To all the doomsayers:

[Tr0llb0rn]

Let me remind all the people talking about how the "box has failed". JUST last week the server had a series of conflicts that many on all sides described as the best pvp since the server opened.

Please refer to this thread that contains multiple pvp videos within as proof:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75206

This was not in some "golden age" of pvp back in January or whatever, this was LAST WEEK.

This proves that the server has what it takes to be that classic red server everyone always wanted, its 100 percent in the playerbases hands to make that happen.

To Nilbog: in classic red everquest, the best pvp has always been over contested content. The problem right now is a lack of content for MANY former players. They have full fear gear, they have full hate gear, they have farmed every valuable item from lower guk and solB 10 times over. They have leveled their main to max level, they have leveld alts to max level.

In short, they have "consumed" the content. And then just logging in to play zone plug wars or what amounts to meaningless pvp (pvp that does not have content control as a goal) gets old fast.

The remedy to this situation is: ramp up the "accelerated timeline". The pepole need content to control, which leads to pvp, which leads to what we saw last week in the above link, but on a far larger scale as all those maxed out 50's log back in to consume and fight over the new content.

This is the true situation with the server, but luckily its very easy to fix.

RELEASE THE CONTENT..and let the war begin anew.

[Mornin3.0]

I pvpd for the pvp not the content.. fail thread

[Tr0llb0rn]

I pvpd for the pvp not the content.. fail thread

you playing the wrong game then if sitting in an arena and /dueling each other for nothing is your thing.

p.s. what you said is a lie, the "best pvp since the server started" was last week over control of SolB and the dragon. Your own people said the same.

and you know this.

[bilbobaggins]

this thread makes you seem a little worried that your 400+ hours invested in r99 were for nothing. :eek:

30 players on legacy of zek right now. they'd be on r99 if the exp was more reasonable.

[heartbrand]

This thread is a sham. There is no PVP because nihilum over recruited. There will continue to be no legitimate contesting of mobs in kunark, only difference is the end game will be unbeatable because even nihilum will not have the numbers left.

In short theres no PVP here because no one has the numbers to contest nihilum on a consistent basis so how is more content for those who consumed it aka nihilum which will serve to bring even greater nihilum numbers back create more PVP? Your position is nonsensical and illogical.

[Bardalicious]

Preferred OG Rallos Zek where I could just gank some poor sucker and take his dragon loot rather than pewp sock and fight for content t b h. Mass group pvp was fun to an extent too tho, just wish Nilbog had gone with item loot like he wanted to. Tho that would have meant all the hardcore eqemu pvpers would have bitched out even quicker I guess. :o

[Tr0llb0rn]

This thread is a sham. There is no PVP


your lies are a sham

please refer to this thread from last week, that your guildmates called "the best pvp since server started":

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75206


The proof is there, feast your eyes and open your mind to the TRUTH.

[connect]

Want some real pvp? Go play Tera instead of clinging to some 10+ year old game where you know how to cheat and exploit.

[Bardalicious]

This thread is a sham. There is no PVP because nihilum over recruited. There will continue to be no legitimate contesting of mobs in kunark, only difference is the end game will be unbeatable because even nihilum will not have the numbers left.

In short theres no PVP here because no one has the numbers to contest nihilum on a consistent basis so how is more content for those who consumed it aka nihilum which will serve to bring even greater nihilum numbers back create more PVP? Your position is nonsensical and illogical.

Guess Holocaust shouldn't have cheated then quit as a result. Maybe there would still be a guild to contest against Nihilium. It's on the players as a whole for not playing, banding together and giving Nihilium a run for their money, not Nihilium's fault for guild inviting players that want to hit end game content.

Founding fathers has/had been trying to fight back against them. Unfortunately too many people bitched out of the server to give them enough of a population to recruit from now. At least they were still on the server this long after so many quit, so a great big kudo's to them for trying to keep the pvp dream alive. :cool:

And fyi, your face is a sham.

[Dullah]

I pvpd for the pvp not the content.. fail thread

So full of shit. When pvp is going on, you pve. We did fear, you guys went to hate. We did hate, you guys went to fear. We come to pvp, you guys log, with or without numbers.

[Dullah]

This thread is a sham. There is no PVP because nihilum over recruited. There will continue to be no legitimate contesting of mobs in kunark, only difference is the end game will be unbeatable because even nihilum will not have the numbers left.

In short theres no PVP here because no one has the numbers to contest nihilum on a consistent basis so how is more content for those who consumed it aka nihilum which will serve to bring even greater nihilum numbers back create more PVP? Your position is nonsensical and illogical.

By "over recruited", Heartbrand means no one wants to play with his guild of junkies and trolls.

Not that they win even when they can get the numbers in their favor.

[Dullah]

isn't tera dead already?

Pretty much.

Tera was like a single player "mmo". Few weeks and you're bored.

Theres no worthwhile end game, just some cool solo play. Even while leveling or instancing, you almost have no interaction with other players unless you press for it.

