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Grimmly Fireforge
06-02-2012, 01:41 PM
The population has really taken a hit and I feel it is partially because there are a bunch of withstanding development issues that have prevented people from playing here that could really use a patch. For example, Kanras said he has fixed the weapon-skill bug and it just needs to be patched in by Rogean. This was a month ago. I was wondering if we can expect a patch in June?

I would love to play but it is virtually impossible as a melee class if getting a weapon skill raise is as rare as hitting the lotto like it is now.

engelbert
06-02-2012, 01:46 PM
WHEN IS OUR PATCH ROGAINE

Grimmly Fireforge
06-02-2012, 01:50 PM
Not that I don't agree with you if that is true but this is the Blue99 forum not the Red 99 one.. Anyways, I just want to say again that the weapon-skill bug makes it CRIPPLINGLY impossible to play a melee class on Blue 99. This has prevented me and many others from playing. If you see my thread about it on the bug forums, here (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74790), you can find a dozen or more other people who agree with me.

Kanras has said he has tinkered with it to make it easier. It just needs to be patched in by Rogean. This was a month ago. With the server population suffering it seems counter-intuitive to wait over a month to patch a bug that is already worked on and makes it unbearable to want to play on P99 as a melee class.

Namegen_Isterrible
06-02-2012, 02:11 PM
What? Melee skillups are THAT bugged?

It felt slow with my sham and rogue that I leveled recently, but not even close to CRIPPLINGLY slow. The rogue got powerleveled to the point his skills were all 40+ too low and they still all caught up with under 100 dex within 3-4 hours in a group.

Nuesnada
06-02-2012, 02:13 PM
its not crippling use training point to keep one primary skill near max. im averaging 1 skill up in 3 to 4 mobs so thats what 40 swings or so on level 10 mobs. it does go up just not fast.

You will not have all your weapons skill maxed but you can keep one near it.

Tanarel 52 ranger , Zoler 10th war

ps People always seem to forget that the devs of these servers have THEIR OWN LIVES this is not a JOB TO THEM. It is a hobby for them. Just because YOU as player want something does not mean your ENTITLED to it here on p1999/ Red99. As many have said before " it is their sandbox we just get to play and pee in it". I remember someone posting that nilbog didnt care if the server had a small population as long as those who played here got to enjoy Classic EQ and it was not forgoton <not a perfect quote but then again i dont rem the post well>

Namegen_Isterrible
06-02-2012, 02:18 PM
Go back to your own forums, ya damn reds.

webrunner5
06-02-2012, 02:47 PM
He is right about the skillups. And also the problem with mobs running away like hell and eratic doing it. Ain't no way you can have a Warrior or a Monk right now as a start up without pulling out your hair since the last patch. It really does suck.

It has hurt the population like it or not. There is a reason there are like 200 people on at a time and it has added to it. If you are level 25 and have Root or Snare then you won't notice crap. GO start up a Warrior with its crappy weapon and try that. Good luck.

Grimmly Fireforge
06-02-2012, 03:07 PM
The weapon-skill bug IS crippling, especially at the lower-levels. My Monk has used nothing but 1HB weapons and I grinded to level 8. My 1HB skill is 13. All my other skills like Dual Wield are something like 50 if I recall correctly. I'm sorry, but that's not classic. And nor was it ever like that on this server until now. That's a bug. A game-breaking bug that makes people not want to play this server ever.

"It's their server so shut up" is all well and good but the problem has already been fixed by Kanras a month ago it just needs a patch by Rogean to implement it. I waited a month to make this thread.

Nuesnada
06-02-2012, 03:22 PM
Guess have to be blunt.

1. IF this weapon skill up is so troubling to you then stop and take a break read the boards so you know when its fixed.

2. Nilbog and devs can take 1 month 2 month 4months whatever they want to put in patch wil you still paly ??? I will gues probably yes, why? we love the game.

3. the server will continue fine. People will play on it and If a few people taking a break over this issue it will not spell the doom of the server.

Wish i could find the post some one quoted nilbog about his server pop post.

Tanarel 52 ranger , Zoler 10th war

Grimmly Fireforge
06-02-2012, 03:30 PM
Guess have to be blunt.

1. IF this weapon skill up is so troubling to you then stop and take a break read the boards so you know when its fixed.

2. Nilbog and devs can take 1 month 2 month 4months whatever they want to put in patch wil you still paly ??? I will gues probably yes, why? we love the game.

