bump!
Just wondering what the status of this is. I know it's not top priority or anything, just curious.
Landis
06-22-2010, 09:13 AM
I'm pretty sure my level 29 pet was duel wielding the other day in guk. Gave it a rusty rapier and bronze axe and saw both piercing and slashing damage.
savarin
06-22-2010, 09:37 AM
It's already been fixed
guineapig
06-22-2010, 10:24 AM
Danke!
And thanks to the developers!
I guess this bug report can be closed then?
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