[Renian]

This thread is a sham. There is no PVP because nihilum over recruited. There will continue to be no legitimate contesting of mobs in kunark, only difference is the end game will be unbeatable because even nihilum will not have the numbers left.

In short theres no PVP here because no one has the numbers to contest nihilum on a consistent basis so how is more content for those who consumed it aka nihilum which will serve to bring even greater nihilum numbers back create more PVP? Your position is nonsensical and illogical.


starting a heartbrand post "nihilum" counter

+5

[mendan]

Heartbrand's story changes to fit his lies. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see thru his bullshit...

[hagard]

Population 30 server is a raging success

[SearyxTZ]

The problem right now is a lack of content for MANY former players. They have full fear gear, they have full hate gear, they have farmed every valuable item from lower guk and solB 10 times over. They have leveled their main to max level, they have leveld alts to max level.


True for a lot of the active players, but this isn't going to address why a lot of people stopped playing here. It's only going to placate the few dozen hardcore players who are still active. Which is fine, really, but that needs to be said.



For the other people who are on the sidelines or quit for reasons other than "we don't have enough PvE content to meatgrind through and we're bored", it may actually make things worse.

The # of zones increases. On a server that already has a terrible player-to-zone ratio (with no way of funneling people into just some of them), can this really be considered anything but a bad thing?

The gear gap increases. If anyone thought it was tough competing with Nihilum before, it's going to get harder. Big fat carebear zergs running around in full cobalt. Meaning they could slobber all over their keyboard and frantically cat-paw the WASD area with auto attack on and still kill a reasonably skilled casual red player.

The grind is extended. I don't need to say anything about this. If 1-50 is 200 hours and 51-60 is 200 hours, then we better find a good fucking way to make that bluebie treadmill interesting and not just grinding-by-myself in highkeep or lower guk or whatever. I ain't doing that, even with beloved Iksars in game.

[Tr0llb0rn]

The stars are telling me patch will be soon... you guys better get your grind on if you want those sweeeet plane of sky items to make you uber for those epic Kunark pvp batlles in the near future......

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=658836&postcount=13

And while we doing that, some failures will be getting jumped by froglocks through 15 walls and altering their own spell files to make burst of flame hit like ice commet and then claim they are pvp gods of their shitbox. lol

[PhantomRogue]

The stars are telling me patch will be soon... you guys better get your grind on if you want those sweeeet plane of sky items to make you uber for those epic Kunark pvp batlles in the near future......

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=658836&postcount=13

And while we doing that, some failures will be getting jumped by froglocks through 15 walls and altering their own spell files to make burst of flame hit like ice commet and then claim they are pvp gods of their shitbox. lol

Because we all quit over lack of content.

Planes, Kunark, Velious all will not save the server.

People quit and havent come back because of the playerbase, not the content.

[taakyn]

plane of sky gonna boost pop from 30 to 300

all nihilum members coming back

I loled

[Humerox]

True for a lot of the active players, but this isn't going to address why a lot of people stopped playing here. It's only going to placate the few dozen hardcore players who are still active. Which is fine, really, but that needs to be said.



For the other people who are on the sidelines or quit for reasons other than "we don't have enough PvE content to meatgrind through and we're bored", it may actually make things worse.

The # of zones increases. On a server that already has a terrible player-to-zone ratio (with no way of funneling people into just some of them), can this really be considered anything but a bad thing?

The gear gap increases. If anyone thought it was tough competing with Nihilum before, it's going to get harder. Big fat carebear zergs running around in full cobalt. Meaning they could slobber all over their keyboard and frantically cat-paw the WASD area with auto attack on and still kill a reasonably skilled casual red player.

The grind is extended. I don't need to say anything about this. If 1-50 is 200 hours and 51-60 is 200 hours, then we better find a good fucking way to make that bluebie treadmill interesting and not just grinding-by-myself in highkeep or lower guk or whatever. I ain't doing that, even with beloved Iksars in game.

Well said.

[Bazia]

25 players alive and thriving.

CUZ OF EXP NOT CONTENT RETARDS

[Dullah]

The next major content brings exp also. Major reasons its being suggested.

[Bazia]

yup keep up with the content and no exp increase troll. LoZ pop skyrocketing ty for help.

[Jabber]

The next major content brings exp also. Major reasons its being suggested.

blubies so dum

[Bazia]

lol LoZ so much more fun ding 18

[Dullah]

we were told plane of hate patch was gonna pack the newbie grounds with new players, what happened?????????????

Why would planes bring new players? No one said that.

[Bazia]

oh yeah people said hate/sol ro would bring people back. it was ur faggot buttbuddy Rydar/Trollborn/whatever retarded handle he goes by now.

btw grats on breaking 30 pop

[Bazia]

nvm its below 30 again

[Dullah]

Ahemm

Never said they'd bring new players.

And yes, it did for a time bring some old players back, at times even around 100 online. Unfortunately it coincided with the release of 3 major titles.