3. the server will continue fine people will play it and a few people taking a break over this issue will not spell the doom of the server.

Wish i could find the post some one quoted nilbog about his server pop post.

Tanarel 52 ranger , Zoler 10th war

Calm down buddy. When I found this bug I made a thread like a normal person in a calm manner on the bug forum over a month ago. Kanras looked into it and posted in the thread saying he fixed it, but it has not been implemented in-game yet because it needs a patch. After that, I waited a month to make this thread where I'm simply asking if we can expect a patch this month.

You act like I am blowing my top when I am simply asking a question, take your "ungrateful" schtick elsewhere.

Nuesnada
06-02-2012, 03:43 PM
Ok Grimmly calming down

True you just asked a question. You do you have your fix pending though, and I understand how frustrating waiting for patch can be. The patch will come just be patient was almost 2 months for recent patch i wanted to happen and it was not complete.


Tanarel 52 Ranger , Zoler 10th war

nilbog
06-02-2012, 04:39 PM
As lead content developer, I wish a patch would happen every day. That helps me get changes I made further tested; that helps you to see the results of these changes.

As server administrator, Rogean is in charge of the patch process and when the patches occur.

So, hopefully soon, but definitely sooner than later.

Hope that helps.

Grimmly Fireforge
06-02-2012, 06:03 PM
Cool, thank you nilbog! :cool:

PsychoTass
06-02-2012, 08:41 PM
As lead content developer, I wish a patch would happen every day. That helps me get changes I made further tested; that helps you to see the results of these changes.

As server administrator, Rogean is in charge of the patch process and when the patches occur.

So, hopefully soon, but definitely sooner than later.

Hope that helps.

Sounds good!

webrunner5
06-02-2012, 09:37 PM
Happy days are here. Thanks.

lethdar
06-03-2012, 08:36 AM
Concerned members of the forum, if you want there to be a patch then perhaps you should log into starwars and ask rogean to do so.

Slave
06-03-2012, 08:40 AM
Something patching these server freezes and login server disconnects would be nice.

Teddie1056
06-03-2012, 08:42 AM
Perhaps this is the patch...

Slave
06-03-2012, 08:45 AM
2k will get you 5 that it's not.

LiQuid
06-03-2012, 08:56 AM
Been playing a new monk and he's level 10 but his highest melee skill is around 30. Reports on the bugginess of the melee skillups has not been overstated.

fadetree
06-04-2012, 08:34 AM
Well, I pushed along with 2hb recently and discovered that :

1. Its really painfully slow to start.
2. Once I got past around 35 skill or so, it suddenly sped up to what I remember as normal rates.

Rayzn
06-04-2012, 09:14 AM
My alt is a SK and my weapon skills defense skills all go up fine in the time it takes to level just because it isn't maxing out at level 5 don't mean that skill ups are broken. Melee classes are harder to play anyway especially if you're using a rusty sword and keep trying to fight even cons.

Bohab
06-04-2012, 09:19 AM
My alt is a SK and my weapon skills defense skills all go up fine in the time it takes to level just because it isn't maxing out at level 5 don't mean that skill ups are broken. Melee classes are harder to play anyway especially if you're using a rusty sword and keep trying to fight even cons.

Nah... I have strictly been using a Granite Face Grinder with a RBG on my paladin (level 5 now) and the weaponskills are not increasing reasonably... For all the trash mobs I killed to reach five he has something like 8 2HB since level 1. I have made several melee characters on this server and never had they had this problem. Something is broken.

Rayzn
06-04-2012, 09:31 AM
HAHAHAHA I called it level 5 complaining about his skill levels!

Danth
06-04-2012, 09:36 AM
That skills will raise somewhat faster on low-level characters has already been confirmed for the next patch, so not even the devs think everything is peachy now.

Danth

Rayzn
06-04-2012, 09:40 AM
Oh really? So it's not just because people complain that come from fast games or other servers? It's because after all this time of these servers running they just now realized that is a problem. You must be right.

Bohab
06-04-2012, 09:43 AM
HAHAHAHA I called it level 5 complaining about his skill levels!

Of course I'm going to complain that the skill ups are broken at level 5... The lower levels are the easiest times to keep them all capped. It's important start them early. I wouldn't want to be in my 20s with 18 2HB trying to solo? I've kept skills capped since level 1 on all my melee characters and suddenly I am unable to cap a single weaponskill. Little strange eh? I find you silly sir.

