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Charball
05-25-2012, 11:53 AM
I know that usually asking for this type of thing is frowned upon but I would like to make a suggestion. Lately (I'm assuming its because of D3) server population has been pretty dismal. Maybe a little xp bonus would be a nice incentive to bring some people back from Diablo 3. Nothing huge, like 25% or something but i think it would help out a lot. I love this server but like i said its been pretty empty lately. I know we had a bonus when Sony servers went down and for christmas, one right now would hopefully bring back some of the population. Just a thought, happy hunting!

Destan
05-25-2012, 11:59 AM
We could probably do a 900% XP bonus and we wouldn't see much change. Diablo has been out for 10 days, give it some time...most people are just beating the first difficulty or two (depending on whether they are employed or not). 13 years later we are all still coming back to play this game on an emulated server, so there is no need to rent that van, stock up on candy, and try to lure people in just yet.

Besides, it sets a bad precedent. We'll have some other major games coming out soon too, I don't really want to ratchet up the XP every time some of the population wants to take a break. Think of this as the perfect time to try out some of those contested camps that you could never seem to get before.

Maze
05-25-2012, 12:12 PM
We could probably do a 900% XP bonus and we wouldn't see much change. Diablo has been out for 10 days, give it some time...most people are just beating the first difficulty or two (depending on whether they are employed or not). 13 years later we are all still coming back to play this game on an emulated server, so there is no need to rent that van, stock up on candy, and try to lure people in just yet.

Besides, it sets a bad precedent. We'll have some other major games coming out soon too, I don't really want to ratchet up the XP every time some of the population wants to take a break. Think of this as the perfect time to try out some of those contested camps that you could never seem to get before.

What he said, trust me they will be back. D3 does not have much meaningful replayability.

Charball
05-25-2012, 12:28 PM
Yea that sounds good to me. I'll just wait it out, I guess I'm just hating on all the people with D3 and I can't afford it =(

Maze
05-25-2012, 12:34 PM
Ur not missing much man, its good for a couple days but thats about it.

Holey
05-25-2012, 12:40 PM
Ur not missing much man, its good for a couple days but thats about it.

Mystro
05-25-2012, 12:45 PM
Heh, server pop has been on a steady decline with eqmac/D3.. And I wouldn't expect to see it change anytime soon. Least until velious.

Massive Marc
05-25-2012, 01:12 PM
It has very little to do with D3/Summer and more to do with locked down content and lack of raiding/competition.

Wolfgang
05-25-2012, 01:54 PM
lol raiding content.

inyane
05-25-2012, 02:52 PM
yeah, this is unlikely to change before velious comes out.

time to enable global /ooc again? population numbers are pretty dismal, specially during off hours

Bill Tetley
05-25-2012, 03:04 PM
There are also some lame bugs keeping players from starting new characters on this server which is not helping the population. Fixes are pending for the next patch but they wait 2 months or so to release the patch for whatever reason. Kinda silly to wait that long to fix things when the server population is really suffering.

Verden
05-26-2012, 04:27 AM
Global /ooc would be really useful, but have it enable on a trigger when the population count falls to a certain number so it would still be useful but not annoying(if 300+ players had access to global chat, it could get pretty obnoxious).

I seem to remember there being player creatable chat channels as well, when was that feature implemented?

Slave
05-26-2012, 04:30 AM
I seem to remember there being player creatable chat channels as well, when was that feature implemented?

Post-Velious and so it will never be implemented here.

Add 1 more for xp bonus. Nothing wrong with hitting your most dedicated players with a little present every now and then.

batkiller
05-26-2012, 06:32 AM
population numbers are pretty dismal, specially during off hours

I often play during off hours because I am in Europe, and often the P99 server is the second lowest population server in the list, below that Grand creation and Hidden Forest or whatever its called. The lowest being P99 red.

Kinda sad to see. Besides some little boosts or whatever, I think it might be a good idea to do a player drive to find new people. Get everyone involved and have everyone post about the server and how much they love it, on various websites. Maybe there could be a reward for whoever brings in the most people or something. Or just encourage everyone to do it for the sake of the server.

Danth
05-26-2012, 08:05 AM
I often play during off hours because I am in Europe, and often the P99 server is the second lowest population server in the list, below that Grand creation and Hidden Forest or whatever its called. The lowest being P99 red.

Keep in mind that the server list reports clients logged in, not unique users. The other servers you mention permit a single user to log in multiple clients, this artificially inflating their numbers.

I do not see a need for temporary experience bonuses and don't understand why a player who enjoys classic-EQ would want them. I don't necessarily oppose the notion, but neither do I support it. Consider me neutral, but biased towards opposition. Suggestions like this, once implemented, have an annoying way of getting folks addicted to them and those folks end up begging for it more and more often.