[PhantomRogue]

The next major content brings exp also. Major reasons its being suggested.

Ok, this is the last time im going to try to explain this to you. I will try to spell it out in absolutes.

Assuming you are correct, in that all the 50s that left, will come back when Kunark gets released.

Population Spikes hard at Kunark Release: 120
People go apeshit, begin to level to 60.
People get tired of the grind... AGAIN. Population slowly drops. (PROVEN track record of happening, its what happened already) To roughly 80. Most won't make it to 60.
So you now have 80 people.
Which you will then say, See, I told you Kunark will bring people back! And you will gloat and gloat.

Which means you were right... right?

But when those same people quit NOW... what happens when they realize its the same people. Fact: tiger can't change his stripes. People quit once when there was "content;" they will quit again.

And the population slowly drops (as it is doing now) to the 30 people on 'peak' times.

So, since we are using historical evidence, things that are happening now, and using your 'content brings people back' argument.

I have proven that no amount of content will bring any SUSTAINED growth to this server.

Zero people will START NEW (twinks from Blue or Alts don't count as an actual new person), and the server will again, have no fresh new blood.

When there is zero water filtering into the tower, the existing water supply slowly evaporates until none is left. You need people to start playing here. Not quitting.

No one, in this day and age, that remembers original EQ, has the time required to sit through 500 hours of grinding, JUST to possibly find some PvP. People who played in 1999 were 15-25ish. Its now almost 15 years later. No 30 year old has the time to spare.

You have to evolve with the times. Which is why games today DON'T have the treadmill that EQ did. They understand that there are so many things people have to do, and can do, that in order to succeed, you have to make the game accessible. Red99 is the LEAST accessible thing on the EQEmulator family of servers, which is why its almost the lowest populated, 'legit' server.

[Tr0llb0rn]

No one, in this day and age, that remembers original EQ, has the time required to sit through 500 hours of grinding, JUST to possibly find some PvP.


Sorry, but if you are here JUST to find some pvp, you got the wrong game and EMU.

Get that through your skull. This project is about classic EQ as a whole, NOT "just some pvp".

I hear there are already some lvl 50's on legacy of zek, you should check it out.

I have to repeat this: IF you are not a fan of 1999 style classic EQ... GTFO.

[PhantomRogue]

Sorry, but if you are here JUST to find some pvp, you got the wrong game and EMU.

Get that through your skull. This project is about classic EQ as a whole, NOT "just some pvp".

I hear there are already some lvl 50's on legacy of zek, you should check it out.

I have to repeat this: IF you are not a fan of 1999 style classic EQ... GTFO.

90% of the population did GTFO #winning?

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Guess Holocaust shouldn't have cheated then quit as a result. Maybe there would still be a guild to contest against Nihilium. It's on the players as a whole for not playing, banding together and giving Nihilium a run for their money, not Nihilium's fault for guild inviting players that want to hit end game content.

Founding fathers has/had been trying to fight back against them. Unfortunately too many people bitched out of the server to give them enough of a population to recruit from now. At least they were still on the server this long after so many quit, so a great big kudo's to them for trying to keep the pvp dream alive. :cool:

And fyi, your face is a sham.

[Tr0llb0rn]

90% of the population did GTFO #winning?

classic red EQ was just not for them. This is a niche of a niche of a niche. The wise understood this from the get go.

The wise also appreciate that the devs of this project put the work in to put this up for those of us that do appreciate this authentic 1999 style red legit server.

Some are just not upto the challenge. Thats ok. There is always legacy of zek. (lol)

[hijinks]

I just don't get how the devs sit idly by and have nothing to say regarding any of these comments. The board is FILLED with absolute negativity about the server, before it was a select group of VERY vocal people doing the talking-- now it has slowly grown into even the most dedicated people starting to become doubters..

A simple forum search will show you that most of the dev work is going towards releasing Velious on Blue, let's not forget that Red99 is the red headed step child of Project1999. Even the blue players are complaining about lack of content at this point, it seems like a lot to manage for the current staff and they don't seem very trustworthy of new additions to their team which causes a problem.

History has shown that the devs have attempted to apply the same logic on Red as they did on Blue, it just doesn't work and something needs to be done to save the pop, although I think it's too late.

Two very simple questions to this problem that can fix it with minimal effort:

What can the devs do to promote new players joining the server??
A: Increase XP by A LOT, even if it's just weekend based.. it needs to be done. Most of the people that played classic EQ are grown ass adults now with different priorities, and have been changed to expect WoW type EXP and progression, nobody especially new players want to grind this shit out at such a horrendous pace.

What can the devs do to bring back the 50s that quit that don't logon anymore??
A: Content, YT, Leaderboards, things that engage the population

Any further non-action from devs further reiterates the point they either just don't care, or don't have the time but boosting EXP and adding things that have been done I can't imagine take up that much time...