Oh really? So it's not just because people complain that come from fast games or other servers? It's because after all this time of these servers running they just now realized that is a problem. You must be right.

No. Something broke last patch. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Bardalicious
06-04-2012, 09:54 AM
Nah... I have strictly been using a Granite Face Grinder with a RBG on my paladin (level 5 now) and the weaponskills are not increasing reasonably... For all the trash mobs I killed to reach five he has something like 8 2HB since level 1. I have made several melee characters on this server and never had they had this problem. Something is broken.

Sorry, but I had to laugh at this. Not only are you level 5, but you're level 5 twinked with a kunark-era sebs weapon. And you think it's odd that you have such low weapon skill?

I'd like to inform you that not only are you killing a mob faster with higher damage than most level 5's have (3-5 average), meaning fewer hits as it is, but you're doing it with less weapon swings (higher delay from 2hb).

That'd almost be comparable to me crying about defense at level 5 when I was wearing a 25 point damage shield the entire time.

Bohab
06-04-2012, 09:57 AM
Sorry, but I had to laugh at this. Not only are you level 5, but you're level 5 twinked with a kunark-era sebs weapon. And you think it's odd that you have such low weapon skill?

I'd like to inform you that not only are you killing a mob faster with higher damage than most level 5's have (3-5 average), meaning fewer hits as it is, but you're doing it with less weapon swings (higher delay from 2hb).

That'd almost be comparable to me crying about defense at level 5 when I was wearing a 25 point damage shield the entire time.

That's fine. And that I completely understand. But again I've twinked many characters and never had an issue with weaponskill skilling up? If I swap to a cracked staff, won't make a lick of difference.

Bardalicious
06-04-2012, 10:04 AM
If I swap to a cracked staff, won't make a lick of difference.

Apparently you didn't understand the contents of my post.

A cracked staff has what... 5 damage?

And a lower albeit negligible delay difference.

Your weapon has damage over what, 20? (Capped at level 5, I know)

Meaning it's taking you FAR LONGER to kill a mob with a cracked staff than a face grinder. Meaning you're swinging at it far many more times. Meaning you're getting far many more chances at a weapon skill up.

Bohab
06-04-2012, 10:07 AM
Apparently you didn't understand the contents of my post.

A cracked staff has what... 5 damage?

And a lower albeit negligible delay difference.

Your weapon has damage over what, 20? (Capped at level 5, I know)

Meaning it's taking you FAR LONGER to kill a mob with a cracked staff than a face grinder. Meaning you're swinging at it far many more times. Meaning you're getting far many more chances at a weapon skill up.

Nah... I completely understood you which is why I mentioned the cracked staff. But you ignore me when I say I've done this before with other characters. Never have I had an issue gaining skill.

Danth
06-04-2012, 10:16 AM
Oh really? So it's not just because people complain that come from fast games or other servers? It's because after all this time of these servers running they just now realized that is a problem. You must be right.

My my, a bit aggressive, are we?

Your claims have no merit. The problem has not existed since the server opened; rather the issue cropped up after the April 22 patch. Skillups were formerly significantly too fast and the last patch seems to have tuned things a little too far in the other direction.

Danth

Tr0llb0rn
06-04-2012, 11:04 AM
Desperatly need the servers to be patched..... so many fixes are waiting to go in.....

And unlock plane of sky on Red, we waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overdue.

Slave
06-04-2012, 12:52 PM
Skillups were formerly significantly too fast and the last patch seems to have tuned things a little too far in the other direction.


I find no evidence to support your claim that skillups were too fast. They seemed to be right in line with Classic skill gain rates.

Brimacombe
06-05-2012, 01:17 AM
I used to use a 1HS and got it to the 90s in fairly short order. Around April I switched to 1HB and have been at 44 for a significant time. I use my weapon a lot while farming to conserve mana, but this has proven impossible.
I used a 1hs for about two months and 1hb for about 3 months, with much more meleeing in the lest few months.
I know the plural of anecdote is not data, but this is my experience.

-Brimacombe

Ogre
06-05-2012, 01:39 AM
@Rayzn/Bardalicious: Somehow I dont remember when I played classic on live having ONLY used 1HB weapons and being level 14 with my Dual Wield and other skills progressing normally at 70 or whatever while my 1HB is stuck at 20 and rarer than a Raster spawn to get skill-ups.

There is definitely something wrong here I'm sorry.

getsome
06-05-2012, 03:02 AM
WINTER IS COMING ! !