The experience system will be changing at some point post-Velious, anyway, as class penalties are due to be removed and race penalties are due to become self-only. This will affect group leveling as those Bards and Paladins and Monks and whatnot won't be reducing their group's average anymore.

We had global OOC once, and it was a mess.

Instead of experience modifiers, I submit that the community has the best means of encouraging grouping during off-peak hours. Specific zones to head to need to be agreed upon, instead of spreading out the population across several different zones (If you're in the teens, you'll see a few people in Oasis, a few in Unrest, perhaps a few in Upper Guk, maybe a few in the plains, and lack of critical mass anywhere in particular to support reliable grouping.) Batkiller's suggestion about getting the word out to interested parties also bears merit.

Velious will spike the population strongly upward for a period of time, but it will not be a permanent fix. Expect, instead, a strong inital outpouring followed by a gradual drop-off. I figure the project operators expected as such.

Danth

Vostok
05-26-2012, 04:21 PM
At this rate there won't be anyone left for velious to come out for. With a couple of major games coming out. A general lack of info on velious progress and not to much is heard from gms ( unless I am just missing something)

I hate to see this kind of decrease

Emphase
05-26-2012, 06:23 PM
I haven't logged into p1999 in over a year. the past few months i've been trying to decide which game i'm going to spend my time on, and settled for diablo 3. needless to say...its only been out 2 weeks and I'm sick of it. It really doesn't live up to diablo 2 IMO. So I decided to come back to p1999, just installed and logged in. =]

ps: I'm a lvl 35 monk looking for a guild or some people to play with since I know no one now

batkiller
05-27-2012, 05:13 PM
FoH would be a great place to post, it's such a busy place. I think that might be where I heard about the game too. I would post but sadly they require you to pay for a membership these days, and there is no way in hell I would pay to post on that cesspool :P But if someone already has an account there, then keeping the P99 thread alive would be good. It's not even on the main page anymore.

It would be nice if people talked about the positive things on there. The only time I saw a flurry of discussion was when people were going ape about the server's corruption, which from my newbies point of view at least, is nowhere to be seen. Not saying it doesn't exist... I'm just saying that for the more casual people like me who don't care about big guild drama, I can log in and play good ole EQ like the good old days, and have a lot of fun.

Woobi
05-27-2012, 09:10 PM
Specific zones to head to need to be agreed upon, instead of spreading out the population across several different zones (If you're in the teens, you'll see a few people in Oasis, a few in Unrest, perhaps a few in Upper Guk, maybe a few in the plains, and lack of critical mass anywhere in particular to support reliable grouping.)

Danth


^^^ +1

maahes
05-29-2012, 10:26 AM
With the server population as low as it currently is, an xp bonus weekend of 50% + would cause only good things for the server. It is summer.....I'd rather be outside than logged into EQ, but if there was a bonus weekend I would make time to do some grinding, maybe even a binge one night. And since I've been on a break for a few months, it might be just enough time for the that sweet sweet xp to getting my veins. And once its in my veins its no long just a want, its a need.

Charball
05-30-2012, 11:41 PM
Ya know I was thinking about it and I do remember getting an exp bonus for Christmas and while the Sony servers were down. I think something like that again would really help out

webrunner5
05-31-2012, 05:42 AM
There is no long term answer to keeping this server alive. It is doomed to a slow long term death. Once every one gets really high level and has a alt or two pretty high what else you going to do?

You could get into raiding but unless you are in TMO all you are going to get is crumbs. And TMO is a total commitment if you want good gear. Most people are not into the batphone crap. So that is out.

I am sure it will pick up with Velious. But after awhile it will drop off again. It will be just like Red. On lifesupport. I think a lot of us have figured out we have been playing this game WAY TOO LONG. Like 12 or 13 years!! I just can't get that excited too much anymore. Velious will help though for a little while.

In reality I think I need to just get a real life lol and go out under a nice shade tree and read a book. Turn off my computer and be happy. Maybe its time?

HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-31-2012, 06:11 AM
A massive problem that is continually ignored is that entire guilds were effectively ignored off the server by gm/guides not enforcing bans where they are clearly stated that they should be dealt out on the front page's rules that every player accepted.

Meanwhile TMO cheated, trained, griefed, and made the end game, and subsequently the server, completely disgustingly unplayable for quite possibly 100+ people.

A lot of people left because of just that. It was definitely not experience rates.