Server pop is <30 boys, what's it going to be.. keep doing what you've been doing and expecting different results is insanity.. we just don't think you care anymore but am surprised that you don't take any onus on yourselves with the population dropping so drastically, like it or not your name is attached to the project.

[hagard]

Fuk it let the retards argue while population continues to drop enjoy your "classic" server with 30 people

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

The devs aren't making a server to cater to whiny pussies.

You already trolled them into global ooc and massively increased experience.

You all still cried like little kids who didn't get candy at the checkout. It's pathetic.

You were told what this server was going to be when you came here. You knew this was going to be modeled after Project1999, not failbox shit vztz(it died for a reason, it was a joke)

You still came. You still cried.

It takes a special kind of retarded mongoloid to be told what you're getting into, and then cry about what you got into once you did.

[hagard]

Shouldn't have trusted blubies to make a red server

[hijinks]

I personally don't play because of the domino effect of other people quitting, nobody wants to play on a box by themselves.. I'd like to see things done to cater to the population that quit, really I could care less.. I'm just amazed that the population has dropped so drastically and the people behind the project act like it does not matter to em, they can't force people to play but they can surely take on suggestions and TRY things, whats the worse that can happen? it doesn't work? switch it back.. not a big deal.. the alternative is the pop keeps dropping and they eventually just shut down the server

[hagard]

vztz lasted 4+ years

red won't see 1 year.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

I still can't find it on server select. Someone point me to it? How come none of you can point me to it when I ask, but you talk about how great it was? I just want to see this superbly accurate classic Everquest PVP server that is 100% legit again!

Lawl.

[Bazia]

its not a challenge fagt many of us have high levels on red99 its a ghost town and not fun get it?

[Jabber]

I quit cause r99 dead and boring as fuk

[Bazia]

I still can't find it on server select. Someone point me to it? How come none of you can point me to it when I ask, but you talk about how great it was? I just want to see this superbly accurate classic Everquest PVP server that is 100% legit again!

Lawl.

server in same spirit of vztz on select list. Called Legacy of Zek, guess what it has higher pop then red99 SURPRISED?

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

You sound mad that you lost a pvp server to bluebie rejects from P99 blue.

[Bazia]

who lost what? server lost population yeah you're right it did.

[hagard]

Harry mad

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

I'm quite amused by the flood of tears from self-described pvp toughguys getting shit on by pvp newbie rejects that came here from Blue99.

Quite amused...

[hagard]

Had 1 pvp death my whole stay on r99 not mad glad to realize a true waste of time

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

If you weren't mad you would have left the forums already to go frolick on the free levels no difficulty server with your fruity friends (who also lost Red99)

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

I bet it won't include Holocaust, since they lost to the bluebie rejects months ago.

[Bazia]

only people left are those too immersed with 4+ level 50 toons in planar

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Quitting the game because they got caught cheating lawl

[hagard]

Actually i give it up to Holo their A-team quit at the perfect time. Didnt waste a minute on dead box. Ill give credit where its due, Holocaust won the server

$$

[hagard]

Well done, i along with many others tip my hat to u and Team Alpha Holocaust. Well played

You too good sir /salute

[Dullah]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranaldi
Actually i give it up to Holo their A-team quit at the perfect time. Didnt waste a minute on dead box. Ill give credit where its due, Holocaust won the server
$$
Loitering around the forum of the server you "quit" trying to win forumquest because you lost in game and are too ashamed to log in isn't quitting.

[Bazia]

What is "forumquest"?

This server is dead flat-out pop is around 25 on average and never breaks 50 even when guilds are raiding with 20+.

Still a good catalyst to communicate new pvp servers or new mmos with a EQ pvp community though.

[jjgerman]

you guys over complicate this issue every day


1. PvP'ers left because of a jacked up resist system , that is the MAIN issue. I started the server personally with about 5 RL friends from tallon /sullen zek. No real connection to VZTZ box at all. We all quit due to magic resist primarly.


2. Blues left cuz they found out that farming the same dragon with no chance of death 500x is boring.


Now you got 30 or so retards left logging in, that have never been good at anything , ever.
Listening to them for advice on how to make a server better?

The only ones that absolutly dont understand why the other people left, because they are STILL playing.

You want GM's to listen?

No one log in for a month., zero pop,

You cant do it though, cuz your cracked out fat ass losers addicted to pixels, that just want a larger population to use your non contested loots against at this point.

[deneauth]

I am just playing for a change of pace from blue, its sad to see the population so low there are some nice people playing on red. At least the ones I have been playing with are cool.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Quitting the game because they got caught cheating lawl

[EQtrader]

/who all harrison

0 players found online.

[Bazia]

try project zek alot of new people starting here

[bilbobaggins]

classic red EQ was just not for them. This is a niche of a niche of a niche. The wise understood this from the get go.

The wise also appreciate that the devs of this project put the work in to put this up for those of us that do appreciate this authentic 1999 style red legit server.