Glorindale
06-05-2012, 03:41 AM
HAHAHAHA I called it level 5 complaining about his skill levels!

I call you retard like bird with two faces

Acrux Bcrux
06-05-2012, 09:19 AM
just leveled my archery from about 40 - 160 in the last week, it was slow but not OMG I WANNA CRY AND QUIT slow.... Quitcha bitchin and go play the game

Jellybelly
06-05-2012, 09:37 AM
My skills are keeping up with my level just like they did on live. I picked up at 2hb around lvl 7 so catching up those skills were a pain but didn't seem any worse than normal. I played WoW for the las 6 years, so some aspects of Eq seemed extra difficult after coming back but I welcome the challenge compared to wows leveling process.

PsychoTass
06-05-2012, 09:41 AM
just leveled my archery from about 40 - 160 in the last week, it was slow but not OMG I WANNA CRY AND QUIT slow.... Quitcha bitchin and go play the game

instead of attacking people like a this from behind your keyboard/monitor, if you don't have anything positive to add to the post, don't post.

so tired of all the forum warriors on here attempting to ruin it for everyone else. if you want to act like this go back to that blizzard game.

Bill Tetley
06-05-2012, 09:50 AM
My skills are keeping up with my level just like they did on live. I picked up at 2hb around lvl 7 so catching up those skills were a pain but didn't seem any worse than normal. I played WoW for the las 6 years, so some aspects of Eq seemed extra difficult after coming back but I welcome the challenge compared to wows leveling process.

Nobody is comparing anything to WoW, most of us never played that game. What we are comparing is the incredible difference in the amount of time it takes weapons to skill up now compared to post April's patch. Most of us have several level 46+ characters on this server for the last few years... and we know something drastically changed last patch. So again we do not complain that EQ is too hard, we note that something broke last patch and the skill ups are coming in much, much slower even when compared to Kunark era on live.

Jellybelly
06-05-2012, 10:38 AM
Nobody is comparing anything to WoW, most of us never played that game. What we are comparing is the incredible difference in the amount of time it takes weapons to skill up now compared to post April's patch. Most of us have several level 46+ characters on this server for the last few years... and we know something drastically changed last patch. So again we do not complain that EQ is too hard, we note that something broke last patch and the skill ups are coming in much, much slower even when compared to Kunark era on live.

I wasn't trying to imply that people thought it was too hard. I was just sharing my thought on the difference I felt when coming here ~ 8 months ago after playing WoW so long. I personally didn't notice a difference in skill ups but maybe that is because I took a break before the patch and no longer have my original character and I rerolled after patch. Sorry if I came off as arrogant with my post.

tekniq
06-05-2012, 10:56 AM
i haven't logged on in a while...i'm waiting until the next patch so my lvl 35 monk can rock his epic =)

hdawg06
06-05-2012, 01:46 PM
The patching issue is driving away more people. The game has lost almost 100 people during prime time play in just the last month. Now it is around 325-375.

fadetree
06-05-2012, 04:04 PM
How did you get them to report the reason they left to you?

Aceofcups
06-06-2012, 08:48 PM
Personally i recently started on P1999, wanting to play classic, after other games were lacking for me.

I ended up rolling a warrior, on top of that ikky. I ended up using the starter ikky warrior weapon which was something around 9/46. Although i admit weapon skill-ups came slow. I managed fine with a very slow 1 hander.

I'm now in my upper 20's and have obtained 2 lariets and a 2hander. i manage to keep my piercing/1hs/2hs all near max for my level.

What im saying is, its not that big of a deal. EQ wasn't ment to be easy; so what, its a little harder, that's like complaining about a new dent in a totaled car. If slow skill ups are causing you to quit, go play an easy solo class by yourself or leave.

Grimmly Fireforge
06-06-2012, 10:55 PM
Personally i recently started on P1999, wanting to play classic, after other games were lacking for me.

I ended up rolling a warrior, on top of that ikky. I ended up using the starter ikky warrior weapon which was something around 9/46. Although i admit weapon skill-ups came slow. I managed fine with a very slow 1 hander.

I'm now in my upper 20's and have obtained 2 lariets and a 2hander. i manage to keep my piercing/1hs/2hs all near max for my level.

What im saying is, its not that big of a deal. EQ wasn't ment to be easy; so what, its a little harder, that's like complaining about a new dent in a totaled car. If slow skill ups are causing you to quit, go play an easy solo class by yourself or leave.