Autotune
05-31-2012, 06:32 AM
A massive problem that is continually ignored is that entire guilds were effectively ignored off the server by gm/guides not enforcing bans where they are clearly stated that they should be dealt out on the front page's rules that every player accepted.

Meanwhile TMO cheated, trained, griefed, and made the end game, and subsequently the server, completely disgustingly unplayable for quite possibly 100+ people.

A lot of people left because of just that. It was definitely not experience rates.

"a lot of people left because 1 guild did shit better than the others and kept fighting propaganda with propaganda and came out on top"

Harrison so butt-sore.

HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-31-2012, 06:35 AM
You can lie about exploiting all you want to yourself but, no one is buying it but you and your guild.

The simple fact of the matter is that your guild ruined a fun server for hundreds of players through training, cheating, and creating an unsportsmanlike atmosphere devoid of legitimate competition.

Pan
05-31-2012, 11:35 PM
Someone on fark.com posted the link to p1999. I had no idea that it existed until then.

That's what got me here (and a couple of others whom I told about it).

Lagaidh
06-02-2012, 12:57 AM
I mentioned p99 in a FARK thread a few days ago too =)

It was funny. There was a thread about the latest #2 in Al Qaeda having been killed and the headline joked that his spawn was camped. This turned the thread into a partial nostalgia fest of some obvious old schoolers. You can almost smell that palpable nostalgia of the true old schoolers.

I hope they show up here.

Grimmly Fireforge
06-02-2012, 01:49 PM
There are also some lame bugs keeping players from starting new characters on this server which is not helping the population. Fixes are pending for the next patch but they wait 2 months or so to release the patch for whatever reason. Kinda silly to wait that long to fix things when the server population is really suffering.

HarrisonIsStillPosting
06-03-2012, 02:52 AM
Stop trying to create halfling rangers, etc. they are not classic, and aren't allowed. It isn't a bug.

EQtrader
06-03-2012, 03:01 AM
/who all harrison

0 players online

HarrisonIsStillPosting
06-03-2012, 03:08 AM
Don't troll a legitimate discussion because you're butthurt about losing a pvp server.

sedrie.bellamie
06-03-2012, 07:15 PM
You can lie about exploiting all you want to yourself but, no one is buying it but you and your guild.

The simple fact of the matter is that your guild ruined a fun server for hundreds of players through training, cheating, and creating an unsportsmanlike atmosphere devoid of legitimate competition.

1) Training -- IB/VD would agro CT everytime TMO would have larger numbers than them starting DT cycles constantly to try and slow TMO down. That was fun for everyone?

2) Cheating -- VD would memblur raid targets, even there own, which was/is a borken game mechanic

3) Unsportsmanlike atmosphere -- I believe it was IB whom forced the issue of variance b/c TMO rules lawyered them with things like FTE and 15 on the spawn. Cutting off your nose to spit your face just lead to TMO tracking every raid target, being able to respond to any raid target super quickly, and learning how to down raid targets without as much hassle as it seemed IB/VD went throu on those same targets.

bakkily
06-03-2012, 07:16 PM
well because of playing the dh in d3 made me want to play my ranger, been on d3 a week with 23 hours logged and lvl 40, but the game sure gets tough after act 1 of nightmare

HeallunRumblebelly
06-03-2012, 08:59 PM
Keep in mind that the server list reports clients logged in, not unique users. The other servers you mention permit a single user to log in multiple clients, this artificially inflating their numbers.

I do not see a need for temporary experience bonuses and don't understand why a player who enjoys classic-EQ would want them. I don't necessarily oppose the notion, but neither do I support it. Consider me neutral, but biased towards opposition. Suggestions like this, once implemented, have an annoying way of getting folks addicted to them and those folks end up begging for it more and more often.

The experience system will be changing at some point post-Velious, anyway, as class penalties are due to be removed and race penalties are due to become self-only. This will affect group leveling as those Bards and Paladins and Monks and whatnot won't be reducing their group's average anymore.

We had global OOC once, and it was a mess.

Instead of experience modifiers, I submit that the community has the best means of encouraging grouping during off-peak hours. Specific zones to head to need to be agreed upon, instead of spreading out the population across several different zones (If you're in the teens, you'll see a few people in Oasis, a few in Unrest, perhaps a few in Upper Guk, maybe a few in the plains, and lack of critical mass anywhere in particular to support reliable grouping.) Batkiller's suggestion about getting the word out to interested parties also bears merit.

Velious will spike the population strongly upward for a period of time, but it will not be a permanent fix. Expect, instead, a strong inital outpouring followed by a gradual drop-off. I figure the project operators expected as such.

Danth

Motherfuckin Danth :3 You livin the dream now? Lara doin better?