Some are just not upto the challenge. Thats ok. There is always legacy of zek. (lol)

you're the thick headed kid on the playgound who wants to play a game with everyone else but will only play the game his way. when someone suggests a compromise to make the game more fun for more players, you tell them to go play elsewhere. the next day you come out to recess and notice that all those kids grouped up and are playing their own game without you. now you sit under the slide eating sand for the rest of the day by yourself.

it's funny though... i think most of us actually want to play on r99 because of how much more polished and complete it is. it's too bad the staff wont compromise so we can all play together.

i got to level 25 in 4 hours played yesterday.... soon I will catch up to the level of my r99 toon and there will be no incentive to come back~

[bilbobaggins]

posting on behalf of dullah so he doesn't have to:

"exp is already increased, staff already compromised"

[bilbobaggins]

posting on behalf of trollborn so he doesn't have to:

"you knew about the long grind when you signed up, maybe you should check out ez server"

[Tr0llb0rn]

you're the thick headed kid on the playgound who wants to play a game with everyone else but will only play the game his way. ~


Wrong. YOU are the one that wants the game to be played his way. I came here to take what was offered, a classic authentic 1999 style red experience.


You see that is how legit servers work, they are not a confused mismash of "compromises" they have a roadmap and a stated goal and they stick to it.

Good luck on your near /instant 50 on Legacy of Zek though. I'm kinda afraid to follow the patch notes for it though out of fear of whiplash looking at the notes-based-on-who-crys-the-most-this-month system.

Enjoy taking turns eating sand on LoZ. We will be on a stable, authentic and well managed and planned classic red server. And you know this.

[PhantomRogue]

Wrong. YOU are the one that wants the game to be played his way. I came here to take what was offered, a classic authentic 1999 style red experience.


You see that is how legit servers work, they are not a confused mismash of "compromises" they have a roadmap and a stated goal and they stick to it.

Good luck on your near /instant 50 on Legacy of Zek though. I'm kinda afraid to follow the patch notes for it though out of fear of whiplash looking at the notes-based-on-who-crys-the-most-this-month system.

Enjoy taking turns eating sand on LoZ. We will be on a stable, authentic and well managed and planned classic red server. And you know this.

We came here for a Classic PvP experience. What we didn't expect was:

COMPLETELY broken resists at server launch.
Massive cheating at launch, leading to completely unbalanced gameplay.
Complete lack of common sense when punishments were handed out. (Banning people using the same strat that GMs saw other guilds using and not punishing them)
Flunkies from Blue showing up and gaying the server out.

All of those things lead to this server having a max population of 40... not even a year after its release.

Enjoy your solo guild and no competition experience. But that's what you want anyway. Have fun.

[bilbobaggins]

Wrong. YOU are the one that wants the game to be played his way. I came here to take what was offered, a classic authentic 1999 style red experience.

if its just me, why did LoZ pop get to 50 yesterday?



authentic and well managed and planned classic red server. And you know this.

authentic and well managed. tee hee.

r99 has things that are not classic simply because there are some things that were added later in the timeline that makes sense.

LoZ has even more things that are not classic for the same reason, some changes just make sense and should have been there from the start.

omg target rings not classic... ruining my immersion.

[bilbobaggins]

you'e argueing with one of the worst players ever to play on red, his pvp death count is probably somewhere over 400 by now.

good point. i'm done trying.

[hagard]

Loitering around the forum of the server you "quit" trying to win forumquest because you lost in game and are too ashamed to log in isn't quitting.

95% of the people who post on these boards either don't play/quit. why the QQ?
And I didn't lose the game I only invested 2days played, that's a whole lot better than most of you box warriors can say.

[jdklaw]

you'e argueing with one of the worst players ever to play on red, his pvp death count is probably somewhere over 400 by now.

do you know who tr0llb0rn is?

good point. i'm done trying.

on fiegi's nuts

http://www.bellybillboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/spike_chester.gif

Contest content, have big wars, have good times.

Release new zones, make some bug fixes, bring people back, have more pop, have more wars, have good times.

EXP boosted weekends or temp span of time and see how things play out, bring people back, have more pop, have more wars, have less crying in forum, have more newcommers and people that quit cus lvl 35 was too hard, have good times.

We asked Cinda why his peeps arn't logging in for peeveepees anymore and he said they are all sad and butthurt; please get over it and try try again, we want to pvp.

[Tr0llb0rn]

We came here for a Classic PvP experience. What we didn't expect was:

COMPLETELY broken resists at server launch.
Massive cheating at launch, leading to completely unbalanced gameplay.
Complete lack of common sense when punishments were handed out. (Banning people using the same strat that GMs saw other guilds using and not punishing them)
Flunkies from Blue showing up and gaying the server out.

All of those things lead to this server having a max population of 40... not even a year after its release.