I'm sorry that this is so difficult for you to understand.

Weapon-skills, as they are right now, have been acknowledged as a bug by the development staff. It's not a matter of "EQ is hard get over it." It's. A. Bug. The staff of the server says it's not working as intended.

And it's already been fixed. At this point, all we are asking is when they will patch to implement the fix onto the server.

I hope that this won't be so difficult for you to understand now.

Aceofcups
06-06-2012, 11:29 PM
I understand that its a bug, and there is already a fix that has yet to be implemented, but as people said above, the staff isn't paid, so they shouldn't need to jump to fix anything on your beck and call. What am saying is its not as groundbreaking as people say, infact its pretty easy to deal with.

Grimmly Fireforge
06-07-2012, 12:29 AM
I understand that its a bug, and there is already a fix that has yet to be implemented, but as people said above, the staff isn't paid, so they shouldn't need to jump to fix anything on your beck and call. What am saying is its not as groundbreaking as people say, infact its pretty easy to deal with.

Yeah, except nobody is doing that. Calm your tits.

manwithaplan11
06-07-2012, 12:46 AM
Anyways, I just want to say again that the weapon-skill bug makes it CRIPPLINGLY impossible to play a melee class on Blue 99. This has prevented me and many others from playing.

Lol. Seriously?

fouts85
06-07-2012, 12:50 AM
Lol. Seriously?

Ya bus it sucks on my shaman and monk...:mad:

webrunner5
06-07-2012, 08:39 AM
Ya bus it sucks on my shaman and monk...:mad:

What he said.

HeallunRumblebelly
06-07-2012, 03:19 PM
My my, a bit aggressive, are we?

Your claims have no merit. The problem has not existed since the server opened; rather the issue cropped up after the April 22 patch. Skillups were formerly significantly too fast and the last patch seems to have tuned things a little too far in the other direction.

Danth

Danth, you comin back to p99? :3 Or still waiting on velious? The erotic fanfic...is prepared :3 Just need a delivery device!

Danth
06-07-2012, 03:51 PM
you comin back to p99?

I never left. My gameplay time has been limited as of late, but I'm still on here. I haven't used my namesake character lately owing to having completed all the goals I had for it.

Danth

Nimoorhs
06-07-2012, 04:17 PM
instead of attacking people like a this from behind your keyboard/monitor, if you don't have anything positive to add to the post, don't post.

so tired of all the forum warriors on here attempting to ruin it for everyone else. if you want to act like this go back to that blizzard game.

This was positive, people here bitch more than my little sister.

I especially like your post! wrought with negativity, and an obvious attack from behind your 'keyboard/monitor. a slight touch of irony, adds to this hypocritical sentiment the only thing it was lacking. you sir are a true forum warrior

PsychoTass
06-07-2012, 05:09 PM
Thank you for your well thought out, highly informative response. Please, tell me more.

senna
06-10-2012, 12:59 AM
using nothing but 2hb all night on my new monk and I only went up to skill lvl 3

amazing

phobus
06-10-2012, 11:00 PM
What are your offense and defense skills like?

I rolled another alt the other day, and while I can at least put training points into my weapon skills to bring them up, I can't do that for offense/defense, which are both pitifully low.

Ephirith
06-10-2012, 11:34 PM
Could have sworn weapon skills have been slow like that the entire time ive been on p99

Malimus
06-10-2012, 11:52 PM
Dunno if its been said or its known by all but for melee skill ups you will get the very best results fighting Light blue con mobs. Dark blue cons will give good gains as well just not as often as LB cons. Hope that helps some people.

Bohab
06-11-2012, 04:35 PM
I have played a rogue to 58, a warrior to 55 and a necro to 52 on this server. I never once had to complain about the weaponskill skill ups. They were always everquest1 slow but were manageable. On all my characters I made an (OCD) point to get each and every weaponskill capped for the level of the character.

I started a new Paladin which is still currently level 5... this means 1hb 2hb 1hs 2hs (skipping piercing) should be at a skill of 30 before I level to 6. So far I have had to kill this character back down to the start of level 5 a total of 6 times. Still my weaponskills are all only up to 23 skill... throwing in the towel on this server for now till this is patched.

Slycen
06-11-2012, 05:19 PM
Can I have your toons?

Bohab
06-12-2012, 09:02 AM
for now till this is patched.


Can I have your toons?


No.

jdklaw
06-13-2012, 03:35 AM
y was my post deleted????

LOL