Enjoy your solo guild and no competition experience. But that's what you want anyway. Have fun.

look, im having fun playing on it, but its gonna be dead in a month. People are gonna grind to 50 and get fed up with the bugs and such. Until them, its game on. There are so many things wrong, but i can level fast and kill people so ill do it for a time.


see you in a month in Field of Bones bro, when you done playin EQ-counterstrike:hackers delite edition.

[hagard]

do you know who tr0llb0rn is?



on fiegi's nuts

http://www.bellybillboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/spike_chester.gif

Contest content, have big wars, have good times.

Release new zones, make some bug fixes, bring people back, have more pop, have more wars, have good times..

EXP boosted weekends or temp span of time and see how things play out, bring people back, have more pop, have more wars, have less crying in forum, have more newcommers and people that quit cus lvl 35 was too hard, have good times.

We asked Cinda why his peeps arn't logging in for peeveepees anymore and he said they are all sad and butthurt; please get over it and try try again, we want to pvp.

nilly bleeds blue

[jdklaw]

nilly bleeds blue

we bleed blue so much that we fought a week straight over nagafen, won it, and FF cried bluebies beat us and all went and quit playing

we bleed blue so much that we claim victory over all raid targets and zones

a "red" by your definition is someone who is a forum warrior and global ooc spammer

a real champ collects all the booty

[Seaweedpimp]

^ lawlz

[Mornin3.0]

we bleed blue so much that we fought a week straight over nagafen, won it, and FF cried bluebies beat us and all went and quit playing


I know its a serious waste of my time posting this... but you didnt win nagafen.. Nihilum had 0 attempts until a holiday weekend came along and you out poopsocked FF... While i was out chillin on a beach... you were in your basement ignoring your kids fully immersed in a dragon raid... fucking loser...

[heartbrand]

wont be collecting any booty pretty soon because there won't be enough people left to beat raids in kunark and velious, lol 3 tank defensive rotations with 6+ clerics minimum and no charm pets GG

[heartbrand]

I know its a serious waste of my time posting this... but you didnt win nagafen.. Nihilum had 0 attempts until a holiday weekend came along and you out poopsocked FF... While i was out chillin on a beach... you were in your basement ignoring your kids fully immersed in a dragon raid... fucking loser...

[Tr0llb0rn]

^ lawlz

You made 3 videos and a long thread about "the best pvp in the boxes history" last week, and this week after loseing on the 4th day and loseing the dragon spawn..... /who all founding fathers zero??


Four days of "the best pvp in the boxes history" and then a mass quit after Heartbrand wipes your raid on Naggy w/ 20 invanders hoops and FGs??

The pvp is still around, you just have to be like Nihilum and pick yourselves back up after a loss and get back in the ring bro.

Its the classic red EQ way.

[jdklaw]

I know its a serious waste of my time posting this... but you didnt win nagafen.. Nihilum had 0 attempts until a holiday weekend came along and you out poopsocked FF... While i was out chillin on a beach... you were in your basement ignoring your kids fully immersed in a dragon raid... fucking loser...

heh was won while u guys were on a 6 hr cr; you might not know the deets cus u and HB ran to zl's and gated soon as engagements started


a mass quit after Heartbrand wipes your raid on Naggy w/ 20 invanders hoops and FGs??


lol

[Tr0llb0rn]

I know its a serious waste of my time posting this... but you didnt win nagafen.. Nihilum had 0 attempts until a holiday weekend came along and you out poopsocked FF... While i was out chillin on a beach... you were in your basement ignoring your kids fully immersed in a dragon raid... fucking loser...

I think you are forgetting that 6 hour corpse campin/mass defeat we dished out on your guys on day 4.

That and the hoopdreams failure on naggy seemed to have broken your back.

See a chiropractor and try try again. (unless you just thirsty for that dragon loot and now dont log on because you know heartbrand will NEVER lead a sucessful raid.. hoopdreams or not)

[heartbrand]

I have the logs of all the fights, will you be willing to delete your character if they are posted which show no hoops as you claim? Thanks.

[heartbrand]

BTW you realize I'm not the raid leader right? I can't charm Fire Giant's, I can't patch heal the chanters on charm breaks, I can't pell fear from the tank, I can't bard mez or kite breaks or tank breaks, I can't CH the tank, I can't run in and DPS between 12 sec AE. Thanks.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I have the logs of all the fights, will you be willing to delete your character if they are posted which show no hoops as you claim? Thanks.

The words of Heartbrand are like poison in the ear.

This is Known. It is Known.



(season final tonight baby!!! p.s. that means u a liar, always have been)

[hagard]

will you be willing to delete your character

That would be like a shot gun blast to the face, definite No

[Mornin3.0]

I honestly don't know what 6 HR CR u nigs r talking about.. thursday night.. dragon was up and I had my corpse.. that was night 5...

And we didnt use ivandyrs hoops on naggy u easily trolled tards...

And Heartbrand doesnt lead anything.. tards..

stop being bad at games/forums/ooc

[Tr0llb0rn]

stop being bad at games/forums/ooc


So ironic comming from someone who was a member of now.... THREE different sad failed guilds of mass quitters lolz

Keep rollin the dice, MAYBE oneday you can win a trophy too? (actually just try ez server)

[Mornin3.0]

you hide behind a fake forum account... you have obviously been butt hurt in game too many times... and i have been 5 guilds... all served their purpose very well..

[hijinks]

I know its a serious waste of my time posting this... but you didnt win nagafen.. Nihilum had 0 attempts until a holiday weekend came along and you out poopsocked FF... While i was out chillin on a beach... you were in your basement ignoring your kids fully immersed in a dragon raid... fucking loser...

Not to single you out or anything, you're probably one of the quieter ones since you joined the fray later on, but the hate that stews inside some of the players that called this server a home for awhile was borderline ridiculous, the RL attacks like above is a turn off to the casual player. Really, bottom line is some people here can't draw the line between winning/losing in a game, and respecting the player on the other side.

Like it or not at least at some point we were all together in this and really the community itself along with the neglect from the admins brought this server down. I have gamed for 15+ years online and have never seen a larger group of anti-social hate spewing derelicts as I have on this box. I expect more of the same in response to this post, but really there were players on here that wanted nothing else than to drive people away from the game, throw that on top of the admin neglect and you wont get much resistance, especially with the onslaught of new games that were released this year and are going to be released (SWTOR, D3, GW2, Tera, etc)

It's just a game people, there was so little at stake here on this box to begin with .. claiming or actually 'winning' the box has about as much value as a toy in a happy meal. It exists in such a small vacuum of the internet, that we all could have done a little extra to make it more fun. The term "don't shit in your backyard" comes to mind.

[nabsev]

Guys we need to more content to spread out the already abysmal population even further. Fuck the server health I want dem kunark pixels

[Tr0llb0rn]

you hide behind a fake forum account... you have obviously been butt hurt in game too many times... and i have been 5 guilds... all served their purpose very well..

yes, together combined they got you to now rage quit w/ zero raid target loots.


/clap

you iz THIRSTY

[hagard]

Guys we need to more content to spread out the already abysmal population even further. Fuck the server health I want dem kunark pixels

$$

[Seaweedpimp]

You made 3 videos and a long thread about "the best pvp in the boxes history" last week, and this week after loseing on the 4th day and loseing the dragon spawn..... /who all founding fathers zero??


Four days of "the best pvp in the boxes history" and then a mass quit after Heartbrand wipes your raid on Naggy w/ 20 invanders hoops and FGs??

The pvp is still around, you just have to be like Nihilum and pick yourselves back up after a loss and get back in the ring bro.

Its the classic red EQ way.



Can you re write that please?


In other notes, I guarentee you the reason i dont log in daily anymore has nothing to do with dragons, you might be able to pull that cord on anyone else, but ive killed too many fucking dragons and i could care less about them.

If i wanted to get pixels i would jump on blue where my blue guild monoplizes dragons so hard, that it would take months to even steal one thing from us, that we wanted.



Those videos, were the average pvp i saw every night.

I cant believe you take my videos, of ff stomping that ass, and promote it. Thanks!

[Mornin3.0]

Not to single you out or anything, you're probably one of the quieter ones since you joined the fray later on, but the hate that stews inside some of the players that called this server a home for awhile was borderline ridiculous, the RL attacks like above is a turn off to the casual player. Really, bottom line is some people here can't draw the line between winning/losing in a game, and respecting the player on the other side.

Like it or not at least at some point we were all together in this and really the community itself along with the neglect from the admins brought this server down. I have gamed for 15+ years online and have never seen a larger group of anti-social hate spewing derelicts as I have on this box. I expect more of the same in response to this post, but really there were players on here that wanted nothing else than to drive people away from the game, throw that on top of the admin neglect and you wont get much resistance, especially with the onslaught of new games that were released this year and are going to be released (SWTOR, D3, GW2, Tera, etc)

It's just a game people, there was so little at stake here on this box to begin with .. claiming or actually 'winning' the box has about as much value as a toy in a happy meal. It exists in such a small vacuum of the internet, that we all could have done a little extra to make it more fun.


Well said.. I actually do agree but also understand that Everquest PvP brings together some of the worst people on the internet. The shit talking that comes with the game really has no morals and is something many from blue were not ready for when they came here. I have no problem with you calling me out because I will be first to admit that on the forums and in Global OOC I am an asshole, spew bullshit lies, and have no respect for others(which is much different than the way I am with guildies or talking in tells). This behavior probably has turned off many people from the server but lets be honest, if they couldn't handle that type of bullshit, they couldn't handle an Everquest PvP server where a large part of the communities goal is only to grief others(something that I also have fun doing and expect others to grief me back).


Pro tip: Do not let anyone on internet know anything about you irl.... Expecially on a EQ PvP server/forums.

[Mornin3.0]

yes, together combined they got you to now rage quit w/ zero raid target loots.


/clap

you iz THIRSTY

lol that you think I rage


or that I quit...

do your homework before you try to troll me..

[nilbog]

To Nilbog: in classic red everquest, the best pvp has always been over contested content. The problem right now is a lack of content for MANY former players. They have full fear gear, they have full hate gear, they have farmed every valuable item from lower guk and solB 10 times over. They have leveled their main to max level, they have leveld alts to max level.

Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp serve (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=1678)r is Rogean's. The pve server (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=787) is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

[hijinks]

Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp serve (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=1678)r is Rogean's. The pve server (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=787) is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

Always nice to see a response from some1 on the team-- thanks.

I think the community has tried several different forms of getting our message across. Really, I think most of the community feels that he probably doesn't even see our message. Rogean made a post about the server a few months ago, and I didn't see anything but global OOC get implemented, and it helped for awhile.. but had it been in since the get-go I think the server would have been more successful.

Look, we all know this isn't your job and that you don't get paid to do it-- we can all appreciate that but the community as a whole has come to grips with the fact that the server will not succeed with the attention it has seen thus far, the proof is in the population. Simple research of your Red99 database will clearly show the slow drop in population in correlation to the requests on the forum, it's not rocket science.

I guess the benefit is that Red won't be wiped and if Rogean ever does decide to be more active in the community and instill confidence back in its inhabitants that we'll have characters to come back to.. till then.. it is what it is I guess.

[Lazortag]

I think the community has tried several different forms of getting our message across. ...

I think the problem is that the community hasn't tried being polite as a form of getting its message across. If you can link me one discussion on this forum where the participants are even remotely civil to each other and to the staff, I'll be surprised.

[hijinks]

I think the problem is that the community hasn't tried being polite as a form of getting its message across. If you can link me one discussion on this forum where the participants are even remotely civil to each other and to the staff, I'll be surprised.

I'd check the forum posts of late November, early December.. for sure.

I get it tho, sometimes you gotta walk a day in their shoes to feel what they're feeling.. People forget this is a hobby for them, I'd be upset also if I came home from an 8 hr shift, or a 45 hr work week and worked any hours I could into this project only to see posts of "burn it down" "not fast enough, not good enough" -- I get it, but somehow they have to filter that shit out and continue to do what they can..

I think the BIGGEST culprit here which is very fixable is:

Communication. Communication goes a long way, and there has been very little of it here other than Amelinda on an island by herself-- anybody else notice shes been MIA? I wonder why, probably got tired of deferring and eating all the negativity

[Mornin3.0]

Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp serve (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=1678)r is Rogean's. The pve server (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=787) is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.


People may have trolled and said not nice things about a staff that dedicates their free time but.... the truth remains that the communication between the staff and the community has lacked and invited such trolls. If the staff was more open with their communication and involved with the community then I assure you the trolls would have nothing to troll about. The successes and failures of this box remain ABSOLUTELY on the shoulders of the staff and if I was staff I would take responsibility for those successes/failures.. not blame an internet community. I do sympathize with staff whos names are not Rogean though.. It appears after launch he decided to be busy with something else and put it on other peoples shoulder without giving them any actual final say.

[jdklaw]

Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

[Lazortag]

People may have trolled and said not nice things about a staff that dedicates their free time but.... the truth remains that the communication between the staff and the community has lacked and invited such trolls. If the staff was more open with their communication and involved with the community then I assure you the trolls would have nothing to troll about. The successes and failures of this box remain ABSOLUTELY on the shoulders of the staff and if I was staff I would take responsibility for those successes/failures.. not blame an internet community. I do sympathize with staff whos names are not Rogean though.. It appears after launch he decided to be busy with something else and put it on other peoples shoulder without giving them any actual final say.

They communicated with us a lot more than they did for blue99, and blue did just fine. I feel like I've said this before.

[SamwiseBanned]

Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp serve (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=1678)r is Rogean's. The pve server (http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=787) is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

a side of nilbog i havent seen. very good post. wish we could have had discussions with rogean about this a lot earlier :( thanks for the work you put in.

[jdklaw]

The successes and failures of this box remain ABSOLUTELY on the shoulders of the staff and if I was staff I would take responsibility for those successes/failures.. not blame an internet community.


absolutely on the shoulders of the staff? lol

ya its their responsibility that you have fun, not yours. You want to spam grief and cry on forums when you don't get your way and then say its devs fault your not having fun

[Bazia]

server dead thats why its not fun.

[PhantomRogue]

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.


I have yet to ever see Rogean reach out and even talk to anyone on the PvP server about changes/etc.

If he wants real conversation, there are plenty of people that know the server well, that can have real discussion. They are the ones who aren't hiding behind 50 random accounts, or have been IP banned over and over.

Rogean just has to ask the right people and the right things will get done. People just have no faith he even cares anymore.

[Harr1son]

harrison has trolled the fuck out of dojii behind belief so hes okay in my book

behind belief ya'll

[Mornin3.0]

tiger tiger woods yall